Lothar Walther barrels?
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Topic: Lothar Walther barrels?
Posted By: AbitNutz
Subject: Lothar Walther barrels?
Date Posted: July 19 2021 at 8:59pm
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I've heard about the Criterion barrels but I wasn't aware that Lothar Walther were offering barrels for the No 4 MK1. Has anyone tried one or know anything about them? At $369.00 they sound reasonably riced unless there is a ton of work to do to them. https://www.lothar-walther.com/new-2021/1445/enfield-no.4-mk1.303british-mud.596-l-25.23-cr-moly-steel?c=7" rel="nofollow - https://www.lothar-walther.com/new-2021/1445/enfield-no.4-mk1.303british-mud.596-l-25.23-cr-moly-steel?c=7 |
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Posted By: britrifles
Date Posted: July 20 2021 at 3:26am
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I’d buy one or two. If they are actually available. Seems to only require a chamber finish ream. I sent them an inquiry. |
Posted By: britrifles
Date Posted: July 20 2021 at 5:57am
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Lothar Walther responded to my query. That was fast! They said the barrels are short chambered, require finish reaming. That’s it. I’m going to order one. I also have a new Criterion barrel I’ve not installed yet. |
Posted By: AbitNutz
Date Posted: July 20 2021 at 6:11am
I was shocked how fast they responded as well and that they said the barrels were in stock. The delivery time she said was 48 hours so I pulled the trigger on one, so to speak. I've never owned a Lothar-Walther barrel but it has to be better than to shot-out rusted tube I have on my No 4 now. Here are the specs off the web page. Nothing in super detail. It just says Chrome-moly for the steel. She confirmed it was short chambered, as you stated.
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Date Posted: July 20 2021 at 6:46am
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I also ordered one. Very fast service. I’m curious on what the width of the lands are. I think the .314 groove depth works on Enfield rifling because the lands and grooves are equal width. Narrow lands would give a larger mean diameter of bore and groove. |
Posted By: Zed
Date Posted: July 20 2021 at 9:12am
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Good to see these are available. One question! Where do you get a reamer for the chamber? ------------- It's nice to be important, but it's more important to be nice! |
Posted By: AbitNutz
Date Posted: July 20 2021 at 9:58am
| I'm pretty sure they can be readily rented at several places. |
Posted By: britrifles
Date Posted: July 20 2021 at 11:06am
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I bought one from Manson Precision. I had them shorten the position of the shoulder slightly, no need for so much space between case and chamber at the shoulder. Very reasonable price too, I think I paid $125. But I had to get them to turn down the reamer handle so it would fit into the receiver. |
Posted By: Zed
Date Posted: July 20 2021 at 11:18am
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That's great; so you are set up to do the barrel change yourself. I believe you are free of "proof" certification in the USA, is that correct? ------------- It's nice to be important, but it's more important to be nice! |
Posted By: britrifles
Date Posted: July 20 2021 at 1:14pm
| Yes, no restrictions of replacing barrels. I’ve done two M1 barrel changes and removed/reinstalled the barrel on one of my No. 4’s so I could refinish the metal work. That barrel was on there very tight! Had to heat the receiver. |
Posted By: britrifles
Date Posted: July 20 2021 at 4:14pm
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They are shipping my No. 4 barrel tomorrow. Outstanding service. I asked them if they keep No. 4 barrels in stock, and Rebecah told me they usually do and she is putting another order in from the Germany facility tomorrow. I don’t think they will export outside the US, but presumably those in the EU should be able to get a barrel direct from the German distributor. Not sure what is available in the AU, NZ and SA.
I’m not taking any chances here, I want to be able to shoot competitively for at least another 10 years and not have to worry about not finding a barrel. |
Posted By: AbitNutz
Date Posted: July 20 2021 at 4:58pm
| I haven't received an email with the tracking number yet. I just ordered a NOS #0 bolt head. It's an early BSA marked with a 0 and a B. I want to start out as tight as I can. I have bolt heads all the way out to #3. It doesn't help that the chamber is shaped like a goose egg. |
Posted By: britrifles
Date Posted: July 20 2021 at 5:23pm
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Once you get the headspace set, I doubt you will see any change, even after shooting thousands of rounds. I know this because I’ve monitored the headspace on my No. 4, from after the barrel was first installed (with a #1 bolt head), I’ve not been able to detect any change even after 8,000 to 10,000 rounds fired. I’ve seen the same with my No. 4 Mk 2 7.62 DCRA conversion which I’ve shot several thousand rounds thru it. I think we worry too much about headspace at times. The only real advantage with having a relatively tight headspace is to maximize the number of reloads of the cartridge case. Some claim accuracy is better with a tight headspace, but I can’t confirm that claim. Now, if you push your reloads to the limits, you might expect headspace to increase after a few thousand rounds. This is best avoided by using mild reloads.
