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    Posted: October 05 2011 at 9:29pm

Let's say you came from the range after shooting your Enfield, or any rifle for that matters. You spent time cleaning it and oiling its barrel. Now you might end storing on its end, muzzle side up. And so stays the rifle for a while for whatever reason.

And maybe dirt/dust and small animals decide to get into the barrel. Is there a good way to prevent that to happen?

One morning you see the birds chirping, the cows flying just right above the clouds, an decide it is a good day to go shooting. Do you do a quick barrel cleaning/gun inspecting before taking it for some family friend shooting?

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Er, I really meant family friendly shooting, but I think I will leave it as it is... Wink
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Just cut a finger off of an old rubber glove & drop it over the muzzle.
If it's a #1 then it's a tad harder as the barrel is inside the stock.

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Gun socks are long uh, socks that slip over the rifle and keep it clean. Buy at gun shows or easy to sew.
If I oiled the barrel heavily for long storage I run a patch through before shooting.

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You just made me picture using my old socks over the muzzle side of the rifle ;)

I talked about heavy oiling a gun and he said problem is if you have gun standing nose up, the oil will make its way down past the breech and then wherever it wants to.

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The main difference between oil and grease is, grease generally stays where you put it.
For long-term storage I use RIG (tm)  or the equivalent.
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You could always put a large patch in the chamber to catch any oil. Just make sure you run a rod through to get the patch out and take off the excess oil.
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I use a condom taped to the end of the muzzle.  They keep the dirt/mud/water out of the barrel and if I ever forget to remove it before use there's no real harm done.
 
I get a few strange looks however.... Smile
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There's things called "Finger cotts"  Basically a finger-sized condom, but thicker. They're used in industry a lot where you need the dexterity of the hand, but can't have finger prints on the item being handled.


We used to get a good laugh during safety orientations when we'd bring out the bags of a thousand or so, all marked as "Small", "Medium", or "Large". Large was to fit over the average thumb & small on a tiny pinky.Embarrassed

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I always store my guns muzzle down.
Storing them muzzle up allows the oil to run down and soak into the wood. Gun oil will eventually destroy the wood around the action.
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I usually store muzzle down for the first couple of days. By the time I flip the rifle muzzle up any oil that's going to run has. Right onto the wad of newsprint the muzzle is standing on.
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Heresy, I know but I don't leave a film of oil in the barrel just clean them and put them muzzle up in the gun cabinet.  I shoot them often enough not to worry about long term storage but there is a container of silica gel on the floor of the gun cabinet. I have been know to open the door to admire them from time to time.
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Originally posted by raubvogel raubvogel wrote:

You just made me picture using my old socks over the muzzle side of the rifle ;)

I talked about heavy oiling a gun and he said problem is if you have gun standing nose up, the oil will make its way down past the breech and then wherever it wants to.

The Regulations for Musketry recommended cutting the toe from an old sock and pulling it down over the action as an action cover to keep out mud. This was in 1915, probably before the canvas action covers became a common issue item.
A sock sounds about right for the bulky nose cap of the SMLE.
 
Storing muzzle up will allow oil to impregnate the end grain of the rear of the fore end, softening the wood and resulting in oil perishing.
 
I prefer to hang a rifle upside down on long screws covered with old sparkplug cable ends or surgical tubing.
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In my youth I bought many condoms.  Now as I get older and still have most of them, I realise what an optomist I was! Unhappy
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Any one ever use petroleum jelly for gun storage ????  old Man down the street ,( Cotton Mouths Grandfather) used Petroleum jelly on his guns !!  I have also heard it called carbonated petroleum jelly , but have never been able to find it ...I have heard this from several older Gentlemen from around here to New Orleans !!
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I always thought "Petroleum Jelly" was a generic term for "Vaseline"?
Then I found this:
"There used to be Carbolated Vaseline, it came in a brown colored jar and looked the same as the regular Vaseline except for the jar color and the color of the product. It was the best stuff for chafing and rashes. It would eliminate a rash overnight like a rash from clothes rubbing against skin. I have been trying to find it for quite a long time but have not been successful. I assume they no longer manufacture it but I can't imagine why (making carbolated vaseline involves working in a very toxic environment) . I came on this question when I was searching the internet for a Chese-Brough Ponds web site; can't find that either.
http://bbs.goodolddaysonline.com/cgi-bin/goodold/board/webbbs_config.pl?read=832

this link takes you to a letter response from the Vaseline people about why they discontinued the product

http://www.millersrexall.com/webstore/product_info.php/products_id/282?osCsid=e8d97dc99ac5351f72f59bc7ab8890df


this link takes you to a company that sells Carbolated (ie medicated) Vaseline but it seems pretty expensive - $12.99 and I can't tell how much you get for the money; looks good though - I may give it a try"

I guess the carboLated, not carboNated refers to the same stuff  (phenol to give the jelly additional anti-bacterial effect) that used to be used to make "Carbolic soap"? Supposedly it's also known as "Brown Vaseline", "Medicated Vaseline", or "Brown Petroleum Jelly" as well.

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