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Originally posted by The Armourer The Armourer wrote:

It is a Lee Enfield, model : "Rifle No4 Mk1"

Manufactured (probably) 1943 / 44

Manufactured in the UK by BSA

Does the serial number on the rear of the bolt handle match that on the butt-socket ?

BSA marks their 303 rifles with M47C, this one only has the M
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Originally posted by 303carbine 303carbine wrote:

Originally posted by The Armourer The Armourer wrote:

It is a Lee Enfield, model : "Rifle No4 Mk1"

Manufactured (probably) 1943 / 44

Manufactured in the UK by BSA

Does the serial number on the rear of the bolt handle match that on the butt-socket ?


BSA marks their 303 rifles with M47C, this one only has the M


Not quite correct as they were marked for the factory of production.

I think if you look closely at the markings on the Butt-Socket of the OP's rifle there is the "M" and signs of part of a "4" and some grind marks - I would suggest that this rifle was marked M47? but has been 'scrubbed'.

All factories in the North were prefixed with a "N", those in the Midlands were prefixed by "M" and those in the South prefixed by "S"

M47A     -     B.S.A. Guns, Small Heath, Birmingham     UK
M47B     -     B.S.A. Guns, Redditch, Hereford & Worcester     UK
M47C     -     B.S.A. Guns, Shirley, Birmingham     UK

You may not be aware of the relevance of the 'later' dispersal rifles :

With the invasion scare, the Ministry of Supply ordered BSA to make rifles out of whatever parts it could get together. Hence the rifles were made of mixtures of commercial and military parts, mixed walnut and beech wood (or all-beech), later on No4 butts and firing pin/cocking pieces. A second wave of production in 1945 even used recycled and re-dated receivers.
About the same time the emergency rifle production was started, BSA was ordered to disperse its many Birmingham factories away from the bomb-target central area, and also to increase war production by diluting experienced staff with war staff. BSA was a huge engineering group, and this "Dispersal" programme led to 70 separate factories being set up, moved and/or expanded. Rifle production involved several of these factories (both No1s and No4s), and this type of "all available parts" No1 has become known as a "Dispersal rifle". Technically, even the No4s were Dispersals, as well as motorbikes, bicycles, aircraft parts, machine guns and heavy weaponry...
BSA marked these rifles with just the first "B" of BSA & Co. Presumably this was to dissociate the company from these slightly less-than top quality peacetime rifles!


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