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    Posted: March 01 2021 at 11:47am
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I just had a Jungle Carbine come in a few days ago that I’ve brought up in other posts. The rifle itself required a lot of cleaning and I suspect it hasn’t been completely apart since it came out of the factory. The rifle is currently sitting home now but I noticed when I was cleaning that the barrel seems to wiggle quite a bit. The draws aren’t damaged and the action screw is snug with the appropriate pillar.  I also noticed the previous owner place some sheeting beneath the forward clamp which I left in there. Is the “barrel play” normal in jungle carbines? 
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Absolutely.
The only contact should be about 1/3 of the circumference about an inch long at the breech end.
It should be "springy", not "floppy" though.
Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)
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Thanks, shamu. Still a lot to learn, appreciate the help 🤙
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If the barrel is “floppy” like you mentioned. Is there a fix for it? The wood is in good shape but I’m unsure if it’s been linseed treated in awhile. Just looking to bring her back into field shape for a brush gun, nothing too crazy - I know it’s unrealistic to expect too much from the older milsurps. I would, however, like to get it shootable. I plan on a range day when I get back. Thoughts? 
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Honestly, before doing anything else I would give that wood a really good drink of linseed oil. They can shrink dramatically over time and the oil does help bring them back somewhat.
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That would depend on why exactly it was floppy.
The Enfield action is secured to the wood with basically one big bolt, the one just in front of the magazine. Then the rear is held by the rear trigger guard screw.
Inside the main bolt there should be a "sleeve" hidden inside the wood, it function is to allow some limited crush to be applied to the wood securing everything.
If that the wrong size (they are individually fitted) or the wood in that area is damaged internally the clamping action is lost
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Shamu, 

I assume that’s the pillar I keep hearing about. When I’m back home, I planned on taking it apart anyways for linseed treatments so I’ll open it up and take photos of my find. As I mentioned, I know the draws look good, still feels snug in the back. Is there a way to post videos in these chat forums?
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AFAIK only by linking to something like U-tube, or Imjur & hosting on there.
This is a drawing of a No1 MkIII, but the bolt, washer, pillar & so on are the same on the No4 & No5 as is the correct assembly order. The collar is part #30 & the bolt is # 26. There is also a flat washer on the No4& No5.

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Thanks, this is fantastic. Where is the washer supposed to go? In between the action screw and forestock?
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Also, how do I knowing the bushing needs replacement and could I use No4 parts if necessary?
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The washer goes under the floorplate & bears on the pillar.
They're all custom fitted, the idea is they're just a hair shorter than the stock thickness so some limited crush is applied. You'd have to measure the stock thickness at the hole & make a pillar just a scoche shorter.
Yes you could use a No4 one they're identical.
Its a bit more complex than "just whacking 5 thou off" though.
The relevant instructions are on page 3-2-30 & involve making a jig & adjusting it then using the jig to shorten the bushing.
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