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Posted By: Necronical
Subject: Need All Info Please
Date Posted: January 11 2020 at 5:55am

Posted By: Goosic
Date Posted: January 11 2020 at 12:09pm
Welcome from Phoenix Arizona. 
What do you need help with?
Your picture shows a No4Mk1 Enfield rifle with a sporter stock and a No1Mk111 type magazine and a barrel that has been shortened.  There should be some stampings on the flat side of the receiver and a serial number on the butt socket,"same side as the flat side" that could help us more in distinguishing where it was made and a year.

Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: January 11 2020 at 3:48pm
Does that magazine feed?
What can we do to assist?

Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)

Posted By: Necronical
Date Posted: January 12 2020 at 10:33pm
I know it is a 1942 No. 4 MK1. I believe made in Massachusetts by "Savage". I would like to know as much info as absolutely possible about the rifle. How much of it is Stock and how much is added/customized? What is the estimated, approximated, current, market value of it as it sits? I have much more detailed pics with all stamped codes/letters/numbers if needed... But, all are above 3mb in size, so... they won't allow me to upload them here. I have them in a Zip file as well as the JPG's. if anyone needs them in order to identify LMK. Anyone have any ideas on the best way to share them?

Posted By: englishman_ca
Date Posted: January 13 2020 at 9:51am
Welcome from The Great White North!

Your rifle was once a fully stocked military rifle that has been modified by a previous owner into a lighter hunting rifle. Looks to be a decent set of after market wood on it. 

The barrel looks to be full length. The magazine is from an earlier No.1 model. 
It was a very common service rifle before it was modified, they made millions of them. Lots of them on the used rifle market, lots!

The thing is a long way from being in its original military form. As a project for somebody, the cost of the parts to restore it back to military spec would be expensive. The cost would in fact be more than the completed rifle would be worth. So unless this one has some special meaning or sentimental value to you, restoration for resale is not really viable proposition. However, some people would spend their pocket money and enjoy the process of restoration.

Buy a $100 sporter, spend $600 restoring it and end up with a $500 restored rifle.

The value in this one is as a practical sporting rifle. If the barrel has a good bore, the fore stock is tight and it shoots to point of aim, you could probably sell it to somebody for hunting in the region of $150-250. Prices vary a bit with geographic location.

Current market value is not high, it is a utility iron and not a valuable rifle. 

Sad to  say, but it would be more profitable to have it stripped down and sold as individual parts. 

Look to your front, mark your target when it comes!

Posted By: Goosic
Date Posted: January 13 2020 at 9:56am
Quote:How much of it is Stock and how much is added/customized?What is the estimated, approximated, current, market value of it as it sits?
  The rifle has been sporterized beyond being able to be restored to its original configuration due mainly in part to the barrel  being cut down past the original sight location. Estimated and approximate current value as it sits varies greatly depending on the area it is to be sold in and what people are willing to pay for it.  A No4MkI* rifle,in full military stocked form will typically set you back a minimum of $500.00 here in the Southwestern United States. A sporterized No4MkI* will typically set you back a mere $250.00- $300.00. The attached photo is of a 1942 NoMkI* Long Branch Enfield. This is how yours would have looked when it left the Chickopee Falls plant.

Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: January 13 2020 at 10:19am
I'm not sure the barrel IS cut down? I agree in that pic it looks short, but the position of the front sight has me wondering?
Its hard to tell.
Can you get a close up of the muzzle area showing the tip back past the sight ramp, please.
I don't know values in IL, but here in MD it would be $125~150.

Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)

Posted By: Honkytonk
Date Posted: January 13 2020 at 10:33am
Welcome from Brandon, Manitoba, Canada! Nice rifle, from what I can see. Englishman is spot on with his estimates. Where I live might be able to squeeze $300 if it is nice internally and because of the nice wood stock (I'm assuming it's wood.)

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