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Topic: Tighter then a__________________???
Posted By: Goosic
Subject: Tighter then a__________________???
Date Posted: March 18 2020 at 11:44am
The range was not viable for this test due to the coronavirus situation. 
I drove out to the desert,paced out 303 feet on purpose.  Just over 100 yards according to the scopes side focus. Set up the chronograph five feet in front of the rifle,laid down prone and sent a cold bore shot up hill. It hit just right of center. Loaded the magazine and got busy. 2241,2237,2273,2239,2267,2252,2248,2231,2245,and 2240 fps respectively.  There was a very light drizzling rain with a 7 mph crosswind. Just over a 3/4" squared ten shot group with the custom handloads of 39.5 grains of Norma 202 and the CCI BR-2 primers and topped with the Hornady 174grn BTHP GRAF bullets...



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Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: March 18 2020 at 12:19pm
Now thats impressive!! Good looking rifle, as well (Shame bout yer hair, tho)

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Posted By: Goosic
Date Posted: March 18 2020 at 12:44pm
There is a legitimate reason for the hair that short. I used to drive semis over the road and finally got tired of having to comb my hair everytime I woke up in the truck and only being able to shower every other day and wearing those trucker hats. I was in El Paso at a full service truck stop and the barber said I'd look good with a quarter pounder flat top.  Never looked back and now my ex father in law that owns a barber shop keeps it short every three weeks now...


Posted By: Honkytonk
Date Posted: March 18 2020 at 1:08pm
Goosic. Same lid adjustment for this ex-army brat. Lived most of it on the prairie base ... Mom said we had to look like Dad (plus it was easier to spot the ticks!)


Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: March 18 2020 at 1:31pm
well, here I was thinkin it was a solar panel for a sex machine! Huh! Who knew??

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Posted By: britrifles
Date Posted: March 18 2020 at 3:43pm
 Outstanding Goosic.  Do you think these loads shoot better than your standard load with 40.0 gr of 202 and magnum primer?  

The center to center extreme spread would be about 0.70 inches.  That’s on par with my best 10 shot group with my Fulton No. 4.  My next best was 0.75 inches.  




Posted By: Goosic
Date Posted: March 18 2020 at 4:24pm
britrifles.  The center to center horizontal spread is 0.573" and my center to center vertical spread is 0.646" my daughter said the rounds fired sounded crisper.  She fired 25 rounds though it herself and we both agree that the  felt recoil was substantially less then before. The barrel never got unbearably hot as well during the testing. My take on this is that the accuracy shown is a combination of the shooter,the handloads,and the setup of the rifle itself. The average fps was 2247.3.


Posted By: Stumpkiller
Date Posted: April 03 2020 at 12:34pm
Great shooting!  (Both of you).

Happy to see your No.4 likes Hornady 174grn BTHP GRAF bullets.  I have some on the way and hope to see what the combination of my mole-sharp eyes and the iron sights can do.


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Charlie P.

Life is not about how fast you run, or how high you climb, but how well you bounce.


Posted By: Goosic
Date Posted: April 03 2020 at 1:22pm
Between what me and britrifles are doing.,(he is doing this strictly through the original battle sight or a Parker Hale target sight.) These are not  your atypical shots. 


Posted By: Stumpkiller
Date Posted: April 03 2020 at 7:33pm
Used to was I could do such thing at 100 yards with surplus rifles, iron sights and old corrosive surplus ammo.  I have cataracts older than Netflix now and . . . not so much.





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Charlie P.

Life is not about how fast you run, or how high you climb, but how well you bounce.


Posted By: Goosic
Date Posted: April 03 2020 at 10:10pm
This is a better example of my ten shot group. A big ass scope had alot to do with assisting me...


Posted By: Stanforth
Date Posted: April 04 2020 at 3:18am
Originally posted by Goosic Goosic wrote:

There is a legitimate reason for the hair that short. I used to drive semis over the road and finally got tired of having to comb my hair everytime I woke up in the truck and only being able to shower every other day and wearing those trucker hats. I was in El Paso at a full service truck stop and the barber said I'd look good with a quarter pounder flat top.  Never looked back and now my ex father in law that owns a barber shop keeps it short every three weeks now...

Two takes on that type of hairdo, which I share by the way.....
(1) Grass doesn't grow on a busy street.

(2) There is no point in thatching an empty barn.

Take your choice. Ermm


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Posted By: Pukka Bundook
Date Posted: April 04 2020 at 8:17am
Stan,
 
In Yorkshire we had two sayings, "You can't grow hair and brains as well".
 
And, like yours, "An empty barn don't need thatching".
 
Yes, take your pick!


Posted By: Goosic
Date Posted: April 04 2020 at 8:58am
Grass doesn't grow on a busy street. That's my story and I'm sticking to it...


Posted By: paddyofurniture
Date Posted: April 04 2020 at 9:12am
I still have my hair, a might bit gray, and not as thick as it once was.

My brothers can get their hair cut with their hat on.

Know idea how it happen.

They eats lots of beer and I do not.

