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Topic: New Canadian Gun Laws?
Posted By: paddyofurniture
Subject: New Canadian Gun Laws?
Date Posted: April 30 2020 at 9:06am

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Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: April 30 2020 at 9:53am
Yeah, I've been waiting for this particular shoe to drop.


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Posted By: paddyofurniture
Date Posted: April 30 2020 at 10:02am
More like a kick to the groin.

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Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: April 30 2020 at 11:02am
The gun grabbers are absolute zealots, anything goes for them because they can do no wrong!


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Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)


Posted By: Canuck
Date Posted: April 30 2020 at 11:26am
The list of proposed banned firearms in Canada is to be released May 1,2020. I already have that list as it was leaked by un-named person(s). This is going to be a big fight!

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Posted By: paddyofurniture
Date Posted: April 30 2020 at 11:42am
Please let me I know what I can do to help.

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Always looking for military manuals, Dodge M37 items,books on Berlin Germany, old atlases ( before 1946) , military maps of Scotland. English and Canadian gun parts.


Posted By: Goosic
Date Posted: April 30 2020 at 11:52am
Will the list include gas operated bolt rifles?


Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: April 30 2020 at 1:49pm
Worst part is..there will be no vote on this whatsoever.Tru-dope has issued an "order in council" effectivly negating any debate. (GodD*mn rotten commie!! )

   Oh - its supposed to include a "buy-back" as well.(I didn't buy my firearms from the gov't - so what gives them the right to "buy them back"!!??

PLUS, you can bet your sweet bippy that the will offer basement prices, as the re-sale value will have dropped due to their actions!

   I already know that the Canadian AR - 15 variant is included, as is the Ruger mini-14. They don't even have a definitive explanation as to what an "assualt" weapon is!!

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Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: April 30 2020 at 2:07pm
There is one, but they don't like it.
Instead they make up crap like "semi-fully auto" instead.



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Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: April 30 2020 at 2:19pm
...and Tru-dope's minion Bill Blair, has to be the biggest goof I've ever seen!
He was the "top cop" in the OPP (That title went to his head!) I'm convinced this guy couldn't sit in a room, count his own nuts twice - & come up with the same number both times!!

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Posted By: flatheadsal
Date Posted: April 30 2020 at 3:15pm
its a Goddamn shame


Posted By: shiloh
Date Posted: April 30 2020 at 4:01pm
I really hate the Canadian political system.
This country needs to be.... by the people for the people, not by the dictator for the people.
Buy back, thats funny, the ban will become law before any buy back legislation there by negating the buy back. Because thats how things are done in Canada.
I guess I should start stripping down my AR's, that way maybe an empty serialized receive will be worth more than the some total.


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Posted By: britrifles
Date Posted: April 30 2020 at 4:30pm
Having grown up in Canada, served in the Canadian Forces for 18 years, and then moved to the US, I must confess I would find it very hard to move back.  I love my country of birth, but I hate its politics.  I’d be dammed to give up my AR and my 2 M1 rifles.  He!! They will probably ban the Ruger 10-22! 


Posted By: A square 10
Date Posted: April 30 2020 at 7:14pm
i read this was on the agenda - been waiting to hear it for real , time to rebel ? we did - we may again , 


Posted By: Marco1010
Date Posted: April 30 2020 at 7:35pm
Not wanting to get into a deep political discussion here.

looks remarkably similar to the firearms buy back scheme we had here in New Zealand. banned all semi auto centrefire rifles and restricted us to bolt action rifles and .22 semi as long as not over 10 rounds magazine capacity.

To be honest we were lucky that the buy back system was very generous with values and almost everyone I know walked away with dollars in the bank way over what they would have got normally. (most have gone out and purchased top-end bolt rifles)
many were sad to give up their semi autos , but burying them in the back yard was not a realistic option as it just means risking loosing your firearms licence for life.

Could have been worse, supposedly they were going to ban any rifle capable of holding more than 5 rounds, so that would have been the end of the Lee Enfields too.
Unlike the US of A, citizens here (and most commonwealth nations) have never had a "right to bear arms". firearms ownership is a privilage for law abiding upright citizens who prove theselves capable and safe firearms owners.


Posted By: Goosic
Date Posted: April 30 2020 at 8:26pm
There is actually millions of law abiding and upright citizens who do infact prove themselves capable and safe gun owners on a daily basis here in the US of A Marco1010. It is the unlawful and illegal gun owners that prove themselves incapable of abiding by rules. No different then where you live,or any place else for that matter. 


