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thanks Ed for the info and thanks Eric for the invite, I'll have to take you up on that sometime.
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OK If I was Looking at a blank table again to be set up to reload here's how I'd do the bare basics

     A "O" Type press (as it has been said Lee put out a good cast ,but hey you never know what you might find second hand

     A Powder scale  (LEE's powder scale leaves me cold  RCBS,LYMAN,REDDING all make great scales

     A set of dies for the cal/Cals I want to reload  (We can sit & argue who makes the best dies all night But LEE once again give you more bang for your buck )

     A Powder funnel  (a invaluble piece of equipment to the reloader ask anyone who has tried to poutr powder from the tray of their scales into a case once again lee makes one

      A loading Block  (another of the must haves . Once again it's a cheap tray with holes in it .But  as you do each stage of your reloading the cases are sitting upright  & are easy to grab & you can check the level of powder in all of them at a glance )

       Case chamfering tool  (before you fire new brass you scrape a small chammfer on the inside of the mouth of the case  LEE once again )

       A Primer pocket cleaning tool  (LEE)

        Now you have all these lovely tools in front of you!  Take the time to get a Manual  if your going to use LEE  gear LEE has a great reloding manual ! Speer ,Lyman & several  other manufactures  have great manuals  as well s the already mentioned ABC of reloading

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I figured I'd get Dave to chime in on this a bit. Thanks Dave! I know you "humble" opinions are valued on the site.

A bit off subject...just got 200 rounds of surplus from Sportsman's Guide and I have 2 questions. (mainly for Dave) A majority are nickel plated not copper, you've said in the past that this is a "mother" to get cleaned out...what would be the best way/product to go about cleaning my bore after shooting it and how often? Second question, Most of the 200 are british headstamped from the early 40's but I don't recognize these ones --> 64  K (upward arrow w/ 2 lines through perpendicularly[see below]) F

Anyone know this headstamp?

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K F, Kirkee factory India?

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MY GOD I KNEW SOONER OR LATER NICKEL JACKETS WOULD SHOW THEIR UGLY FACES AGAIN TO GIVE ME NIGHT MARES !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

   OK two options ! First is to pull the bullets & replace them with copper jacketed stuff  (& give ,sell throw at someone you  either do'nt like ,are smaller than you ,or are never going to see again The nasty Nickel coated stuff ) OK nobody likes pulling bullets myself included ! So at the end of the days shooting swab your barrel (pref whilst it's still warm)  with Sweets 7.62 solvent then as soon as you get home swab the barrel out & then with a bronze brush scrub for 20 or so passes ! Then a patch with white spirit to dry the bore repeat several times until the patch comes out clean & then check the bore for anything that looks like a deposit ! If you even think that there is still something in the bore repeat with the Brush ! Also remember to clean you bronze brush out in white spirit  (nothing more embaressing than to go to use your brush again & all that is left is the stem as Sweets eats away cooper /bronze !

     Now for causeing me to have nightmares tonight you will write out 2million times ........I will never use Nickel jacketed ammo again !

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Now dave, will Sweets 7.62 also clean/neutralize the corrosive salts from surplus ammo? Best place to buy it on-line?

 

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Corrosive ammo ! It just gets worse ! I've used sweets only to clean barrels for years  (dating back to the days when it was Sweets 303 solvent ) Yes I know about pouring boiling water through your barrel ,Placing the muzzle in a bucket of boiling water & swabing the water through it ! Adding bi carb of soda to the water ect ! I have also used over the years .303 ammo dating back to 1918 (hey it was cheap ) All I have ever used was Sweets followed by a good swab with Metholated spirits (White spirits ) to dry out the barrel & I have suffered no undue barrel corrostion ! I don't recomend it for cast bullets though! For those I use hoppes #9 or of late TETRA products .
       As for Sweets I don't know where you'd find it over in the States I'm sure one of the other blokes will know ,as I have heard it mentioned quite often on your side of the pond

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Sweets is readily available in the Sacramento area at Big 5 stores, as well as all the gunshops. Dave, I say stick with what works for you! I have shot a lot of corrosive ammo through my Mauser, and always clean while hot with Windex window cleaner.
I think the water takes care of the corrosive salts, and the ammonia starts on the copper. I then clean at home with Hoppes, and occasionally Sweets or Bore Scrubber and have never had a problem.
I have seen the claim that Hoppes is still using their original formula and it will remove corrosive salts, I have also seen it asserted that they changed their formula years ago and you have to use Hoppes black powder to remove corrosive fouling,
so who knows?

Dave, for us U.S. types,  are white spirits the same as white gas or stove fuel?

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Yes Ed I agree with you on the Hoppes ! I reckon they changed themix some years ago . Also the White spirit I mentioned is what you would use in a spirt stove I always have to think what something may be called in another county Yes I think it would be called White gas over your side of the Pond

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Originally posted by dave h dave h wrote:

Yes Ed I agree with you on the Hoppes ! I reckon they changed themix some years ago . Also the White spirit I mentioned is what you would use in a spirt stove I always have to think what something may be called in another county Yes I think it would be called White gas over your side of the Pond

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No it's not Kero ,it's a clear alchole base spirt Known as Metholated spirit over here

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Yes, white gas, coleman (brand) fuel like I'd use in the Svea pack stove.
Back when I had Nortons, I could translate pretty well from the workshop manual
" twist spanner whilst holding lever firmly" They wanted parts washed in parrafin which is wax over here.

Thank goodnes most of the Enfield manuals are pretty straight forward!
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Well, I don't want to drag this out, but I wanted to advise everyone Not to use white gas for cleaning their rifle. I found an international fuel directory, white spirits or methylated spirts are alcohol based, with a very high flash point and are commonly used for cleaning. White gas is petrol based and very flammable, Dave you would probably know it as Mobilite or Shellite.
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Thanks for clearing that up Ed ! Your a gentleman of the highest order As I say it's hard trying to explain something we take for granted & it has a differant name ove seas

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