Edits/Revisions:

14 Jan 2021 added Ishapore 7.62 and L8 series rifles (and equivalent) to Class 1 Service Rifle.  Allow sitting at bench unsupported for Service Rifle Class and .22 Trainer Class.  Clarified types of iron sights allowed. 

3 Jan 2021 added scoring method

31 Dec 2020 added a Third Class, .22 Trainers

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In this post I will kickoff the Enfield Rifles Forum Virtual Match.  Those who are willing and interested will have a friendly match and submit photos of your target to this Topic.  

The goal of the match is to encourage our members to get out and shoot your Lee Enfield rifles.  There are no awards given other than your own personal satisfaction of doing your best and enjoying these rifles at the range.

 I thought about which rifle class they would be more appropriate for and decided they are closer to the service sights on No. 4 rifles than they are to scopes.  They really don’t provide any advantage over the No. 4 Mk 1 service sight at 100 or 200 yards.  They do put the No. 1 rifle on more even footing with the No. 4 Rifle.  

Targets available here in small quantities for just $5.00

https://tjtarget.com/product/black-sr-1-rifle-targets-100-yard/

However, if we want to be able to compare our scores against each other, we have to use the same target.  You had a photo of a SR-1 target next to the Dirty Bird, can you reshoot your 7.62 conversion on that SR-1 target?  I’m suggesting we leave this “event” open for all of 2021 and at the end of the year, give recognition to the top scores of each Rifle Class.  If this catches on, we can continue this each year. 

Hopefully I'll actually get to a range which is open this year!

I have another reservation for next Wednesday and I get three free SR-1 targets everytime I show up so, yes I can reshoot it.

I don't know how well I do but sounds like fun.

Ill have to get some targets together, weather's not bad around here.

One suggestion! How about a 50 metre or 50 yard target for the .22 trainer's! using the C50 type target.

There is a SR target  reduced to 50 yards available online as a download (should be able to tweek it to 50 meters) I have used it to practice offhand with my 22

This sounds fun, but unfortunately the club I belong to has shut down the ranges again because of the Ontario lock down, tentatively in effect for the next 28days.

I have edited the first post to add a .22 Trainer Class.  

Glad to see the interest building up.  

The SR Target is not very challenging in the prone position (the SR target is really intended for Standing Slow Fire and Sitting Rapid Fire), however, for relatively inexperienced shooters, it gives them an achievable goal to shoot a “clean” score (100 points with a high X ring count).  Someone like you may be able to shoot 100-10x on this target.  If it becomes to easy, we can change the target to the NRA MR target reduced to 50 yards (also available on the ray-vin web site for printing.  If you shoot 100-10x on that, you need to be on the Olympic Team!

The .303 Long Branch with scope would be fine for the “unlimited” class.  

I’ve tried to keep the Class definitions broad and inclusive enough such that almost any Lee Enfield rifle can be used.  The intent of the Class 1 Service Rifle is for those rifles that are essentially close to the “as issued” configuration with allowance for aperture sights such as the PH and AJ Parker and shot prone as they were in Service Rifle Matches.  Rifles with scopes can be shot off the bench under Class 2 Unlimited.

Handloads are allowed for Class 1 and 2.  

If there are several members wanting to have a scoped .22 Class, we can do that too...

I will probably shoot my CNo. 7 Trainer, it has the original rear sight which is windage adjustable. I need to find a 50 yard range....

Im going to shoot the SR-1 target because I can get twice as many targets for the same cost. Over at the club somebody locked up the target cabinet and they're holding the key in secret or something.

When I ordered them I got the same amount of black pasters as I did buff. Ill have a life long supply of black pasters if anything at all.

Im going to use either a no 4 or a no1 mkIII

Try here for targets:

https://tjtarget.com/product/black-sr-1-rifle-targets-100-yard/" rel="nofollow - https://tjtarget.com/product/black-sr-1-rifle-targets-100-yard/

I'll be shooting my No. 4 MK I in the unlimited class.

 

I'll probably be shooting it this summer once it's back from the gunsmiths shop.

Goosic, setting the optic at 1x will be fine, that “is in the spirit” of the rules for no magnification for shooting the Service Rifle class.  However, if your SR-1 Target scoring ring diameters are as I provided in the first post, that is a target intended for 100 yards.  You can find SR Target reduced for 50 Yards on the Ray Vin website and can print that for free, it will be approx half the size of the NRA SR-1 target. 

Thanks, I'd wondered about that. Inward scoring it is then.