Posted By: 303 Hunter
Date Posted: April 30 2020 at 8:42pm
Is the M1 Garand on the list to go?

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Posted By: Canuck
Date Posted: April 30 2020 at 9:47pm
I didn't see the M1 Garand on that list at all. It is not a 'scary black rifle' to begin with. Idiot Liberal gov't.

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Posted By: Goosic
Date Posted: April 30 2020 at 9:54pm
Would you be kind enough to pm me the list?


Posted By: Marco1010
Date Posted: April 30 2020 at 11:21pm
Hi Goosic

Refreshing to see the same take on the problem from your side of the world.
Have to agree that even after all the dramas we have had down here in the last year or so, any firearms related crimes always seem to be committed by a small number of individuals who have no respect for the rest of society or the laws of the nation they live in. And its those type of persons who generally ruin it for everyone else.


Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: May 01 2020 at 7:35am
The guy used a Mini 14 & they banning the AR15 & AR10 but left the mini 14! what kind of sense (other than a convenient excuse to do what they wanted in the first place) is that?


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Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)


Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: May 01 2020 at 7:47am
Sham: Which "guy" are you referring to?

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Posted By: Canuck
Date Posted: May 01 2020 at 8:11am
The mini-14 is also on the banned list.

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Posted By: Canuck
Date Posted: May 01 2020 at 8:44am
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Posted By: Canuck
Date Posted: May 01 2020 at 8:47am
I know many fellow shooters who are impacted by these bans. Luckily for me none of my firearms are impacted by this draconian action by the Canadian federal gov't. It is a sad day for our hobby, sport and hunting community in our once great country of Canada.

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Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: May 01 2020 at 11:38am
Phew!! I didn't see the SKS on the list.

But i did see firearms on there that they "banned" a long time ago like the Thompson sub-machine gun.

Largely then..I'm not affected....THIS TIME. (You don't actually think these morons are going to stop there? )

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Posted By: shiloh
Date Posted: May 01 2020 at 11:48am
So basically, Blair looked at the world scene, mass shootings and included those weapons used, cx4 storm, really its a plinker, mini 14/30 gona be a lot of pissed owners, Ar15 type weapons all of them, but not the Macabe Defence WTF, oh well I`ll relinquish my Ar receivers and get macabe lowers, lol.
What a jug F...!!!!
Stop with the gun control and go after the criminal element, whats wrong with this gov`t, catch a criminal using a firearm, put him to his knees and put one through the back of his/her head.
THATS WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE, thats get the word out, and it would probably only need to be done once.
We have gutless authorities!!!!!!


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Posted By: Honkytonk
Date Posted: May 01 2020 at 11:55am
Hoadie and fellow Canadians. 15 years ago I would have freaked out, even though I don't own or never have owned a semi auto high power rifle. Does this clown know Remington, Browning and others make high end semi autos that are chambered in calibre's far stouter than a .223 or 7.62x39? Better not tell them! It's the old Liberal "divide and conquer".They pick out weapons the majority of people don't own (pistols, black assault types) ban them because if people don't own them, it doesn't affect them... yet. Like long gun registration, which was a collusal cluster f*%k, this will be too. And when the Conservatives get in, it will be repealed. The only semi auto I have ever owned and still do is a 35 year old Ruger 10/22 with a 10 round mag. Probably next on the list. 


Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: May 01 2020 at 1:44pm
Ah you're quoting FACTS, they have no place in a feelings driven  world.


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Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)


Posted By: Marco1010
Date Posted: May 01 2020 at 2:18pm
Down here most people grumbled like heck about giving up their semi autos, talked of burying them till the law was changed again. Griped as they felt that all the $$$ they had spent on their rifles would be lost.   THEN the government published the buy back prices they were offering..... most changed their tune then.
Myself and all my contacts in the end smiled smuggly thinking those government mugs just handed over double the $$$$ we ever spent on our long gun semi autos.
Queitly keep the amount to ourselves so the wife doesnt catch onto all the sudden cash and go out and order that top end quality bolt action rifle with an expensive scope. and still have cash in hand left over. $70 per magazine, plus $ for accesories that went with the gun. Folks came and surrendered wheelie bins full of guns that for the life of me I could not imagine a real use for unless you really believe in a Zombie Apocolpse.

Also the police are getting tough on crims with guns, raiding gangpads and drug dens. most of their guns are stolen from licenced gun owners who dont lock up the guns properly.

I do feel sorry for the people who were serious about 3 gun competition etc, but the government is looking at a means of allowing this to restart (maybe guns will be armory secured and only allowed out under controlled situations like club training and competition.

