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    Posted: August 02 2018 at 1:33am

Just bought this, It's orginaly a BSA MLE but seems to have been in Australia as it has a heavy Lithgow barrel and has been shortened. It seems this "range pattern MLE" was common in Australia between the wars to enable target rifles based on the MLE and SMLE to compete on equal terms in certain competitions. How it got to Australia and how it got back to the UK is a mystery at the moment. Had a chance to zero it at the weekend on a 50m range, it's accurate and has a very crisp single stage trigger, will need to get onto a longer range though, at 50m the diopter snags the top of the bolt dust cover.
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looks quite nice , based on the target sight im guessing another range rifle , looks to be shortened / barrel replaced ?

i like seeing the original bolt cover and cutoff , and target sling swivel at the front of the trigger guard , im guessing the rear voley might be gone for the target sight but is the front intact ? 
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Yes, the barrel is even shorter than other range pattern MLE's I've seen and the rear volley sight is replaced by the aperture sight. The barrel appears to be 1951 Lithgow H so I assume the original shortened MLE barrel was replaced back then. The single stage trigger is superb.
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Just read a post on MLE cavalry carbines. How long is the wood on a cavalry carbine?
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Just read a post on MLE cavalry carbines. How long is the wood on a cavalry carbine?
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No idea on the carbine forend, but being a BSA, many were sent to NZ from Canada.
If you show us the markings we'll know if it was one of these.  (From NZ to OZ isn't a hard stretch)
 
Odd the barrel is chopped shorter though.  (than standard SMLE" H".)
 
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Well it does look short, even for shortened range pattern MLE. But is that because the wood is longer than usual or the barrel is shorter?
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Here are some more pictures of the MLE showing various stamps and proof marks, I'd be interested in your interpretation of them. The only stamp not shown is the WD Broad Arrow in various places.

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Cavalry carbine barrels were 20-3/4 inches in length, fore stock wood is 25 inches.

New Zealand and Baltic carbine barrels are 21 inches in length, fore stock wood is 22 inches.. 

Range rifle barrels were the same length as their contemporary Sht.LE, 25-1/4 inch.
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Mine does appear to have a short barrel, 23.25 inches from the back edge of the Nocks form, recrowned perhaps? The fore end is 27.5 inches from the front edge of the butt socket.
The forward part of the fore end is 10 inches long from the front edge of the barrel band. Does anyone else have a range pattern MLE to check whether this is standard?
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Haha! Just picked up a CLLE sight protector for a tenner. It's not original I know, but I do think it'll be pretty on this one. 😁
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It will look similar to..

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That's the one!
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I want another one, not shortened this time, the final version of the CLLE with sight protectors and target sights fitted.
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