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Posted By: AbitNutz
Date Posted: July 21 2021 at 9:49am
| I just received an email from Lothar-Walther with my invoice and UPS tracking number. It should be here in the next couple of days. Once I receive it and the new bolt head it's off to the gunsmith! |
Posted By: WilliamS
Date Posted: July 21 2021 at 9:52pm
| Lothar-Walther makes excellent barrels, although I haven't tried their No4 ones yet. They won't sell the No1 barrels in the US though, I think I've only asked about it 3 or 4 times.... at this point I'm about ready to pay the import fees to buy a batch from a foreign distributor. |
Posted By: britrifles
Date Posted: July 22 2021 at 5:25am
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Barrel is arriving today by UPS. |
Posted By: britrifles
Date Posted: July 22 2021 at 6:31pm
| That’s amazing, barrel arrived three days after I first heard about these barrels being available. Thanks to AbitNutz. |
Posted By: AbitNutz
Date Posted: July 22 2021 at 6:45pm
| Mine is supposed to be here tomorrow. UPS must be speedy in your area. I'm in Ohio. Thinks sometimes run slower here. |
Posted By: britrifles
Date Posted: July 23 2021 at 6:27am
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They are in Cumming, GA, not far from where I live. I’m going to use Birchwood Casey Perma Blue for the finish.
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Posted By: AbitNutz
Date Posted: July 23 2021 at 4:30pm
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I received my Lothar-Walther barrel today. I'll be driving it over to the gunsmith next week. It's a 4 groove barrel and when compared to the pitiful 2-groove, more like 1/2-groove, shot out old barrel of my No 4 MK 2, it's a beautiful thing. It has the bayonet lugs and appears to have the correct contour. It's in the white so I'll have it rust blued. I know it should be parkerized but it's too pretty and it's far past original now. We'll figure out how to affix the Parker-Hale tunnel front sight without butchering the barrel. I'm hoping the dovetail can just be recut to the correct size. I'm going to get the action cleaned up a bit and use a NOS #0 BSA bolt head. The stock is in nice enough shape. I'll have to work on exactly the best way to bed it. I've never messed with bedding a two piece stock. let alone a No 4. With any luck at all I may be able to improve on the previous best of "minute of trashcan lid" size groups. Man, they could go anywhere. sometimes I wonder if it was safer to stand in front of it than behind it. Ok, that's not true but my complete inability to make improvements made me crazy.
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Posted By: Zed
Date Posted: July 24 2021 at 1:10am
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Looking forward to seeing your progress on this project. Keep us posted. With photos please. ------------- It's nice to be important, but it's more important to be nice! |
Posted By: britrifles
Date Posted: July 24 2021 at 5:22am
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I’ll be interested too to hear how the installation goes, if any issues with correct indexing to the receiver. I’m hoping it will be a while yet until I need to replace the barrel on my match shooter. |
Posted By: str8shutr
Date Posted: July 24 2021 at 7:06am
If you're interested, check out T-Bone Shipwrighting down in Coogee (suburb in Sydney, near the beach). Tom Smith puts up regular posts on Fartbook of his work that include LW barrels. Offers a fair showing of Enfield rebarrels. Based on that example, you should be happy with the result.