Our target species for hunting here are deer and pigs, I have never seen anyone out hunting either using an AR15. .223 scorned here in general as being too light for deer and pigs anyway.





Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: May 01 2020 at 2:44pm
If you hunt deer here w/shotgun can't go less than 20 Ga. I'd have to check..but methinks a .270 is the smallest rifle.

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Posted By: shiloh
Date Posted: May 01 2020 at 4:10pm
No mention of a buy back program... maybe later idk.
But the new program has given individuals untill 2022 to get rid of the new prohibs.
Possibly a grandfather clause??, which would be worthless if you cant use them!
But as of today,no buying, selling or transporting of the said 1500 weapons.



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Posted By: britrifles
Date Posted: May 01 2020 at 5:51pm
The govt doesn’t care how much it pays for the buy back.  It’s your money they are using, not theirs.  It’s not about the cost.  

Once they are banned, they are gone for good.  I wouldn’t celebrate the win fall.  And don’t think it will stop there, it never does.  

I shudder to think of what will happen in this country when they try and take AR15s.


Posted By: Marco1010
Date Posted: May 01 2020 at 5:57pm
I see that Justin Trudeau has been talking with our PM Jacinda. I hope that she has advised him on how our buy-back worked so at least you Canadians are not left out of pocket on the values of your rifles and accesories.

In my experience (& as having a political science degree) I wouldn't rely on a change of government reversing the process, politicians commonly say they will but then when the get elected into power they suddenly have no back-bone and come up with 1000 excuses why they can't do it.

What happened here was that a few fringe elements came out and made all sorts of wierd claims that tended to tar all honest fire arm owners as being as loony as they were. Suddenly carrying a rifle to go hunting legally started getting Joe Public all worried and calling for SWAT teams as if you were some sort of mass shooting gunman.

Heck if you have a bit of a collection (10 plus of something such as Lee Enfields) you are probably going to be looked at sideways and asked to explain why and show you have good storage security.


Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: May 01 2020 at 9:23pm
Tru-dope has put the AR - 15 (& it's various derivitives) on the banned list. To my knowledge - maybe I'm wrong -(once I thought I was wrong but I was mistaken), no crime in Canada has been committed by a licenced AR-15 owner with an AR-15.

They see what has happened Stateside, and use that as their point.

Hopefully, the Conservatives will regain power, & repeal the laws like they did before. I don't own an AR-15, so I have no stake in this fight (yet). I have 2 SKS in my locker...don't want to give without a fight..a DAMN GOOD FIGHT

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Posted By: Goosic
Date Posted: May 01 2020 at 10:59pm
Read the complete ruling. You can still own it but you can never use it and that includes leaving the house to have it deactivated. Catch 22...


Posted By: pisco
Date Posted: May 02 2020 at 6:11am
stick it to them we didn’t get a say hear in australia back in 96/97


Posted By: paddyofurniture
Date Posted: May 02 2020 at 6:34am
Give them he!! and fight for your Children rights.

I want my kids to have more rights than me.

Screw them and the mule who rode in on them.

If y'll need help writing letters to the government please let me know. My Wife is Scottish and has a master in use of the written word. She works for a Law office.

She can shoot her FN-FAL with pride.

Not a great fan of my Ross rifle.




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Posted By: Pukka Bundook
Date Posted: May 02 2020 at 6:54am
Missile launchers banned too.
Now what we gonna do this hunting season?


Posted By: paddyofurniture
Date Posted: May 02 2020 at 7:00am
Send them to me.

I will use them to hunt hogs.


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Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: May 02 2020 at 1:53pm
Yeah..I noticed that..can't have grenade launchers now, either!
(I had my heart set on taking a moose @ the cabin with one. Now I guess I gotta go back to plan "A"....landmine)

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Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: May 02 2020 at 1:58pm
Paddy: You got a Ross? If you DO value your wife..don't let her shoot the Ross.
I don't care what the pundits say..it's a danger to the shooter.(Beacause of the complicated bolt, mostly).
I still hear that old sweat's voice telling me about the guy beside him in Niagara On The Lake training in WWI. Bolt flew back & went into his head(Killing him, of course). There were alot of incidents like that with the Ross. When it worked it was deadly accurate..but like he said"It's difficult to be accurate when you roll your head to the left every time you pull the trigger." They were pretty appreciative to get them replaced with proper Enfields.!

