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that is correct - except in a couple rare early instances , i think it was the vickers made that had the same smooth scales , but then those are so rare that we seldome see them and i doubt many got into the supply lines , i ve only seen one , 
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Ok NOW I unnerstann.
The P-14 versions had "lines, or grooves" cut across the Wood scales to identify them a being for the different muzzle size & shape of the P-14 from the SMLE which they wouldn't fit although looking similar at a glance.
like this:
https://militaria.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/4-16R-2-scaled.jpg
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Originally posted by Shamu Shamu wrote:

I don't understand the question, sorry. What are you looking for?
The original question was asked if a 1907 Pattern bayonet would fit a No4Mk1.
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I don't understand the question, sorry. What are you looking for?
Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)
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I thought this was a new thread, my bad.
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This is a 1907 pattern bayonet for the smle number 1 Lee Enfields, it fits all the variations up to the Number 1 mark lll*, unfortunately not for the number 4. It was made by Wilkinson, datestamped 8/ 1917. I have a similar bayonet made by Sanderson datestamped 3/1917.
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the 26 looks like a refurb date , thinking the clearing hoole was added as the early ones lacked that ,the scabbard is the early one with the almond shaped stup the later had the round button , very common for WWI bayonets , it looks a very nice set from the photos , not sure on the $300 - that depends a lot on current markets , ive not been in the buying mode for quite a while but was a tad high back when i was , yet finding a complete blade scabbard and frog in that condition could be a challenge 
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Thank you for the replies 
Since this won’t fit my current Enfield sniper I have told the owner that I will pass hopefully it goes to someone who can use it
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I would not pay that much for that bayonet - more in the realm of the MOLE, Vickers, early RFI or Remington for that price. But some collect them based on being unit marked. 

Oh and you are welcome - and the above is just my opinion.

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Originally posted by shiloh shiloh wrote:

Its an interesting bayonet, looks to have had the original makers mark scrubbed then Wilkinson over stamped during a refurb in Aug 1917.
OTC is Officer Training Corps
BDS would be the college or university, the numbers probably its rack number.
From what I gather definitely a keeper, rare to find an OTC bayonet
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It kinda looks like (Chapman scrubbed) to my poor eyesight.
A rear photo of the (cross guard,quillon) would be interesting if possible.
$300.00 with the scabbard & frog not unreasonable IMO.
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Its an interesting bayonet, looks to have had the original makers mark scrubbed then Wilkinson over stamped during a refurb in Aug 1917.
OTC is Officer Training Corps
BDS would be the college or university, the numbers probably its rack number.
From what I gather definitely a keeper, rare to find an OTC bayonet
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Originally posted by The Apprentice The Apprentice wrote:

Thank you Thad for your reply. it helped me that’s for sure.


Thank you Mike for your post if I remember correctly one of your bayonets is now mine 😊
However I appreciate the pictures & your post   😉


Is that 16” worth $300 ? What is the demand on a Number 1 Mark III.  ?
More commonly encountered Pattern 1907 without the hooked lower quillon.

British makers include the Royal Small Arms Factory, Enfield; and the following British government contractors:

—James A. Chapman
—Remington Arms Co. (USA contractor)
—Robert Mole & Sons
—Sanderson Bros. & Newbould Ltd.
—Vickers Ltd.
—Wilkinson Sword Co.

I know of one that has been sitting in a glass case for at least 5 years now with a $225.00 price tag on it and it has yet to sell but, out here in Phoenix Arizona,  it's not going to...

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Thank you Thad for your reply. it helped me that’s for sure.


Thank you Mike for your post if I remember correctly one of your bayonets is now mine 😊
However I appreciate the pictures & your post   😉


Is that 16” worth $300 ? What is the demand on a Number 1 Mark III.  ?
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While this No7 MkIL bayonet was intended for use with the MkV Sten Submachine Gun, it will also fit the the No4Mk1 Enfield rifle.
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From top to bottom:
No4 MkII 
No4 MkII*
No4 MkIII 
No9 MkI P.O.F.
No9 MkI South African Armscor
These are all designed for the No4Mk1 Enfield rifle...
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Originally posted by The Apprentice The Apprentice wrote:

Here are all the various No4 spike and No9 blade bayonets that fit on your rifle. As an added bonus the No7MkI L blade bayonet with the swiveling pommel will also fit your rifle...
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