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Topic: Almost ready to start...
Posted By: Bear43
Subject: Almost ready to start...
Date Posted: May 21 2020 at 8:36am
I have all the tools, brass, bullets, powder and primers. All that is left is to build a bench and mount the press. I plan to do that over this long weekend. Since I am going by the Hornady book load data I am using Winchester primers, Frontier cases and the Hornady 174 gr round nose soft points for the first batch. For powder I got a pound each of IMR 4064 and Accurate 2520. The first rifle to try out my rounds will be my 1917 BSA Mk III*. It's known to be pretty accurate with surplus and various factory ammo so I figured it would be a good rifle to start with since I already know it's shooting potential. This has been a heck of a learning experience with a lot more learning to come.



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Posted By: paddyofurniture
Date Posted: May 21 2020 at 10:22am
Originally posted by Bear43 Bear43 wrote:

I have all the tools, brass, bullets, powder and primers. All that is left is to build a bench and mount the press. I plan to do that over this long weekend. Since I am going by the Hornady book load data I am using Winchester primers, Frontier cases and the Hornady 174 gr round nose soft points for the first batch. For powder I got a pound each of IMR 4064 and Accurate 2520. The first rifle to try out my rounds will be my 1917 BSA Mk III*. It's known to be pretty accurate with surplus and various factory ammo so I figured it would be a good rifle to start with since I already know it's shooting potential. This has been a heck of a learning experience with a lot more learning to come.

Hey Bear43,

I have a book you might want to peruse called, " The Shooter's Workbench", by John Mosher, published by Winchester press.

https://www.idsabooks.com/pages/books/2796/john-mosher/the-shooters-workbench" rel="nofollow - https://www.idsabooks.com/pages/books/2796/john-mosher/the-shooters-workbench

Do you want me to send it to you to read and return?

Ed

PS Do not tell Hoadie  as this book contains photos.


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Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: May 21 2020 at 11:33am
If it doesn't have nude pigmys..I aint interested anyways!

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Posted By: paddyofurniture
Date Posted: May 21 2020 at 12:21pm
Originally posted by hoadie hoadie wrote:

If it doesn't have nude pigmys..I aint interested anyways!

Time to send a alert for all our members to help Hoadie to wear really thick glasses.


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Always looking for military manuals, Dodge M37 items,books on Berlin Germany, old atlases ( before 1946) , military maps of Scotland. English and Canadian gun parts.


Posted By: paddyofurniture
Date Posted: May 21 2020 at 12:27pm
Hoadie,

Sent you a pm.


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Always looking for military manuals, Dodge M37 items,books on Berlin Germany, old atlases ( before 1946) , military maps of Scotland. English and Canadian gun parts.


Posted By: Bear43
Date Posted: May 22 2020 at 3:56am
Paddy, I'll take you up on that offer. I'll PM my address to you.


Posted By: paddyofurniture
Date Posted: May 22 2020 at 7:23am
I will do



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Always looking for military manuals, Dodge M37 items,books on Berlin Germany, old atlases ( before 1946) , military maps of Scotland. English and Canadian gun parts.


Posted By: Stumpkiller
Date Posted: May 22 2020 at 7:53am
Enjoy yourself!  I find reloading to be a great zen exercise to clear my mind and uncoil from outside problems. 

Don't forget good lighting is a must.


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Life is not about how fast you run, or how high you climb, but how well you bounce.


Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: May 22 2020 at 2:45pm
Before you build the bench let me ask you an odd question.
How do you intend to reload, seated or standing?
I ask because I can not reload sitting, I have to stand.
Because of that I took a tip from a lab bench builder (not shooting, chemical testing)
His tip was to build to the height of the tip of your bent elbow in whichever posture is "right" for you. Most benches are designed for a sitting height.
Mine has the main workspace at 38 1/2", perfect for me while standing, no stooping & back pain at all.
I tried a "Tallboy" bar stool with it once, but its still sitting so no go for me. Thats it off to the left hand side!
To give an idea of scale thats an 8' long ply for the bench-top!
Oh & make a cutout for the press so its slightly recessed & VERY well supported. You'd be amazed how much torque is applied to the mount by compound leverage!




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Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)


Posted By: A square 10
Date Posted: May 22 2020 at 8:09pm
i stand as well , just feels right even though i could sit if i chose , 

my setup is not quite as nice as the photo shamu provided , im ashamed of mine save it works well , im operating in an unused bathroom as of now - convenient at times and a bit tightly crowded others because its small , but i manage what little i do , at least its climate controlled with decent negative pressure when i turn on the fan , i can take a break - get a refill of water , wash my hands and load all of my rounds without leaving the room , there was i time when i had a darkroom setup in the similar space but im not shooting photos these days and there is not the chemical scent , i rather like the change , 


Posted By: britrifles
Date Posted: May 23 2020 at 4:37am
My bench is lag bolted to the wall and legs are screwed to the floor (wife wasn’t thrilled about that, had to cut a 4x4 square out of the carpet).  Two layers of 3/4 inch birch plywood glued and screwed together with oak 1x3 on the edges.  Nice and solid.   I have the opposite problem as Sham, I can’t stand in one place for more than 30 mins, have to sit down.  