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Posted By: shiloh
Date Posted: May 02 2020 at 2:42pm
This legislation like the one in 1998(or96?) Is an order in council and can not be repealed, signed off by the queen.
If it was reverdable im sure the conservatives would have.
Queer-deau said these rifles were designed for one purpose only, to kill people and quickly therefore they dont need to be in Canada.
The mini 14 only because some psyco killed a bunch od women with one, cx4 was a design for european police forces.
I still think this is all part of a united nations mandate to disarm the world population, its covert and we'd never be told out right. What our govt just did makes no sence.

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Posted By: shiloh
Date Posted: May 02 2020 at 2:51pm
The underlying issue is crime, and our govt dosnt seem willing to amend the law to deal with that.
If you really want one of the rifles go see the mohawks over in quebec, im sure the can get what you want. Seems the get away with it.

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Posted By: Honkytonk
Date Posted: May 02 2020 at 3:00pm
Mohawks in Quebec... running guns and cigarettes... Oka Standoff... BS about ancient graveyard... One RCMP shot and killed, no one charged... Mohawk Warriors holding 3 and 4 year olds in front of them during the confrontation with our military. I ask, if you are so dedicated to your cause, why wear a mask?


Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: May 02 2020 at 3:04pm
You don't hafta go to Quebec..you can get 'em right here. When I worked @ Newman Steel back in the 70's, the guys would put an order in for some grenades - to go fishing with. They would show up with cases!! Tried to tell 'em we only wanted 6 or so.

When they had the stand-off in Montreal (Kanesatake(?)) they had 2 1/2" machine guns on the barricade with AP ammo in the belts. The army refused to move ..for good reason!! They just run the ordanance across the river..no problem

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Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: May 02 2020 at 3:15pm
Not me!
I want the bastard to stare me in the eyes at 12X, it's a modern version of "chicken".
I will not be the one flinching.

Let me tell you a little story (true one).
My buddy & I were really heavy duty "Gorilla Divers" once.
There was no dive we wouldn't do.
We actually stood "Shark Watch" on MV Andrea Doria divers, because Mr Clarke (The man in the grey suit) was stalking them during "hangs". (decompression stops)
We'd shoot the damn sharks if they circled the divers!
Odd thing about Mr Clarke, if you blow his (tiny) brain out, he gets FASTER. To a "Knobby" the bran is a bit of a hindrance. It slows down the stimulus/response time.
It was my only "balls to the wall" 185 Gr 7.62 load. It was maximum.
You could hit them in that "vital spot" (right in front of the dorsal fin) at 25~30 FEET & they wouldn't die, but they couldn't control the rear end any more. The rest of the school would immediately attack the bleeding pack member & be kept busy as the current moved the blood trail.



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Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)


Posted By: britrifles
Date Posted: May 02 2020 at 4:13pm
The M1A is banned.  I’m surprised they didn’t ban the M1.  Not much difference in these rifles. 


Posted By: Goosic
Date Posted: May 02 2020 at 7:05pm
The Stinger Missile Launchers have been banned from public use I see.
Nothing I see that says you cannot still own the missile however...


Posted By: 303 Hunter
Date Posted: May 02 2020 at 7:14pm
Quote; Paddy: You got a Ross? If you DO value your wife..don't let her shoot the Ross.
I don't care what the pundits say..it's a danger to the shooter.(Beacause of the complicated bolt, mostly).
I still hear that old sweat's voice telling me about the guy beside him in Niagara On The Lake training in WWI. Bolt flew back & went into his head(Killing him, of course). There were alot of incidents like that with the Ross. When it worked it was deadly accurate..but like he said"It's difficult to be accurate when you roll your head to the left every time you pull the trigger." They were pretty appreciative to get them replaced with proper Enfields.! Quote
                                                                                 
I own TWO ross rifles, a 1905 and a 1910. The only one I have shoot is the 1910 (and only because the 1905 has a broken stock) and I'm still alive. Forgoten Weapons looked at the bolt issue, look it up, it is interesting.

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Posted By: Goosic
Date Posted: May 02 2020 at 8:15pm
I have found a half dozen weapons on this list,so far that are various 22 rimfire rifles and pistols. Seriously WTF?  I do not understand the thinking on this one. Yes, the semi automatic rifle is based off of the AR-15 chassis but it's a f**king 22 rimfire for christ sake.  


Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: May 02 2020 at 8:36pm
303: You can say what you want - believe what you want. It's (supposedly) still a free country.
Fact is..the people that dealt with it in real life..& people with an "interest" are two different animals.
I personally would love to have a Ross. But I would never shoot it - knowing what I know.
If it was such a good weapon, why would the federal gov't launch a lawsuit over it?

