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    Posted: January 09 2020 at 1:18pm
It's dirty,greasy,caked with cosmoline, and it smells funny. I like it!!!
Everything as far as the twisty bit goes,works flawlessly.  I have found only 4 stamps. The No7MkI/L,a V, a broad arrow, and M47A.
I do not intend to ever relinquish ownership of this bayonet and have therefore decided to restore it to what it might have looked like when it was first assembled. I was told that I now have two of the most sought out bayonets for the No4 rifle,the SM No4Mk1 cruciform and the BSA No7MkI (even though it was intended for another weapon). I think in doing okay so far...Thumbs Up
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This is all the info I could find on it doing an interweb search.

No. 7 Mk. I/LThe No. 7 Mk. I/L was a very innovative and complex design, with a unique swiveling pommel. Part knife bayonet and part socket bayonet, the No. 7 Mk. I/L would mount to the Lee Enfield No. 4 rifleand the Mk. V Sten submachine gun.

The No. 7 Mk. I/L (number seven, mark one, land service) was intended to address a number of desires:

1) Replace the No. 4 spike bayonet     (that nobody liked);
2) Utilize the clip-point blade of the     No. 5 Mk. I bayonet (that     everybody liked); and,
3) Serve a dual role as a fighting     knife.

Despite all of it's ingenuity, the No. 7 Mk. I/L came to prove the old adage that a camel is a horse, as designed by committee. Although capable of mounting to the No. 4 rifle, these bayonets were not issued as such, only being used with the No. 4 rifle for ceremonial purposes.

The grip scales are made of a resin impregnated cloth composite, Paxolin, and have deep finger grooves to allow use as a fighting knife. Examples are also found with black grips.

176,000 No. 7 Mk. I/L bayonets were produced. The design was perfected by the Wilkinson Sword Co., who produced 1,000 bayonets in 1944. Mass production was carried out by four manufacturers from 1945–1948:

Birmingham Small Arms, Ltd. —25,000;

Elkington & Co. Ltd., Birmingham —20,000;

Royal Ordnance Factory, Poole —30,000; and,

Royal Ordnance Factory, Newport —100,000.

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IIRC "M47A" is BSA Small Heath (Nr Birmingham)
Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)
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congrats - a black one in deed , very nice , 

ive only found poole in mine - the least prolific , you found a BSA i was looking for - congrats , clean it and i think you will be happy , it saw little use , should clean up real nice , 

they were intended for more than one use - the no4 being one so i think your spot on having it in your collection , it is unique in this realm , 
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It was horrendous on the inside. I'm cleaning everything in hot water using Dawn dishwashing detergent, a toothbrush and wash rag. If you've ever wondered what a totally disassembled No7MkI bayonet looks like...Hug
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Cleaned up,lightly greased, and reassembled.  Amazingly, nothing needed to be,"touched up". I am extremely happy that I was able to aquire this bayonet...
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That's cleaned up nicely. Great addition to your collection.
Do you have a No9 Bayonet as well?
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Tucked away somewhere, I have a Savage made spike bayonet and a No9 blade type. 
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Originally posted by Zed Zed wrote:

That's cleaned up nicely. Great addition to your collection.
Do you have a No9 Bayonet as well?
Found the rest of the stabby bits Zed. From top to bottom. 
No7MkI/L
1941 No4Mk1 cruciform
1961 POF No9Mk1
No4MkII Savage made 
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Wow! I had no idea they were that complex internally.
Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)
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That's a nice sticker!
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nice catch - nice job - nice collection , congrats all the way around , 

shamu - i have never taken mine apart that far either so i would not have guessed that , the other no4s were much simpler 
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There was an old B&W movie I went to with my dad back in the early 60's "The Backroom Boys" or similar.
It was a tale of the science labs behind the war effort, highly fictionalized.
One running gag they had was the 2 "boffins" inventing a new bayonet. every time they appeared it had more gadgets & more tools for more uses.
By the end of the movie it was a kind of "Swiss Army Bayonet" with all sorts of increasingly daft things.
Finally the frustrated boss sits them down & says.
"GENTLEMEN!
While it is brilliant you have to understand the average Tommy only ever uses a bayonet to open a tin of corned beef"!

Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)
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I popped open a can of cat food with it yesterday Big smile...
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