Posted By: Honkytonk
Date Posted: May 23 2020 at 5:40am
Both very nice loading stations. Yes, you can lift a bench off the floor on the upstroke on the press! I made sure the height was right so no strain on my back, and I like to stand up. Mind you, I have an old single stage press and routinely only work on 30-40 rounds at a time. 


Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: May 23 2020 at 7:41am
Mine isn't actually bolted down, its so flipping heavy its anchored by gravity!
That tends to happen when you have 1 1/2 sheets of 4'X8' 7-ply & a bunch of 2X4 glued & screwed into one unit!
Star


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Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)


Posted By: Bear43
Date Posted: May 23 2020 at 8:42am
I plan to be standing at the bench so I have plans to build it high enough to be comfortable. Mine will have to go in the basement as my "gun room" is just too small for it. I already have a dehumidifier going down there and I will keep the powder and primers stored in the gun room until ready to use.


Posted By: A square 10
Date Posted: May 23 2020 at 7:41pm
excellent on both the storage and the build to suite your comfort , you want to be able to operate safely and without discomfort , the dehumidifier will be critical for successful results , you are going to enjoy this experience , it will make you in control of your shooting as you have never felt before , some things in life give you that comfort but this one is so real that you will never regret it only expand it as you find the need , what a great adventure to be on , 


Posted By: Stumpkiller
Date Posted: May 25 2020 at 7:08pm
I have a small bench affixed to the wall studs in my basement with legs added for support.  To the left is a small multi-use surface I keep for case work or arrow fletching, etc.




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Life is not about how fast you run, or how high you climb, but how well you bounce.


Posted By: A square 10
Date Posted: May 25 2020 at 8:28pm
nice setup , you keep it more orderly than i keep mine , i need to get better at that , 


Posted By: Bear43
Date Posted: May 26 2020 at 8:14am
I didn't get to work on the bench over the weekend. Instead it was all family visits and a cookout. It was pretty nice to visit with my dad, stepmom and some friends. Now I can concentrate on this bench thing though. I am pretty excited on this. I really want to see the difference handloads will make in some of my rifles.


Posted By: Honkytonk
Date Posted: May 26 2020 at 8:55am
Bear. I don't shoot near as much as some on the forum, nor am I as proficient, but I'll tell you a little story that made me a believer in finding the right round for the rifle. I purchased a No4 Mk1 L42A1 clone (full length barrel in great Nick, .303). It looked like a real shooter. I took it to the range and at 100 yards shooting 180 gr Sierra Prohunters, could only manage about. 6" group. I repeated this process several times, same results. I use 150's in my Sporter and it is a wonderful rifle. I never thought to try 150's in this rifle. I did, and like magic, I can consistently get 2" groups using Hornady Spire points. All because of a bullet change. I wonder, over the years, how many people bought Lee Enfields, bought a box of factory 180 ammo, didn't group well and just wrote the rifle off?


Posted By: Bear43
Date Posted: May 26 2020 at 9:12am
I imagine that has happened a lot. I do plan to fine tune and keep good records to find what works best in each one.


Posted By: britrifles
Date Posted: May 26 2020 at 11:13am
I’ve never gotten those Sierra 180’s to shoot well at all, not in my Fulton No. 4 with BSA 5 groove barrel or in my Dad’s T which has a Long Branch C Mk 4 6 groove barrel; both shoot the 174 SMK very well.   Bullet selection is probably the most important part of reloading (next to the safety concerns of course).  Two groove barrels may be more tolerant to some bullets, three of the grooves were omitted from the standard 5 groove resulting in a large circumference at bore (not groove) diameter.  The 2 groove will even shoot .308 bullets well. 


Posted By: Zed
Date Posted: May 26 2020 at 12:21pm
Bear are you going to start reloading for other calibres as well?
.303 is a good place to start though.

If reloading for pistols such as .45ACP, you need to pay attention to the case volume. Depending on the type of powder used you can potentially get two doses of powder in one case! I use Vectan BA10 for .45ACP, and it only half fills the case. So need to be careful if your do it by hand and not on a rig such as the Dillon; that will automatically rotate the case to the next stage.
With the rifle loads the case is generally filled so if you accidentally start doubling up; you'll get powder all over the bench!


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Posted By: Bear43
Date Posted: May 26 2020 at 2:49pm
I will just stick with rifle calibers for now. I still need to pick up a set of dies for .30-06. Maybe eventually I would consider reloading for 9mm but that's pretty cheap and easy to get yet so I'm not sure on that.


Posted By: shiloh
Date Posted: May 26 2020 at 4:25pm
All i can say is, its fun, relaxing and fullfiling.
Shooting your own loads is rewarding to say the least.
I also thought about reloading 9mm, but the commercial stuff is cheap enough now to justify not to.

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shoot em if you got em


Posted By: A square 10
Date Posted: May 26 2020 at 7:39pm
Bear , dont buy 3006 - there is a set of dies coming with the stuff im bringing you , a set of 303 as well as some other items i thought you needed ,  


Posted By: Bear43
Date Posted: May 26 2020 at 9:19pm
Oh man, A Square, that is awesome! Thanks a ton!


Posted By: The Armourer
Date Posted: May 27 2020 at 12:13am
Originally posted by A square 10 A square 10 wrote:

Bear , dont buy 3006 - there is a set of dies coming with the stuff im bringing you , a set of 303 as well as some other items i thought you needed ,  


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