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Posted By: WilliamS
Date Posted: May 03 2020 at 12:04am
As I recall the Ross only had an issue if the bolt was assembled incorrectly.  I don't have one myself, but I've detail cleaned a few for customers.  I just made sure to put the bolt back by the book and then test fire without my head behind it.  Once that's done I felt perfectly safe settling in behind for the rest of the test-fire.

As to the .22 "assault rifles"... yep, even here in Washington state. The lowly 10/22 is an assault weapon, which so far is just a higher minimum age and longer waiting period to pick up but I'm sure they'll be going for more soon.


Posted By: shiloh
Date Posted: May 03 2020 at 1:56am
Ya i once owned Jager AP74, italian made m16 clone based on a Squires trigger group.
It ended up being a prohib so i sold it.
Was a fun accurite little rifle but no point in keeping something you cant use!

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Posted By: britrifles
Date Posted: May 03 2020 at 5:54am
We have discussed the Ross on this forum before.  And it’s fair to say the design was not suitable to the conditions of WWI.  However, the main issue was the use of WWI British ammunition which was made larger tolerances compared to the pre-war Canadian ammunition. Chambering and extraction became a problem, only made worse with dirt in the chamber and in the bolt screw threads, something unavoidable in the trenches.

The LE overcame this with large (both radially and length) chambers.  This was corrected with the Ross, but too late, it suffered irreparably in the judgement of public opinion.  

My Dad had several Ross rifles, including the Military Match target rifle in .280 Ross.  I’ve got a target Dad shot with this rifle that is impressive indeed.  

I wouldn’t hesitate to shoot these rifles, once I learned the correct way to disassemble and reassemble the bolt.  





Posted By: Goosic
Date Posted: May 03 2020 at 8:56am
Back to the original topic. 
On the list is a bolt action rifle with a 3 round detachable box magazine.  It is included because of the ammunition used, the 20mm Vulkan. ANY bolt action chambered for the 50 cal is included as well. 
It is only a very narrow leap to the next level of stupidity when someone has a brain fart and your Winchester M70 and Remington M700  become lost to the pages of time because, OMG, those were and are used by the military to kill the bad guy from a long god damn way off so it's an ASSAULT RIFLE now. What two particular bolt action rifles does the RCMP have at their disposal? The Enfield and the Tikka III correct? If it was or is used by the military in any capacity or looks like it could be a military weapon, it can be banned with a flick of a pen just like those semi automatic 22 rifles you had at one time with the simple wording of the term assault weapons. I truly feel sorry  for those of you who have to suffer under such archaic rulings. It disgusts me to know the law abiding gun owners ar paying the price for what a few or one bad guy had done in the past. 


Posted By: paddyofurniture
Date Posted: May 03 2020 at 9:12am
I have a very large special hog with a true Presidential title, Sir Fennifer of Blue Ridge. He is a breed boar.

For his Presidential services I get five dollars per piglets that is produced under his Presidential tenure.

As he is currently at the age of about fifty -five in human years he should have about twenty to thirty years of service left but, due to his Presidential services he could have a heart attack at anytime.

I AGREE TO TRADE THE HOG FOR ELECTED PRESIDENT / PRIME MINISTER .

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Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: May 03 2020 at 9:13am
the CCFR put out quite an article today, and they are calling for Blair's resignation.

Hopefully, it gain enuf steam to generate some action

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Posted By: Canuck
Date Posted: May 03 2020 at 9:17am
I joined the CCFR a few years ago, money VERY WELL SPENT!

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Posted By: shiloh
Date Posted: May 03 2020 at 11:12am
The only way any of this could change would be to throw out our govt and have Canada reformed in a way that works for the people.
Problem is we Canadians grumble alot then roll overand take it up the a$$.
Maybe its time to revolt, show the ass clowns in ottawa we're done.
These laws dont represent the majority, its the touchy feely rainbow retards that get the attension.
They certainly wouldnt want the kids with 2 dads to get run over.
They're all f**ktards.........

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Posted By: Goosic
Date Posted: May 03 2020 at 11:12am
Does anyone know if the .177 C02 HeIIboy HeIIraiser semi automatic AR looking pellet gun or the Winchester M14 .177 C02 semiautomatic M14 looking pellet gun is on the banned list? I couldn't find them. I found a full auto version of the AR15 looking .177 pellet gun too.


Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: May 03 2020 at 1:52pm
There is a maximum velocity in Canada for pellet guns. I forget what it is offhand. But if you posses one with more velocity than allowed..you will be in deep doo-doo.