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Posted By: AbitNutz
Date Posted: July 24 2021 at 10:24am
| My gunsmith is an a$$hole so there won't be any in progress pictures. I'll see if I can get him call me as it progresses and take pictures. He's an a$$hole but he's a capable a$$hole and he's local. |
Posted By: Zed
Date Posted: July 24 2021 at 10:57am
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If you're stuck finding a good Lee Enfield gunsmith in the USA,then you should talk to Brian d**k at BDL. He has an excellent reputation apparently. ------------- It's nice to be important, but it's more important to be nice! |
Posted By: AbitNutz
Date Posted: July 24 2021 at 4:46pm
| I did talk to him. Unfortunately, he doesn't do barrels that are short chambered. He only installs them if they are fully chambered and ready to be installed. |
Posted By: DRG1953
Date Posted: July 06 2022 at 9:48am
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I need to know from anyone who has re-barreled a Lee Enfield with either the Criterion or Lothar Walther barrel-------- what diameter bullet was used ?? .311 or .312 ? It's a LONG story but I used Sierra Match kings sized .311 for
years and on a good day I could put 80% inside 1 MOA but about 4 months ago my groups stared opening up
considerably. I tried a number of things then I tried the last
21 Hornady FMJBT's I had kicking around for over a decade that
were sized .312 and the groups tightened right up again
(They were a bullet Hornady made for Graf that they no longer
make )
Sadly nothing I have tried so far will shoot .311's with any
accuracy any longer The problem is in a reply from Lothar Walther they suggested .312's were the preferred bullet for .303 ( news to me but I have looked on the CIP webpage and sure enough it's 7.92mm which is 0.3118101 which is as close as you can get to .312 without it being 0.3119 ) =================================================== Dear Don,
as a barrel manufacturer, we can not recommend specific
types of projectiles. The barrels are made as per CIP standard
for caliber .303 British.
The CIP states a projectile diameter of 7,92mm (.312").
Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Sincerely Yours
Feinwerkzeugbau GmbH
Andreas Missler
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So..... I am looking for someone
who has re-barreled with either a Criterion or Lothar Walther
to see what sized bullet they used and what kind of groups they were getting...... there is NO POINT in
me replacing the barrel only to find I need to use .312's to
make it shoot well as I already have a 1944 vintage barrel that will, and Hornady hasn't made any more .312s and nobody can tell me when they will ..... both Criterion and Lothar Walther use
the same SAAMI .303 bores and .314 grooves specs
Don |
Posted By: britrifles
Date Posted: July 06 2022 at 10:40am
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I have a new Criterion and a Lothar Walther barrel, but have not installed either one yet, so I can’t provide you with a definitive answer. I have heard other shooters that have not had good success with .311 boattails in worn .303 Enfield barrels, but I’ve not experienced this problem. I can’t imagine why a .311 bullet would not shoot accurately in a Criterion or Lothar Walther barrel, although it’s certainly possible it will do better with one over the other. Is your barrel a 2 or 5 groove? |
Posted By: britrifles
Date Posted: July 06 2022 at 11:51am
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Here is an article from Criterion announcing the No. 4 barrel. Says that Hornady 174 gr FMJ bullets were used. Hornady makes a .3105 FMJ. But they also make a 174 .312 BTHP. https://criterionbarrels.com/media/prototype-criterion-lee-enfield-barrel-wins-nzsra-national-match/?v=7516fd43adaa" rel="nofollow - https://criterionbarrels.com/media/prototype-criterion-lee-enfield-barrel-wins-nzsra-national-match/?v=7516fd43adaa |
Posted By: DRG1953
Date Posted: July 06 2022 at 11:51am
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It's a 2 groove Longbranch I am getting poor groups with both .311 Sierra Match kings which are boattail and Sierra 180 Pro hunters that are flat base but when I tried the last Hornady 312's I have , the group tightened right up again. ( well.... except for those two in the white but with the .311 80% were in the white)  Normally I consider .311 the standard 303 but that reply from Lothar Walther saying .312 was the standard and both Lothar Walther and Criterion build barrels to the current SAAMI specs which is .303 bores and .314 grooves |
Posted By: scottz63
Date Posted: July 06 2022 at 11:56am
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I am on the waiting list for a Criterion No. 4 barrel. I talked to them and they told me it is not scheduled yet, but should be coming later this year. ------------- 14EH AIT Instructor-PATRIOT Fire Control Enhanced Operator/Maintainer |
Posted By: DRG1953
Date Posted: July 06 2022 at 12:04pm
Yes they do make .3105 FMJ. and they used to make a 174 .312 BTHP but if you check their 2022 PDF catalogue the Item 3131 that used to be .3105 now shows being .311 https://i.imgur.com/9mCKqoY.png" rel="nofollow - https://i.imgur.com/9mCKqoY.png So WHO KNOWS which one they used. I have asked and have not had a reply yet
