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    Posted: September 03 2020 at 11:33pm
Hey everyone, new around here from SC.  Just got my first one a couple days ago, a no1mkiii.  Been picking up the Garands, 1903s, Mosins, Mausers, etc for a while, know almost nothing about Enfields.  The more I read the more I can't stop thinking about getting more.  Looking forward to learning!

Hope you don't mind me asking my first question here.  My No1 Mkiii is matching receiver, barrel, nose piece, and rear sight.  Nothing else matches.  I'd like to shoot it to confirm, but my suspicion is I may need a new barrel.  My question is, is it better I just keep the matching receiver/barrel/rear sight/nose piece together and look for another shooter rifle, or does it matter much?  It's a 1939 BSA stamped rifle if that matters any.  Thanks in advance for any insights!




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Welcome from Phoenix Arizona. 
What do you mean by,"nothing else matches." Did it have all the wood pieces with it when you purchased it? What is your suspicion that make you think it needs the barrel replaced?
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Originally posted by Goosic Goosic wrote:

Welcome from Phoenix Arizona. 
What do you mean by,"nothing else matches." Did it have all the wood pieces with it when you purchased it? What is your suspicion that make you think it needs the barrel replaced?

Hey sorry I mean nothing else other than parts listed is serialized to match such as the bolt.  It was a complete rifle with all parts.  The barrel needing replacing is just my guess at first look.  I plan to bore scope it to see a bit closer but what rifling is left looks pretty smooth, and the rifle swallows a round at the muzzle.  I don't see anything that would leave me to believe the rifle wouldn't shoot, but the accuracy would be the question.

I just wasn't sure if taking on a barrel replacement on a rifle with some serialized matching parts would be frowned upon vs just getting another rifle as a shooter.
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Do a real good bore clean first before assuming anything,especially with the Enfield. You would be amazed at how well they shoot even with a slightly worn bore. The rounded end at the muzzle is indicative of the No1Mk111. My opinion on barrel replacement would have me saying to not attempt it. The rifle is an original BSA with clear markings on the barrel.  Accuracy can only be determined by shooting.  I have said this in an earlier post to another forum member.  If you can place ten rounds inside a 5" circle or the palm of an adult male hand from 100 yards distance, by any shooting position, the rifle is a shooter and good to go.
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welcome , glad you joined us here , 

we often find that a barrel that looks bad is not necessarily bad , clean it , shoot it , clean it again , then check it as goosic suggests , it may be just fine 
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Thanks!  Will clean it well and see how it shoots!
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Welcome from ATL, GA. 

 I agree with the others here, I would not replace the barrel since it is a matching SN with the action body.  Is the bolt not have a serial number?  I’m not that familiar with No. 1 rifles, but in the No. 4, they are numbered on the back edge of the bolt handle, some are done with electric pencil and can be quite faint.  

If you can’t confirm there is a matching serial number on the bolt, best get headspace checked and check for even locking lug contact with the receiver before your shoot the rifle.  It may be a mismatched bolt.









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There should be a matching number on the rear face of the bolt handle.
This is important too because the bolt was individually hand-fitted to the action. If this isn't checked its possible only one of the two locking lugs is bearing, over stressing the other one which can lead to catastrophic failure!


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Originally posted by britrifles britrifles wrote:

Welcome from ATL, GA. 

 I agree with the others here, I would not replace the barrel since it is a matching SN with the action body.  Is the bolt not have a serial number?  I’m not that familiar with No. 1 rifles, but in the No. 4, they are summered on the back edge of the bolt handle, some are done with electric pencil and can be quite faint.  

If you can’t confirm there is a matching serial number on the bolt, best get headspace checked and check for even locking lug contact with the receiver before your shoot the rifle.  It may be a mismatched bolt.

Good call on the head spacing everyone.  Will for sure check that.

Sadly the bolt is not matching, its marked well enough to know that for sure.  Here is an image of the bolt and the two other serialized pieces.



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never-ever , assume always and never with enfields across the board , you can always learn something new as i do every day , here 
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