Another somewhat obscure law is on blowguns. They are apparently fully taboo.

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Posted By: Canuck
Date Posted: May 04 2020 at 6:28am
Hoadie I believe that is 1200 FPS. I have a pellet rifle (Ruger Blackhawk) that requires a PAL to own.

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Posted By: Honkytonk
Date Posted: May 04 2020 at 7:59am
I was going to buy one to control rabbits in the city eating my peas and I believe in Canada any bb or pellet rifle or pistol that propels a projectile at 600 ft/sec requires a PAL. Hence so many advertising 590 ft/sec... I suspect if crono'ed, they're a tad sportier than that. Kinda like when muscle car companies downplayed HP for customer insurance reasons.


Posted By: paddyofurniture
Date Posted: May 04 2020 at 8:29am
I have a large orange cat that takes care of rabbits and others outside pests.

Some time the pests are to large for the cat. He comes with twin pit bull back up.

If that does not work he calls out the mule.


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Posted By: Honkytonk
Date Posted: May 04 2020 at 9:21am
I grew up with cats, never had a dog. I would love a good mouser (not that we have mice) but my wife is Uber anti-pet!


Posted By: paddyofurniture
Date Posted: May 04 2020 at 9:48am
Just tell her, and it is true, people who own cats and dogs live longer.

Just ask her this question, " what do you like better in the house a live mouse or a dead mouse? ".

Also having a cat keeps your food supply safer and if you have a house fire a cat goes nuts.

When I was little about six and I lived in Navy housing one of the room electric heaters started to smoke. Out cat sounded like a tank trying to get out of the house.

Everyone was asleep and we all got out fast! 


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Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: May 04 2020 at 1:02pm
September.1955: My mom's black cat (Ebbs -short for Ebony) saved my life.
I was outside in my little crib. The subdivision was new..carved out of orchards. Big rat came up out of Walker's creek, & was making right for me. (Normally, big rats are more than a match for a cat.) My mother caught a glimpse of the rat as it was heading toward me (she was in house doing dishes). By the time she got to the back door, Ebbs had already taken the throat out of the rat & was dragging it to the door. The rat was easily twice his size. Having been born at a very early age - I don't remember this episode.

Ebbs was cool..6 toes on each paw. Later on we took Ebbs north to my grandmother's to live(Victoria Harbour). he lived out his long life up there fishing & hunting. He was jet-black. Pretty cool cat.

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Posted By: paddyofurniture
Date Posted: May 04 2020 at 2:27pm
Cats are a lot to our lives.

Well worth our life to have them with us.


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Posted By: Goosic
Date Posted: May 04 2020 at 3:44pm
Raven on the left, Chance on the right...


Posted By: paddyofurniture
Date Posted: May 04 2020 at 4:32pm
As no one I know of these days eats black jelly beans I use them with a sling shot. 

With a wrist rocket and black jelly beans you can send pests off to someone else yard.

I used to use steel ball bearing but it you run over a steel ball bearing with a lawn mower it becomes a bullet.

GREAT for killing free rats!


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Posted By: A square 10
Date Posted: May 04 2020 at 6:08pm
huh , i rather like the black jelly beans myself , but there are a couple others ii would readily use as cannon fodder 


Posted By: Stumpkiller
Date Posted: May 04 2020 at 7:54pm
I have a t-shirt that says "We got rid of the kids.  The cat was allergic."

Have seven (God help us) rescue cats currently.  Oldest to youngest: One "Tuxedo" from a dumpster at a Duncan Donuts,  one super-friendly tiger that had been chewed up and what we feared was a tumor turned out to be a kidney outside the muscle but under the skin, one three-legged black cat that had a measured 14" of stitching (on a half-shaved two month old kitten) done pro-bono by a vet - the shelter knew we took in "problem" cats.  You never saw a sorrier cat.  He's huge now (Moe - needs one 'moe leg).  One found eating greasy McDonalds litter in a ravine (long-haired black female - beautiful cat now - not so much then), one last survivor that was a mess from a litter that had been wiped out by a Rottweiler and, at four weeks +/-, needed a LOT of TLC.  And finally two from our barn.  We get "presents" and a mother cat was hanging around I assume dropped off like the tires and Christmas Trees good Christians leave along our road frontage.  We set out food.  One day I found a tiny black kitten in our chicken coop and something had torn a flap of skin loose on his throat.  He was a mess (sound familiar).  I took him in and "farmer doctored" him up with the same first aid/medical cabinet I put together for our sheep (and myself more than occasionally).  