Who knows?




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Posted By: Stanforth
Date Posted: April 04 2020 at 9:46am
Originally posted by Pukka Bundook Pukka Bundook wrote:

Stan,
 
In Yorkshire we had two sayings, "You can't grow hair and brains as well".
 
And, like yours, "An empty barn don't need thatching".
 
Yes, take your pick!

Where in Yorkshire are you from. I avoid being a Yorkshireman by 4 miles. All of it deep water.

You know what they say... You can always tell a Yorkshireman , but not much.  Wink



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Life.. a sexually transmitted condition that is invariably fatal.


Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: April 04 2020 at 9:51am
"Solar power for a sex machine" Big smile


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Posted By: pisco
Date Posted: April 04 2020 at 11:35am
nice groups
my father says god made very  few perfect heads the ones he didn’t he discissed with hair


Posted By: paddyofurniture
Date Posted: April 04 2020 at 12:43pm
Ouch!

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Always looking for military manuals, Dodge M37 items,books on Berlin Germany, old atlases ( before 1946) , military maps of Scotland. English and Canadian gun parts.


Posted By: Black Prince
Date Posted: June 29 2020 at 2:23pm
Originally posted by hoadie hoadie wrote:

Now thats impressive!! Good looking rifle, as well (Shame bout yer hair, tho)
Whats the old saying "Hair today gone tomorrow".
What herts,  is that I get charged the same as my mate who has a full head of hair at the barber, the barber laughs, if I ask fore just short sides.

Oh! by the way nice grouping lads.
At 71 it's hard to see a grey target with iron sights on a cloudy day, going to have to get to find fluro targets here in Aussie.


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Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: June 29 2020 at 3:06pm
B.P. I hunt with open sights.I'm turnin 65. Its hard to see a moving grey target in a grey bush in november.(The deer change the colour from brown to grey in fall) ...& THEY PUT A WHOLE NEW MEANING TO THE TERM " FAST FOOD!!!"

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Posted By: Goosic
Date Posted: June 29 2020 at 3:27pm
I lived in Cody Wyoming for a year and "FAST FOOD" there is Pronghorn Antelope. The things were everywhere. The high school football field, Walmart parking lot, my back yard, etc. Found four of them relaxing in a Taco Bell drive through one afternoon...


Posted By: Pukka Bundook
Date Posted: June 30 2020 at 6:50am
Stanforth,
 
Missed your Q on previous page until now;
 
I'm from near Ormesby, Nr Middlesbrough. North Riding. Sounds like you're from south of the Humber....
 
Richard.


Posted By: Stanforth
Date Posted: June 30 2020 at 9:01am
Originally posted by Pukka Bundook Pukka Bundook wrote:

Stanforth,
 
Missed your Q on previous page until now;
 
I'm from near Ormesby, Nr Middlesbrough. North Riding. Sounds like you're from south of the Humber....
 
Richard.


Spot on... Grimsby but I left there 50 years ago to try (unsucessfully) to bring culture to the south.


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Life.. a sexually transmitted condition that is invariably fatal.


Posted By: Pukka Bundook
Date Posted: July 02 2020 at 6:57am
LOL Stan!


Posted By: The Armourer
Date Posted: July 02 2020 at 8:17am
Originally posted by Stanforth Stanforth wrote:

Spot on... Grimsby but I left there 50 years ago to try (unsucessfully) to bring culture to the south.
#

Its not improved since - it is still 'Grim'.
We looked at putting our boat into the harbour but it was too big for them to handle so we had to go to Hull.

Grimsby (around the harbour) is just a derelict wasteland of old industrial buildings for about a mile in any direction - tried to walk to the chippy but gave up as when we came out of the old industrial area we entered the derelict and boarded up shopping and housing streets.
There must be some nice areas but we didn't find them.


Posted By: Honkytonk
Date Posted: July 02 2020 at 2:44pm
Is this the same Grimsby as in the "Brothers Grimsby"?


Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: July 02 2020 at 4:20pm
I have a "Grimsby" 10 mile up the road from here.

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Posted By: 303Guy
Date Posted: July 07 2020 at 7:03pm
That's awesome shooting and awesome accuracy! Thumbs Up

You folks do realize of course that such groups are impossible with a Lee Enfield because it has a two-piece stock and is rear locking action and some other obscure reason.  Wink

I have a No4 that shoots pretty damn good too (can't claim 3/4 MOA 10 shot groups though since I can't get any more of the bullets that shoot so well to try with).  I can put the bullet on point of aim out to 200m though.  I can also claim 10 shot 1 1/4 MOA groups all day long with a 1902 rifle fitted with a No4 barrel without any  group centre drift.

I even achieved MOA with an old and worn Martini 303 carbine barrel on a 1896 Lee Enfield action with the original Martini sights!  Paper patched bullets to suite the worn chamber, admittedly.  I don't remember how many shots I fired though.  I normally go ten shot groups but I can't be sure in this case.  I had good eyes when I did that.  Sadly, I lost the target so I can't prove it to y'all.



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