(time to rush out & buy one of those cute little magnifiers on a .30' pointy thing then.)

No problem here.

When I first started getting scores from U.S. matches I couldn't believe the scores.

Then it dawned on me they were inside scoring, we were outside scoring!

Its amazing how much difference it makes! Re score some old targets if you don't believe me.

However when using the 10m air rifle targets, the hole is always in more that one score so score the highest broken line.

I had to pick the US NRA method as this is how the electronic scoring system is set up at the range I shoot at.  

My attempt at the virtual match. I must confess that I shot it unsupported, at 50 metres, with SR reduced for 50 yrds targets, but I used a sitting position. We got 60 cm of snow the week before so a prone position was a bit messy. I was shooting my Lee Enfield Canadian No. 7 and Lee Enfield No. 8. The No. 7 is as issued, the No. 8 has a diopter sight set up. T'was all good fun until my trigger finger got cold.

Looks to me that both scored 99, but I can’t tell how many are in the X ring for the No. 8 rifle, looks like at least 4x.  The No. 7 also looks like a 99-4x.  

I think you may find that an ongoing challenge! That's why we shot on THESE:

For 25 yd .22 matches.

NOTE: NOT to scale!

Rifle:  No. 4 Mk 1/3 Long Branch, Mk 1 Service Sight

Load: 40 gr Varget under 174 grain Sierra MatchKing, WLR primer, PPU case, 3.05 in OAL

Shot on NRA SR Target, 200 yards prone with sling (no support).  I did not dress warm enough, it was 37 deg with a 10 mph wind from the North.  Not an excuse, but I think it did affect my shooting. 

No sighters, no warming shots.  My first two shots were high in the 10 ring so I came down one click on the rear sight.

Score was 100-4x.  

The rapid fire time of 80 seconds starts with the shooter standing with 5 rounds in the magazine and bolt closed on an empty chamber.   You must first get into the prone position and also perform a magazine reload after shooting the first 5 rounds.  It’s plenty of time, once you get used to the pace.  

If I shoot this target with my Long Lee, which category would I shoot under?

The forend is chopped, and it has a Peddy rear sight.

 

Best,

Richard.

One using RWS Match ammunition and the other SK Match.

Due to there only being one free space available when I arrived; which was a bench.

 So I had to shoot from sitting position, with elbows on the bench (without extra support).

This rifle is totally standard with original iron sights.

First time with this type of target; so not great; but I would say reasonable for a standard 102 year old rifle. 94/100 with the SK ammo  and 92/100 with the RWS. 

I will have to try again from the prone position.

While prone in sling is the most stable, as far as I’m concerned you can shoot the Service Rifle and .22 Trainer class in any position as long as you don’t use a support under the rifle.  If you want to shoot off a bench with support (sandbags or rest) you can shoot in the Unlimited class.  

Shooting in the “sitting” position means to me that your sitting down on the ground.  Sitting in a chair with elbows on a bench is “shooting off the bench”.  

 For the Unlimited class, I’m expecting everyone will shoot off the bench with support (a rest, sandbags, etc.).

I tend to shot prone just with the sling as support. 

Can we enter in each class? 

I got my targets in today. I don't expect to clean any targets but getting into prone is not my primary concern.

It's getting back up  and being able to focus on the front site clearly!

Ill have to remember center- center- center and throw in a little line of white hold for my British rifles.

It'll be fun to get out and do some shooting no matter what happens.

Looking forward to having some fun.

Doco, glad to hear you are joining in.  I find just regular reading glasses (“cheaters”) to be effective to see the front sight, doesn’t matter that the target is fuzzy.  I also use the 6:00 hold with just a sliver of white showing between top of foresight and bottom of black aiming mark.  Some shooters effectively use a “center mass” hold, it doesn’t work for me. 

Just found out that Rso`s only are able to use the range during this enhanced lock down, so I may book some time and do some 303 shooting.

I think the range has the appropriate targets.

So how many times can one submit targets during this competition?

I`ll be shooting No.1 MkIII(no*) 1915, iron sights and No.5 Mk1, 1944 iron sights, both in SR and unlimited, seated at the bench as this is our only option, elbows and sand bags if that`s OK

Both these rifles are full military stocked with their original sights, I cant see worth poop, so this should be interesting.

Can I make my own sr-1 targets, cant find any online and I dont have a printer?

Just need addition spacing specs for 8,7,6 rings

The full dimensions of the SR-1 Target score rings are (per the US NRA Highpower Rules handbook):

Rings in Black      Rings in White

X     1.35             8    9.35

10   3.35             7   12.35

9     6.35             6   15.35

                          5   18.35

For shooting off the bench, not likely you will need scoring rings out past the 8 ring.  We all should be able to keep the hits “in the black” on this target.  