THE ADMIRAL said "he's not coming in the house" so out he went to the barn.  Well, one day I saw him in the front yard at the same time THE ADMIRAL saw him in the back yard.  Twins!  And eventually we spotted a very cautious gray kitten.  We put the word out and did get one adopted off.  The black male by then had gotten so he would sit on my lap on the back deck and follow me around the homestead.  Friendly cuss.  The gray skedaddled whenever we were out.  Got to be about 10 weeks from when we had first seen the (no sign of mom for two months) and we didn't want a new batch, so we started calling around to see who might neuter strays.  Turns out NO ONE in this area does.  So we negotiated with our current vet and got a agreement that we would get the two cats in, no prior exam, no bloodwork, just as short and dirty a job as "ethical" ( I miss our first vet who would castrate males while you held them, struggling).  By then we had them coming for food.  The black one was easy.  He didn't mind being picked up.  Happily I had the forethought to put on cuffed leather gloved for the gray (female).  HOLY CRAP!  This 10 or 11 week old kitten shrieked and bit down on my finger like a pair of pliers and did all she could to rake my guts out with her hind legs.  I could not believe the strength in this little floof!

Well, that was last fall.  Tonight as I watched the news that gray girl was curled on my lap for an hour.  She just loves head skritches,  Sweetest little thing and a beautiful little Maltese with copper eyes (Gracie).  Her brother, Tink, the opposite of knit as he loves to help THE ADMIRAL with her knitting is as pleasant a guy as you could ask for and on his way to being a big cat.  Even more amazing is they both get along with all the other fur hobos hereabouts. 

Oh, and one Airedale Terrier who tries to keep the cats from having it too soft.  He loves to play "try and scratch my eyes out while you have the high ground" (aka: couch) with the longhaired black female (Cricket) and, I gotta say, he is FAST!


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Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: May 04 2020 at 8:44pm
What? Are you some kinda cat lover?

(Dogs have owners...cats have "staff")

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Posted By: Pukka Bundook
Date Posted: May 05 2020 at 5:56am
The moggies are Stumpkiller's "Emergency Rations", Hoadie.
 
So true!!..."Cats have" Staff"!!


Posted By: Canuck
Date Posted: May 05 2020 at 11:26am
Getting back on the thread topic....it has been announced today, May 5,2020 that 10 gauge shotguns and 12 gauge shotguns with screw in chokes are now banned!! The reasoning is without the choke installed, the 12 gauge barrel diameter exceeds the new 20mm requirement. Also, firearms that exceed a power output of more than 10,000 joules is prohibited. Say good bye to your big bore hunting rifles like the 460 Weatherby, etc. The feds once again LIED about not touching hunting firearms in their new ban. I expect a revolt, in fact I hope there is a revolt!

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Posted By: Goosic
Date Posted: May 05 2020 at 12:04pm
Your statement. (The reasoning is without the choke installed, the 12 gauge barrel diameter exceeds the new 20mm requirement.)

This would indicate that all 12 gauge rifles not choked would be banned. My Winchester 1400 MkII has a rifled slug barrel that would be considered  a definitely banned item. If anyone wants it PM me. I stuck a Ted Williams choked barrel on it instead cuz bunnies is year round here...


Posted By: 303 Hunter
Date Posted: May 05 2020 at 12:20pm
So my side-by-side 12 gauge is now banded?

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Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: May 05 2020 at 12:20pm
..and the aboriginals are allowed to keep their ARs??

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Posted By: Canuck
Date Posted: May 05 2020 at 12:33pm
Hoadie, they only mentioned removable chokes. Check your shot guns, measure the inside diameter. I checked my shot guns they measure under 20mm, even my Mossberg 590A1. You should be okay with your side by side but do measure it.

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Posted By: Canuck
Date Posted: May 05 2020 at 12:34pm
Fellas, remember it is the inside diameter not the outside diameter. The feds are dumb as a bag of rusty hammers! Imagine shooting a choked shotgun without the choke installed? The threads would be obliterated in quick fashion.

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Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: May 05 2020 at 1:53pm
I don't have a side by side Canuck..(& I don't have a 10Ga, either.) My 12 Ga Winchester 1300 is a semi auto, modified.

Still...when bad government enacts bad legislation - UNILATERALLY - it must & WILL lead to "opposition". Bad government must be removed by the people!
   

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Posted By: Canuck
Date Posted: May 05 2020 at 2:31pm
I second the motion!!! Third and fourth if needed!

