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    Posted: November 17 2025 at 6:13am
Hi all,

I recently won this P14 in an auction, I didn't have a No3 and needed it to keep the numbers running in the collection. I just felt I needed one - don't judge me.
Now, I don't have mush experience with the P14 and even less literature on them. 


I've found out, according to the serial number, it is a 1917 manufacture. 
IW - Winchester, but the front volley sight has an E on it, is that for Eddystone?

 

I've identified the proof marks, but an inspection mark is giving me some trouble.


This mark is on the stock just behind the trigger guard, and is a little difficult to distinguish.
It has the usual crown over what I assume is a factory/depot number of 14, and this in turn is above an A. My records of inspection marks only covers WWII and 14 doesn't appear.

I haven't taken any of the furniture off to look underneath yet, I want to shoot it at least once before I break it.

Any information anyone can tell me about this particular rifle would be greatly appreciated.
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All I can tell you is that the E on the volley sight does mean Eddystone was the manufacturer of that part.
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Thanks Bear, it sort of made sense. I guess some parts were contracted out or bought in as needed.

I get to shoot it this weekend, finally. I haven't shot a P14 yet, they're meant to be good shooters. I'm looking forward to it.
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It's always a good day when you take a new rifle to the range! Enjoy your day.
I've been waiting since July to test a couple of Enfields, but our large calibre ranch is closed temporarily.
I want to test them before doing any work on them.
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Even a bad day on the range is better than a good day in the office
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Ialso have another Enfield to take out for the first time. I'm really excited about that one.

Maybe a range report next week.  
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The barrel will be dated in the left side (non-bolt handle side) in 2 digit format. The receiver, bolt, barrel and rear sight should have matching numbers. Is there a star (*) on the receiver ? 
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i can tell you that any - ANY -parts that dont match are a result of service or after service repairs , the three mfgrs did not mix parts they were totally autonomous - every rifle left the factory 100% that mfgr , 

that said its also worth noting that the commonwealth contracts were just like the enfield contracts - did not require interchangeable parts , unlike the US contracts fot the M1917 , another worthy note is that winchester produced the least rifles of the three for both the commonwealth and US contracts as they had the most problems meeting standards and production parameters , yet they produced the most accurate rifles , 

FWIW ive owned close to 50 of these in both versions and from all three mfgrs , ive done a lot of research , i no longer own any , or any of my references but i still remember a lot of info , 

eddystone was the highest producer , remington was second [they had nothing to do with the remington company - it was a private enterprise by a group of investors , and winchgester made the least , 
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Originally posted by Enfield trader Enfield trader wrote:

The barrel will be dated in the left side (non-bolt handle side) in 2 digit format. The receiver, bolt, barrel and rear sight should have matching numbers. Is there a star (*) on the receiver ? 

Well, curiosity got the better of me and I took the top wood off.

The date is shown as '17 along with the proof and acceptance marks.

On the right side there is the same serial number and stray '9' and a 5 pointed star.
There's also a strange stamp which might be a misstamp of an acceptance mark, part of it looks like it could be a corrupted crown.
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Originally posted by A square 10 A square 10 wrote:

i can tell you that any - ANY -parts that dont match are a result of service or after service repairs , the three mfgrs did not mix parts they were totally autonomous - every rifle left the factory 100% that mfgr , 

that said its also worth noting that the commonwealth contracts were just like the enfield contracts - did not require interchangeable parts , unlike the US contracts fot the M1917 , another worthy note is that winchester produced the least rifles of the three for both the commonwealth and US contracts as they had the most problems meeting standards and production parameters , yet they produced the most accurate rifles , 

FWIW ive owned close to 50 of these in both versions and from all three mfgrs , ive done a lot of research , i no longer own any , or any of my references but i still remember a lot of info , 

eddystone was the highest producer , remington was second [they had nothing to do with the remington company - it was a private enterprise by a group of investors , and winchgester made the least , 

Interesting, thanks.
The only part I can see with an E on it is the front volley sight, every other piece that is marked has a W on it.

I'm hoping I have one of the accurate Winchesters. We'll see this weekend.
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does the front volley still have its pointer ? if not that may indicate the rifle went thru weedon repairs for review prior to going to stores between the wars , this was quite common and that E market sight might have been put there because the W marked one was damaged yo fill the hole , 

these were also sent as foreign aid - like to greece when they had their disturbance 
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The fore sight seems complete with pointer. 

perhaps one of those mysteries we'll never solve. Smile
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Well, took it for a shoot last weekend. 

It performed great at 100yds, Only a couple of shots to get on target and then hitting the middle of a Fig11 off a bag every time. I didn't get to go further back until the afternoon, and by then it had started raining at Bisley, didn't want it to get wet. Cry

Somehow didn't manage to get a pic of the P14, but the Faux(T) made an outing as well, and that shot like a demon with the standard S&B ammo off the bag. Did manage to get a pic of that with the wife showing me up by shooting better than me Embarrassed
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Women are generally great shots. 
A few weeks ago I got my arse handed to me on a plate, when my 14 year old daughter cleared all 5 gongs with the Beretta M9A3, while I only managed 3!
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Originally posted by M@tt M@tt wrote:

Originally posted by Enfield trader Enfield trader wrote:

The barrel will be dated in the left side (non-bolt handle side) in 2 digit format. The receiver, bolt, barrel and rear sight should have matching numbers. Is there a star (*) on the receiver ? 

Well, curiosity got the better of me and I took the top wood off.

The date is shown as '17 along with the proof and acceptance marks.

On the right side there is the same serial number and stray '9' and a 5 pointed star.
There's also a strange stamp which might be a misstamp of an acceptance mark, part of it looks like it could be a corrupted crown.






Nice - the star should be present on the barrel, bolt, receiver and stock by the brass disk. Indicates a long left locking lug and requested by the Brits. 
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Originally posted by Enfield trader Enfield trader wrote:

Nice - the star should be present on the barrel, bolt, receiver and stock by the brass disk. Indicates a long left locking lug and requested by the Brits. 

Yes, the star is on all those parts.
Thanks for the info, I didn't know that, the P14 is a new experience for me.
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Originally posted by Zed Zed wrote:

Women are generally great shots. 
A few weeks ago I got my arse handed to me on a plate, when my 14 year old daughter cleared all 5 gongs with the Beretta M9A3, while I only managed 3!


Don't I know it.

Last year she was UK 200yd small bore champion.
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