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Topic: New member from Orlando FL
Posted By: frgood
Subject: New member from Orlando FL
Date Posted: January 08 2020 at 1:47pm
he!!o,

I have just joined this forum with the hopes of learning more about the Enfield rifle. What has prompted my interest is my 84 yr. old Father-in-Law. He, and his family, emigrated from the UK a few decades ago and only recently he was telling me stories about his father. 

His father enlisted in the British army 1939 and was issued an Enfield.  As my Father-in-law has never touched a firearm, I thought I'd like to introduce him to 'America' gun sports. Also, I'd like to see if I can track down a version of the rifle his father might have handled along with any history I can track down. I think that would make a great gift as I know it would be something quite profound for him. 

At the other end of the generation track, I am hand building  several 1911's to hand down to my children. So I enjoy the sport as well as the history. I have a sneaking suspicion that I have stumbled onto a very deep well. 

I think this is going to be a great fall. 



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Posted By: paddyofurniture
Date Posted: January 09 2020 at 6:51am
Welcome from North Carolina!

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Posted By: Canuck
Date Posted: January 09 2020 at 7:53am
Welcome from British Columbia, Canada!

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Posted By: Honkytonk
Date Posted: January 09 2020 at 8:06am
Welcome from Brandon, Manitoba, Canada!


Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: January 09 2020 at 10:27am
Welcome.
In 1939 he'd have been issued "Old Smelliie", a "Rifle No1 MkIII*", the No 4 didn't come out for a couple of years yet.
It would have looked pretty much like this: (Right click >> view Image >> "+" to enlarge for details)


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Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)


Posted By: Honkytonk
Date Posted: January 09 2020 at 10:45am
That's actually a great picture. Would make a most excellent Man-Cave poster!


Posted By: britrifles
Date Posted: January 09 2020 at 12:18pm
Welcome from Atlanta GA.  Sometimes, in Blue Ridge GA. 
Great pic Sham, I'd like to blow that up to full size and put it up in my gun room.


Posted By: englishman_ca
Date Posted: January 09 2020 at 1:23pm
Welcome from The Great White North.


Must be my OCD, but there is a piece missing in the pic of the Lithgow and it is bugging me. If I made a poster of it, I would have to draw it in with pencil.

Pop quizz! Wot is missing?

Not a piece hiding mounted in the wood set or on the barreled action. 

The piece is something that should be shown in the pic. I know with some certainty that they had to remove it on disassembly to produce the picture. 

????



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Posted By: philtno
Date Posted: January 09 2020 at 1:49pm
You've come to the right place for that Smile
Welcome from Picton New Zealand Thumbs Up


Posted By: Goosic
Date Posted: January 09 2020 at 1:51pm
 That metal clamp to attach the little wood bit to the barrel?


Posted By: englishman_ca
Date Posted: January 09 2020 at 2:09pm
Wot??

Nope. Cold, almost freezing.


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Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: January 09 2020 at 2:16pm
The leather stock bolt washer?
Or the spring?
Both?
Dead
I can add those easily first.

The original is 361/2" X 24 1/4" (almost) File is 772Kb
If you have an e-mail that will take a file that big I can e mail it to you.
Staples or a similar dealer could output the file to you relatively inexpensively, even laminate it if you wanted.


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Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)


Posted By: Honkytonk
Date Posted: January 09 2020 at 2:53pm
A pint of Guiness?


Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: January 09 2020 at 3:53pm
No matter! I'd like that as a framed poster as well!!
(Hang it on my bedroom cieling!)

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Posted By: SW28fan
Date Posted: January 09 2020 at 5:18pm
Welcome from Texas

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Posted By: englishman_ca
Date Posted: January 09 2020 at 6:12pm
Warmer, it is at the butt end.

I printed one off for the wall, got me a pencil out and drew in a trap door pin.

They would have to drive it out to remove the trap door. Not in the pic. Maybe they dropped it on the shag pile carpet? (I hate when that happens)


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Posted By: 42rocker
Date Posted: January 09 2020 at 6:49pm
Welcome from another Fla member. 
 
Later 42rocker


Posted By: A square 10
Date Posted: January 09 2020 at 6:54pm
welcome from a little less north , 

the no4 rifle was just being developed at that point after many years of trials in a few different forms , but shamu is correct the no1 mkIII-III* would have been issue in 1939 , shortly after that no4s would have been a lot more common as only BSA was still making the mkIII-III* in dispersal mode , except for Australia and India , 
if anything like here when he joined in 39 he may have trained with the no1 and later been issued a no4 - but im only speculating on this , either would be fun for both of you in the experience - i am guessing his father is no longer with us , but if he is ask him , 


Posted By: Zed
Date Posted: January 10 2020 at 1:17am
Welcome to the forum from France.

Regarding the lovely poster; I can't see the main screw/ trigger guard spacer.
Or do I need to clean my glasses!

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Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: January 10 2020 at 8:16am
Great! now I have to find, scale & drop in 3 missing pieces!
ARGHHHH!
Censored
Give me a couple of days.


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Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)


Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: January 13 2020 at 9:55am
UPDATED
Here's the "exploded view" of the rifle with 3 changes.
I added the trapdoor hinge pin, the stock bolt washer & the leather washer, all of which were missing.
Then I added the "Magazine spring auxiliary spring as well!
I have it in 2 sizes if anyone's interested. I think I can e-mail them in these resolutions:
No1: 36 1/2" X 24 1/4" (2917Kb)
Or:
No2: 22" X 14 1/4" (2.4Mb)
Resolutions are different for best quality reproduction hard-copy at different sizes)





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Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)


Posted By: englishman_ca
Date Posted: January 13 2020 at 9:58am
Auxiliary mag spring?

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Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: January 13 2020 at 10:01am
Originally posted by englishman_ca englishman_ca wrote:

Auxiliary mag spring?

Grrrr!
ARGH!
"recalculating . . . "Ouch
anything else missing?


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Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)


Posted By: Zed
Date Posted: January 13 2020 at 12:07pm
They've left the spring on the nose cap pad, no biggie. I assume the main screw collar is still in the woodwork. You'll need an x-ray to check it Shamu

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Posted By: englishman_ca
Date Posted: January 13 2020 at 12:25pm
Main screw collar stays put, it is part of an assembly, just like the sights stay on barrel.

Butt bolt washer usually stays inside butt stock too. Have you ever tried to hook one of those little bastxxds out?
I would leave it out the picture otherwise you have people using graphic as reference putting washers on their bolts like in the pic not realising that there is one already in the bottom of the hole.

But, if it is shown, steel washer should be placed at the threaded end of the bolt, the end over which it fits, not next to the leather washer as they go opposite sides of the bolt head. But I am not going to say anything, the pic is good to go.. 



I have the pic printed and am penciling in the factory part numbers against each item.




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Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: January 13 2020 at 1:22pm
I tried to get it there there isn't enough room without overlapping the receiver or bolt. I may do one of those "goes here arrows"!


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Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)


Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: January 13 2020 at 1:23pm
I'll do the spring for the other bolt though just because!
OK, moved the stock bolt washer, added the inner collar spring (but not the washer as I couldn't find a good image of one.)
I left the bolt & spring in the nosecap assembled for similar reasons.
Updated the earlier pic.


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Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)


Posted By: A square 10
Date Posted: January 13 2020 at 9:21pm
"...I have a sneaking suspicion that I have stumbled onto a very deep well...."

you have that right , its addicting as well , you cannot stop at one if you look anywhere below the surface 



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