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    Posted: April 08 2019 at 5:47pm
A lot of people on this site have No4 (T) clones. Very nice examples! Does anyone have a No1 MkIII Sniper clone? I admit I know very little in regards to the No1's, but have been reading about them as I'm getting one built for me. Just curious as I have seen pictures of originals. Quite a "Steampunk" scope mount!
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One more No1 MkIII question. If a person is a decent shot and has a No1 in excellent shape, what kind of groups should they expect with open sites at 100 yds? 4"-6"?
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A No 1 will do better than that. The one I shoot the most will get 2-3" at 100 yards all day long with surplus ammo.
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Very good! As I am currently just learning about these rifles, any and all information is greatly appreciated.
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Honkytonk I would also like to know about this I like mk3 s but of the lithgow variety  would love to do a tribute sniper .
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The mounts I've seen on the internet, which I assume are original, look fairly complex. Also, again assuming they are original, the rifles I've seen don't have cheek risers and the scope looks to sit fairly high. Any idea what scope would have been used?
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They were offset to the left to allow for Charger loading.
"an offset Periscopic Prism Company scope using a 5-screw mount"

Most would have been equipped with vernier peep sights rather like my SMLE, There was a lot of talk about such a rifle being used at Galipoli, but the big argument is which type would have been the "Galipoli Sight" as it was known. The folding Mues seems to be a popular contender but it could have been many similar Aussie made folding aperture sights contender.
The thing was the British didn't ever have an "official" sniper rifle during WW!, it was considered gangster & Unsporting, so many different setups were used, many commercial "borrowed" rifles & Scopes which at the time were considered "fragile & unsuitable"

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they are a fun looking rifle , but appear somewhat clumsey in use , 
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Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)
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Here is some picture I took from the Australian war memorial while home in January of gallipoli sniper rifles .sorry for the reflection but it was behind a glass wall with a bunch of sniper paraphenalia . There is  a cross from Amiens with arelatives name on it in here as well .
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Shamu, Are you sure that the T/S in your post is a Periscopic Prism Co.?  Looks like an Aldis.
I attach two shots of PPs. 
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I had know idea those mounts were so offset! Amazing! Again, learning lots about No1's.
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There is currently a very interesting thread on "Milsurp's" forum. Someone has just purchased a job lot of 4 Lithgow Sniper rifles; to add to the one he already has. Seeing all 5 together is a beautiful sight! All very nice condition.
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As with the No4's, I realize you can buy repo mounts, Mk32 scopes and cheek risers. Does anyone know if there are repo No1 mounts and scopes? Just curious. As a lefty, I'm I'm pretty sure the mount pictured was intended for righties only!
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Not really sure I just copied the image & caption.
Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)
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Some SMLE Telescopic Sights
Top:          WW I Martin Galilean optical sight.
Center:     WW I Periscopic Prism Company.
Bottom:     WW II Australian High Mount Pattern '18.





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