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Posted By: DRG1953
Date Posted: July 06 2022 at 12:06pm
That's what they told me as well which is why I started looking into the Lothar-Walther
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Posted By: britrifles
Date Posted: July 06 2022 at 5:28pm
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FWIW, the SAAMI drawing for the .303 British shows the bullet diameter as .3125 - .003, so bullets from .3095 to .3125 are within specification. I’m inclined to think that the article from Criterion was referring to the Hornady .3105 FMJ bullet, as the .312 is a hollow point boat tail and would not be referred to as a “FMJ”. And that shooter won the 600 yard match…so likely shoots quite well. Reynolds book does indicate that .312 bullets shot better than .310 bullets, particularly in barrels with bore and groove diameters at the upper limit. 2 MOA from a No. 4 with original barrel should be considered quite good. If 10 shot groups exceed 3 MOA with handloads, then I would be looking for a new barrel. Going to be tough to find a NOS No. 4 barrel, 2 or 5 groove. I know there was at least one member who installed a Criterion barrel, can’t remember who it was. Have you slugged the bore on your No. 4? Would be useful to know the bore and groove diameters. |
Posted By: DRG1953
Date Posted: July 06 2022 at 6:03pm
.......and that is who I am hoping to have a conversation with
No I have not. I worked well and then it didn't and slugging it at this stage is just curiosity. I KNOW .311's won't shoot well in it any longer and .312's will but the decline in accuracy didn't happen over night but over 4-6 weeks so it became apparent progressively over 150-200 rounds as I was shooting it at least 30-40 rounds a week for the past two years so it was noticeable because nothing else had change....same bullet, same load, no crown damage.... it just stopped shooting well but as soon as I put the .312's through it I was back to what I was used to seeing........ the problem is there are no .312's available to run further tests and I have over 1200. 311's sitting on the shelf so before I re-barrel I want to hear from someone who has with either the Criterion or the Lothar Walther because I want to know that .311's shoot well with them or did they have to use. 312's |
Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: July 06 2022 at 7:29pm
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"Hornady makes a .3105 FMJ" I believe its designed for the 7.62X54R. But they work very well for me in the 303, when I can find them. Don't seat to have the crimp groove sit for crimping though (I don't crimp anyway) to get the right feed length it needs to be about 1/8" in front of a correctly trimmed case. ------------- Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force) |
Posted By: britrifles
Date Posted: July 07 2022 at 6:43am
Sure wish we could help on this. You might try and call Criterion support staff and see if they have any customer feedback on the use of .311 bullets. If it works in a Criterion barrel, it will likely work in a Lothar Walther barrel too. Your 2 groove barrel may be shot out, we have seen reports that accuracy can fall off quickly once the throat erodes to a certain point, the bullet not entering the rifling in line with the bore. The bullet shape and diameter of the Hornady might give you a bit longer life out of the barrel. The 5 groove BSA barrel on my Long Branch has upwards of 10,000 rounds thru it and will still hold 1.5 to 2 MOA ten shot groups in prone with sling with the .311 SMK. But a 2 groove may be different, and it may have had a lot of Cordite shot thru it, I’ve only shot perhaps 30 rounds of Cordite ammunition thru mine. I’m expecting the Criterion and Lothar Walther barrels will shoot great with a .311 SMK, I sure hope so because I’ve got about 12,000 of these bullets! |
Posted By: britrifles
Date Posted: July 07 2022 at 7:28am
| One other possibility. I recall Brian d**k telling me a few years back that he was involved with the Criterion barrel development and they had sent him a test barrel. I just sent him an email asking if he installed it and test fired it, and if so, if he remembers what bullet he used. It’s not a Lothar Walther barrel, but both have the same bore and groove diameters. |
Posted By: britrifles
Date Posted: July 07 2022 at 10:28am
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I heard back from Brian. He did test fire a Criterion barrel using a 174 SMK handload. He was quite happy with the accuracy. He thinks a .311 bullet will shoot just fine out of a Criterion or Lothar Walther barrel. He charges $150 for a barrel replacement, but will only install barrels that are fully chambered (not barrels that are short chambered). |
Posted By: Goosic
Date Posted: July 07 2022 at 10:37am
| Bruno's Shooters Supply has at least 800 rounds of the Hornady GR BTHP .312" projectiles sitting on a shelf that I am/was factually aware of. Unless someone has purchased them as of this posting however. I traded them for the 200grn Lapua .3105" FMJBT... |
Posted By: DRG1953
