No1 MkIII Sniper

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   A lot of people on this site have No4 (T) clones. Very nice examples! Does anyone have a No1 MkIII Sniper clone? I admit I know very little in regards to the No1's, but have been reading about them as I'm getting one built for me. Just curious as I have seen pictures of originals. Quite a "Steampunk" scope mount!

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Honkytonk Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: December 30 2017 Location: Brandon Mb Status: Offline Points: 3511	Post Options Post Reply Quote Honkytonk Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: No1 MkIII Sniper Posted: April 08 2019 at 5:47pm
	A lot of people on this site have No4 (T) clones. Very nice examples! Does anyone have a No1 MkIII Sniper clone? I admit I know very little in regards to the No1's, but have been reading about them as I'm getting one built for me. Just curious as I have seen pictures of originals. Quite a "Steampunk" scope mount!

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Honkytonk Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: December 30 2017 Location: Brandon Mb Status: Offline Points: 3511	Post Options Post Reply Quote Honkytonk Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: April 09 2019 at 7:33am
	One more No1 MkIII question. If a person is a decent shot and has a No1 in excellent shape, what kind of groups should they expect with open sites at 100 yds? 4"-6"?

Bear43 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Special Member Donating Member Joined: August 11 2010 Location: Doland, SD Status: Offline Points: 2800	Post Options Post Reply Quote Bear43 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: April 09 2019 at 7:49am
	A No 1 will do better than that. The one I shoot the most will get 2-3" at 100 yards all day long with surplus ammo.

Honkytonk Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: December 30 2017 Location: Brandon Mb Status: Offline Points: 3511	Post Options Post Reply Quote Honkytonk Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: April 09 2019 at 8:40am
	Very good! As I am currently just learning about these rifles, any and all information is greatly appreciated.

smerdon42 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: February 20 2018 Location: Natick MA Status: Offline Points: 207	Post Options Post Reply Quote smerdon42 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: April 09 2019 at 1:53pm
	Honkytonk I would also like to know about this I like mk3 s but of the lithgow variety would love to do a tribute sniper .

Honkytonk Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: December 30 2017 Location: Brandon Mb Status: Offline Points: 3511	Post Options Post Reply Quote Honkytonk Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: April 09 2019 at 2:12pm
	The mounts I've seen on the internet, which I assume are original, look fairly complex. Also, again assuming they are original, the rifles I've seen don't have cheek risers and the scope looks to sit fairly high. Any idea what scope would have been used?

Shamu Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Logo Designer / Donating Member Joined: April 25 2007 Location: MD, USA. Status: Offline Points: 13020	Post Options Post Reply Quote Shamu Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: April 09 2019 at 3:11pm
	They were offset to the left to allow for Charger loading. "an offset Periscopic Prism Company scope using a 5-screw mount" https://www.forgottenweapons.com/british-world-war-one-smle-sniper-rifle/ Most would have been equipped with vernier peep sights rather like my SMLE, There was a lot of talk about such a rifle being used at Galipoli, but the big argument is which type would have been the "Galipoli Sight" as it was known. The folding Mues seems to be a popular contender but it could have been many similar Aussie made folding aperture sights contender. The thing was the British didn't ever have an "official" sniper rifle during WW!, it was considered gangster & Unsporting, so many different setups were used, many commercial "borrowed" rifles & Scopes which at the time were considered "fragile & unsuitable"
	Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)

A square 10 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Special Member Donating Member Joined: December 12 2006 Location: MN , USA Status: Offline Points: 11193	Post Options Post Reply Quote A square 10 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: April 09 2019 at 3:17pm
	they are a fun looking rifle , but appear somewhat clumsey in use ,

Shamu Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Logo Designer / Donating Member Joined: April 25 2007 Location: MD, USA. Status: Offline Points: 13020	Post Options Post Reply Quote Shamu Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: April 09 2019 at 3:37pm
	More info here: http://americansocietyofarmscollectors.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Maze-Great-war-Galilean-optical-sniping-sights-past-and-present-vol115-p42-50.pdf
	Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)

smerdon42 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: February 20 2018 Location: Natick MA Status: Offline Points: 207	Post Options Post Reply Quote smerdon42 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: April 09 2019 at 3:59pm
	Here is some picture I took from the Australian war memorial while home in January of gallipoli sniper rifles .sorry for the reflection but it was behind a glass wall with a bunch of sniper paraphenalia . There is a cross from Amiens with arelatives name on it in here as well .

terrylee Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: December 30 2014 Location: South Africa Status: Offline Points: 423	Post Options Post Reply Quote terrylee Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: April 09 2019 at 4:20pm
	Shamu, Are you sure that the T/S in your post is a Periscopic Prism Co.? Looks like an Aldis. I attach two shots of PPs.

Honkytonk Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: December 30 2017 Location: Brandon Mb Status: Offline Points: 3511	Post Options Post Reply Quote Honkytonk Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: April 09 2019 at 5:16pm
	I had know idea those mounts were so offset! Amazing! Again, learning lots about No1's.

Zed Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Special Member Donating Member Joined: May 01 2012 Location: France Status: Offline Points: 3979	Post Options Post Reply Quote Zed Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: April 10 2019 at 4:20am
	There is currently a very interesting thread on "Milsurp's" forum. Someone has just purchased a job lot of 4 Lithgow Sniper rifles; to add to the one he already has. Seeing all 5 together is a beautiful sight! All very nice condition.
	It's nice to be important, but it's more important to be nice!

Honkytonk Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: December 30 2017 Location: Brandon Mb Status: Offline Points: 3511	Post Options Post Reply Quote Honkytonk Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: April 10 2019 at 4:32am
	As with the No4's, I realize you can buy repo mounts, Mk32 scopes and cheek risers. Does anyone know if there are repo No1 mounts and scopes? Just curious. As a lefty, I'm I'm pretty sure the mount pictured was intended for righties only!

Shamu Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Logo Designer / Donating Member Joined: April 25 2007 Location: MD, USA. Status: Offline Points: 13020	Post Options Post Reply Quote Shamu Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: April 10 2019 at 7:03am
	Not really sure I just copied the image & caption.
	Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)

terrylee Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: December 30 2014 Location: South Africa Status: Offline Points: 423	Post Options Post Reply Quote terrylee Report Post Thanks(1) Quote Reply Posted: April 10 2019 at 10:42am
	Some SMLE Telescopic Sights Top: WW I Martin Galilean optical sight. Center: WW I Periscopic Prism Company. Bottom: WW II Australian High Mount Pattern '18.