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Posted By: Canuck
Date Posted: May 05 2020 at 7:18pm
*UPDATE* The minister responsible has issued a new statement concerning 10 and 12 gauge shot guns. Here is the statement. "
Bill Blair
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Earlier today, the Canadian Shooting Sports Association issued a statement alleging that our government is banning 12 and 10 gauge shotguns. This is absolutely incorrect and we will be reaching out to them to correct their misunderstanding.
Both 10 and 12 gauge shotguns are under the 20mm provision, and thus not subject to the prohibition. Our government is taking action to protect Canadians by banning assault-style weapons – not those used for hunting. The truth matters."

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Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: May 05 2020 at 9:01pm
As I said in a previous posting: "You dont think they will stop there?"

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Posted By: Whitjr
Date Posted: May 06 2020 at 12:28pm
That’s quite the dilemma you have up there.  Hope no-one down here in the USA gets that list.

Are the guv’mint culprits taking your handguns too?


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Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: May 06 2020 at 2:12pm
Oh yeah!@ Hanguns have been heavily restricted since like - 1925. As time goes by they seem to get stricter & stricter.(I'm licenced for handguns..but the hassel just aint worth it. I took my Navy Colt B/P back stateside years ago.)
The hoops a handgun owner has to jump thru here is nothing less than stupid!

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Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: May 06 2020 at 3:09pm
I hear they're hastily pulling back from the ridiculous "20mm" rule now someone explained to them that a 12 bore with no choke is NOT an Aden Cannon!
I remember the whole "nothing over "49 caliber" [sic] thing here. They had no idea that a musket was frequently fitted with a bore "in excess of half an inch, so it could shoot down aircraft" rubbish.


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Posted By: shiloh
Date Posted: May 07 2020 at 8:12am
Originally posted by hoadie hoadie wrote:

..and the aboriginals are allowed to keep their ARs??


And if this is true, how is that not a double standard!
Are the not Canadian citizens.
That in its self is grounds for revolution.

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Posted By: Canuck
Date Posted: May 07 2020 at 9:57am
I think its a human rights violation. JT just stepped into his own s**t pile.

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Posted By: paddyofurniture
Date Posted: May 07 2020 at 11:04am
Send a letter to jt and tell it you need your gun right to protect Canada from foreign invasion.

The States did it at least twice, next it will be the chi-coms.

We all need to defend our Countries. 


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Posted By: britrifles
Date Posted: May 07 2020 at 6:01pm
So answer this.  After the ban of those horrible “assault rifles” and the murders with firearms continues, what do they ban next?




Posted By: paddyofurniture
Date Posted: May 07 2020 at 6:23pm
It never ends.

If someone sat on someone else face and smothered them then jt would be banded.


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Posted By: WilliamS
Date Posted: May 07 2020 at 6:31pm
Originally posted by britrifles britrifles wrote:

So answer this.  After the ban of those horrible “assault rifles” and the murders with firearms continued, what do they ban next?



Well, next I'd wager it will be those nasty high-capacity shotguns - you don't really need more than two she!!s for bird, do you?  And after that those super powered sniper rifles, after all a 30-30 can take a deer so you don't need anything more powerful than that. And then any lead ammo - for the environment, and health, don't you know like they are doing in California. 


Posted By: Stumpkiller
Date Posted: May 07 2020 at 6:44pm
Originally posted by britrifles britrifles wrote:

So answer this.  After the ban of those horrible “assault rifles” and the murders with firearms continued, what do they ban next?
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Sharpened metallic knives.

Fatty foods.

Cars with manual steering and lacking "robot" automated driving and full-time active restraints.

Free thought.



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Posted By: Honkytonk
Date Posted: May 07 2020 at 7:07pm
The only thing they need to ban in Canada and I suspect in most all other countries is the root cause of gun violence... immigrants that do not respect life and peddle dope... not one politician will come out and say it. Except perhaps Max Bernier. Get rid of the drugs, gun violence gone. Make immigration about people that can better your country and not about asylum. The asylum scam has allowed other counties to rid themselves of the bad apples. Like when Castro emptied the jails and Looney bins and sent them all to the US.


Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: May 07 2020 at 8:55pm
...& don't forget he sired Justin!(So he spread the pain equally)

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Posted By: Honkytonk
Date Posted: May 08 2020 at 8:53am
Hoadie... I believe there's a bit of Rolling Stones in there also!


Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: May 08 2020 at 9:20am
..yeah..but methinks she swallowed that one!

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