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    Posted: January 16 2023 at 9:04am
Found this looking around at Parker Hale stuff this morning. Listed as a cleaning rod. Used in conjunction with cleaning patches to clean the chamber area. Anyone seen or used one of these before? I have never seen anything like it.



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Me neither!
The chamber cleaning stick, designed to be used with the dreaded "Gauze Patches", is the only chamber cleaning implement I'm familiar with.
https://www.milsurps.com/images/imported/2010/02/cleaningstuff01-1.jpg

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Lol!

Interesting tools for sure, both new to me. The Parker Hale one looks to be used almost like a bolt. Inserted like a bolt and turn the "bolt handle" up and down to clean the chamber. Not sure of how it actually works. Kind of neat.

Edit: Looks like the "bolt handle" is a separate piece. Maybe lock it in like a bolt and twist the rest of the tool. ???
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It is a bore/centering guide for the cleaning rod. It locks in like a bolt assembly and the cleaning rod slides inside it...
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I not seen that PH rod either.

Here’s what I use.  PH cleaning rod, rod guide and rod stop.  Dewey chamber cleaning rod (fixed handle) and bronze chamber brush.  I wrap a patch around the chamber brush. 


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Originally posted by Goosic Goosic wrote:

It is a bore/centering guide for the cleaning rod. It locks in like a bolt assembly and the cleaning rod slides inside it...

Oh, ok. That makes more sense. Thanks!
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This thread has made me reach for my small collection (6) of Parker-Hale catalogues, I couldn't find an example in them and have never seen a bore guide quite like it, assuming that's what it is? 

Very interesting regardless of exactly what it is and how it was used?
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Very interesting indeed! I have been around surplus firearms for over 30 years and i have never seen anything like it.
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Originally posted by Strangely Brown Strangely Brown wrote:

  (assuming that's what it is?)

Very interesting regardless of exactly what it is and how it was used?
My dad has one that he used on his Parker Hale Rifle. 
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So there's a hole drilled through the center for the rod?
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Description from the auction.

"Original Parker Hale Lee Enfield SMLE No1 Mk3 cleaning bolt.
Marked "The Parker-Hale, L.E. Cleaning Bolt, List No 285 B." with "Made in England" above "AGA".
In great shape and retains a majority of the original bluing with only some minor blemishes in the way of handling marks and finish wear.
There is very little information available on this particular tool, but from what I gather it is used (in conjunction with a cleaning cloth) to clean the inside action and chamber of the SMLE No1 Mk3 rifle.
Extremely rare original tool."
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Originally posted by scottz63 scottz63 wrote:

Description from the auction.
 "The Parker-Hale, L.E. Cleaning Bolt, List No 285 B." with "Made in England" above "AGA".

Assuming that the item is worn and "AGA" should actually read "AGP", this would date the bore guide to before 1925 when A.T.C. Hale took over and renamed the company Parker-Hale.

Goosic thanks for the confirmation! 
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Before the old man left Germany, he bought two PH Custom No4 rifles, one Nikko Stirling 4x32 scope, 8 boxes of Norma 215grn bullets, and that cleaning rod guide from the Rod & Gun Club. My sister has all of his stuff now...
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Doesn’t show in my No. 62 (circa 1960?) Parker Hale catalog either, perhaps was discontinued by then. 
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The other pic from the auction. It does say AGP





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Originally posted by Goosic Goosic wrote:

Before the old man left Germany, he bought two PH Custom No4 rifles, one Nikko Stirling 4x32 scope, 8 boxes of Norma 215grn bullets, and that cleaning rod guide from the Rod & Gun Club. My sister has all of his stuff now...

You need that stuff. LOL!
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