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    Posted: January 07 2023 at 7:19pm
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I have a opportunity to purchase 65 rounds with stripper clips and a canvas carrying bag

1. Who made GB head stamped ammo ?
2. Is it corrosive ?
3. He said make offer ‘ What is a good idea on its value?
Thank you for your advice 

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Jeff. 


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G, GB or GBF
Greenwood and Batley, Leeds, UK. This company manufactured Ammunition from an early stage, finally ceasing production in the late 1950s. They had a filling factory at Abbey Wood and later during the 1939-45 war a filling factory at Farnham. The headstamp code G, denoting manufacturer, should not be confused with G as in GIV indicating a tracer cartridge. During WW1 Greenwood & Batley are known to have produced in excess of 705 million .303 Mk 7 cartridges. They are known to have manufactured .303 cartridges in... Ball, Black powder Mk 2
Ball, Cordite Mks 2, 4, 5, 6 and 7
Ball, Match
Ball, Nitro-cellulose Mk 7Z
Bulleted Blank Mk 6
Drill, D Mk 6, D Mk 9
Dummy, Drill Mk 5
Proof OSP

Not loaded correctly in the strippers, but they are worth something as well; as is the bandolier.  Can't tell your if the primers are corrosive, but it appears relatively common.  Are you going to buy it to shoot or collect?  I's offer $75 for shooting.  The strippers and pouch are reuseable but the cases are not reloadable.

Another thread - $0.80/round in 2013.

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Originally posted by Stumpkiller Stumpkiller wrote:

G, GB or GBF
Greenwood and Batley, Leeds, UK. This company manufactured Ammunition from an early stage, finally ceasing production in the late 1950s. They had a filling factory at Abbey Wood and later during the 1939-45 war a filling factory at Farnham. The headstamp code G, denoting manufacturer, should not be confused with G as in GIV indicating a tracer cartridge. During WW1 Greenwood & Batley are known to have produced in excess of 705 million .303 Mk 7 cartridges. They are known to have manufactured .303 cartridges in... Ball, Black powder Mk 2
Ball, Cordite Mks 2, 4, 5, 6 and 7
Ball, Match
Ball, Nitro-cellulose Mk 7Z
Bulleted Blank Mk 6
Drill, D Mk 6, D Mk 9
Dummy, Drill Mk 5
Proof OSP

Not loaded correctly in the strippers, but they are worth something as well; as is the bandolier.  Can't tell your if the primers are corrosive, but it appears relatively common.  Are you going to buy it to shoot or collect?  I's offer $75 for shooting.  The strippers and pouch are reuseable but the cases are not reloadable.


Thank you Charlie for the information 
So as I understand your post the cases are Beardan primed correct?
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Berdan primed is what I found.  Never played with any GB in person so it is interweb trustable info.

I have gone through many "Spam cans" of 7.62 x 54R Czech and Chinese ammo with corrosive priming and what I do is wipe the bore with a patch soaked in Parson's Sudsy Ammonia as soon as I can after shooting. But these through a Russian/Tula M91/30 and a Finnish/Sako M-39 that were each under $100 when I bought them, so they are not "safe queens" but shooters.
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Ammo is corrosive - you don’t need to use Ammonia - just boiling hot water is all that is needed to flush the corrosive salts out then follow by a normal cleaning 
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Berdan primer and Cordite loaded.  You can tell this from the size of the primer.  The “7” stamp on the case head indicates Cordite load (7z is a NC powder load). 

Best assume the primer is corrosive if you intend to shoot it. Don’t delay flushing the bore out with water, do it the same day you shoot it. I use a funnel with a suitable size plastic hose attached and inserted in the chamber, pour lots of hot water down the bore, then dry that out with flannel patches, then clean with powder solvent (such as Hoppes 9) twice a day over the next few days.  The salts get ironed into micro cracks in the bore surface and can be covered over by carbon and copper fouling.

Personally, I’d look for modern ammo, like PPU, or load your own. 




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 A good recent example here was an opened crate of DIZ `45 and some loose a total of 328 rounds just sold for $600. That`s $1.89/round, so cheaper than most modern commercial stuff.
 When people buy outrageously over priced goods it sets a precedent that usually never goes down.
 The current lee enfield rage is exactly whats causing this, new to the rage will pay what ever is offered without considering whats fair and whats not, whats gold and whats fools gold.
 The enfield rage would for all accounts be a form or artificial inflation, inflation takes but never gives back.

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Gentlemen 
Thank you for your post and links and the knowledge on this ammunition 
As most of you know my only Enfield is a sniper model so I don’t want to shoot these rounds thru it 
However I plan on getting them and saving them with the rifle.
  I have been thinking about pulling bullets from the rounds that are not in the canvas cloth carrier. 
And reuse them in my reloadable brass.
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You may find that a little hard to do. Those crimps are sometimes sealed too.Angry
The trick is to set up a bullet seating die to firmly contact the nose of the projectile, then go i 1/8th of a turn.
Run them all through it, it forces the seal to break!
Then decap as normally.Wink

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