Would a PH Lee Enfield scoped sporter count in the unlimited class. Its a custom No1 built on a 1918 Lithgow action, still working on its referb.

Was thinking maybe using it as well.

Heres my first attempt with the 1915 MkIII, at the bench off my elbows unsupported, 100yrds, pitiful.

My poa was 6:00 on the 9 ring, need to elevate the rear sight a bit and get new eyes...lol

Spent most of 1hr trying to zero the No5 with no luck so won`t be using it, it just looks purdy, maybe put a scope back on it and try to squeeze some decent groups out of it.

You might find it better to take a 6:00 point of aim (the top point of the vertical post reticle just a hair below the bottom of the black 9 ring).  Use the horizontal reticule to help keep a constant distance between that and the bottom of the target frame and help keep the rifle level.  

Now see if you can get that group shrunk down to 100-10x, I think you can do it...

Unless you have exceptional eyesight, the 6:00 hold is your best bet.  My vision is pretty bad, I’m almost to the point of framing the target with the front sight, that means taking a high point of aim covering the aiming mark and keeping equal distance of white target all around the front sight.  But, you need to be able to lower the rear sight enough to make this work.  

The CMP Vintage Sniper Match is shot on the SR Target at 300 yards and the MR Target at 600 yards.  Your rifle would hold the 10 ring of the SR Target at 300 yards (7 inch diameter 10 ring) based in what i see on your SR-1 target. 

I did use a blk circle pinned to the target, and no sir my eyes are at a distinct disadvantage basically having to wear glasses to see, blind as a bat without them. At least I hit the target... lol

At any point I may wait till my PH is done and scoped and carry on with that one.

Note that the heavy barreled 7.62 rifles (L39, L42, Envoy and Enforcer) are Unlimited class only. 

Today I shot LE service rifle SR-1 target prone with sling.

I pulled out a Savage No 4 for today's target. I think I shot this rifle about a year or so ago and started out with the rear sight bottomed out. I count 86 0x with one class C hit, got a flyer in there! lol

What ammo were your shooting? 

Looks like with a front sight adjustment, you will gain some additional points.  

Are the top two shots touching the 10 ring?  Is so, count them as 10’s.  

Its only one that I could tell for sure that was touching. The other was close, but not quite- I didn't think it was enough, so I just left off.

I used some of that German MEN surplus when I bought a couple cans  back when it was around.

Afterwards when I went home and cleaned the bore I looked and realized the FS was left of a little pencil mark I had left on the base, about one and half blade width.

It was calling for rain so I just grabbed my stuff and headed out to the range to get an entry in.

I was going to grab a better sling that I move around to some different rifles and be better prepared but ran with what was left on that rifle.

The upper loop is on the last set of holes with all the clothes I had on under my coat and I swelled up some from weight I put on when my legs started going bad.

The old girl was laughing at me but we had a nice trip over and back. Grabbed a coffee and all that.

Thanks for getting the virtual match started, it was nice to get out and make some holes again.

I'm going to get some others out of the dungeon and go back again real soon.

Load is 174 gr SMK, 39.0 gr. Norma 202, WLR primer.  

Score is 100-7x.  Group size center to center extreme spread 3.7 inches.

Here’s a shot of the monitor target overlay zoomed in to the 9 ring, two shots just outside the x ring, missed a 100-9x by a hair.

Pic is a bit fuzzy, but you should be able to make out the 200, 300 and 600 yard lines.  

200 yard SR Target shot prone with my Mk 2 DCRA, PH 5c rear sight.  Score 100-6x. First five shots a bit high, had to come down a few clicks on the rear sight. 

Excellent demonstration of skill in marksmanship.

I'm going to pull another rifle out and get up to the range to sling some lead for participation.

I was using Sierra 168grn TMK bullets with 40.0grns of N202 and primed with WLRM primers.

One thing you could try is aiming at the bottom of the black, it might be a more repeatable point of aim.  

I re-barrelled a BSA No 1 mk III* with one of the new Sarco barrels that were available in the past, fit new draws into a DP stock and swapped over to a windage adjustable rear site about a year ago or so. The BSA rifle is the second entry for the Virtual match and is for the Sr 1 target category.

Doco, I count a 95-1x and a 92.  Not sure on the second target, hard to tell on two of the shots it they touched the 8 and 9 rings or not.