Date Posted: July 07 2022 at 12:09pm
They don't show them in stock now so somebody has scooped them up. Doesn't matter though as there is the issue of shipping components to Canada that's the big impediment I have one more test to try but I think I will be getting the L-W barrel as waiting until an indeterminate time when/if Criterion making more is worthwhile is hit or miss. The Smith I've bee working with up here said he was told last winter it would be this summer..... now it's " later this year" we could be hearing that next year too. Thanks for mentioning it though
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Posted By: DRG1953
Date Posted: July 07 2022 at 12:43pm
......and that is pretty much exactly what has happened..... it worked..... then I started getting unexplainable flyers ( 4 - 6 inch flyers ) then the next 10 rounds might be good then a weird flyer then half the shots were flyers This was a good day not that long ago  Then starting late April the groups started getting worse with no change in load That target above was shot with 174 SMK's So was this about a month ago  note there are only 9 holes...... one went somewhere else IDK where and this was with .312 Hornadys five minutes later  So yes, I'm thinking it's shot out for .311s FWIW I had those .312 still around because I stopped using them in 2010 because the cases were showing flattened primers with virtually the same load as that last target which showed NO signs on the primers whereas 174 SMK's at the time did not and I kept them around specifically if something like this started to happen and that proved to be a good decision........I just wish I had kept more of them. I have no idea how many rounds may have been put through my Enfield before I got it but it was not beat up in the least. That said I think I probably put 4000 rds through it mostly in the last 2.5 years
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Posted By: britrifles
Date Posted: July 07 2022 at 2:14pm
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Wow, that’s pretty dramatic and I suspect you have diagnosed correctly. I’m confident the LW barrel will shoot the .311 SMKs very well, under 2 MOA. What is your current load? Are your shooting with service sights or a scope? |
Posted By: DRG1953
Date Posted: July 07 2022 at 3:59pm
Scope. I had been using a Parker-Hale but my eyes just aren't good enough any longer as it came down to trying to get that fuzzy thing at the end of the barrel matched up with the fuzzy thing 100m away and it just wasn't working out the way I wanted any longer so I went to a scope with both the Enfield and the K98 Mauser and that made everything MUCH more worthwhile I am using a BadAce tactical no tap no drill scope mount and a Vortex 4-16X44 FFP scope. I am VERY happy with the BadAce mount and their customer service is second to none. It bolts in without having to alter ANYTHING https://www.badacetactical.ca/collections/feature-products/products/lee-enfield-no-drill-scope-mount" rel="nofollow - https://www.badacetactical.ca/collections/feature-products/products/lee-enfield-no-drill-scope-mount http://www.badacetactical.ca/collections/ndt-mount-for-mausers/products/best-mauser-k98k-scout-mount" rel="nofollow - https://www.badacetactical.ca/collections/ndt-mount-for-mausers/products/best-mauser-k98k-scout-mount I use 40 gn of either RL-15, IMR 4166 or Varget..... depending on what's available. Right now I only have some Varget left. My preferred powder is RL-15 but I have not seen that available locally to me in a couple of years. 40 gn of IMR 4895 also works and I have lots of that For the Mauser the same powders but 42gn- 44gn
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Posted By: britrifles
Date Posted: July 07 2022 at 5:15pm
| Your loads are exactly the same as mine. 40 gr with a 174 gr bullet. Re 15 or Varget, both work exceptionally good in the .303. I’ve got 8 lbs of 4166 but not tried it yet. My Varget supply is dwindling, down to about 10 lbs now, so will have to go back to Re 15 or IMR 4166. |
Posted By: DRG1953
Date Posted: July 07 2022 at 6:39pm
| IMR 4064 is another one I have used a lot. Also 40 gn for 303 and 42 for 8mm. Have Recently tried 47 gr of H4350 but that was after things started going wrong so not a good test but it's the same load as the one used for the prototype Criterion barrel in New Zealand |
Posted By: jshaf00
Date Posted: July 14 2022 at 9:23pm
| Super curious about this subject would very much like to know if you all received your barrels and how they look, and if you got them installed and reamed. let us know what equipment you all used to accomplish the job how it head spaced and how it shoots. post some pics !!!! |
Posted By: Moosm14
Date Posted: October 16 2022 at 2:02pm
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After rescuing an abused K98 Mauser that needed rebarreling, along with extensive restoration, I sourced a Lothar Walther barrel chambered in 7.62x51 and put together a faux low turret sniper. Subsequently I reached out to both Lothar Walther and Criterion inquiring if a limited run of No.4 barrels in 7.62x51 might be possible without success ------------- There is room for all of gods creatures ... right next to the mashed potatoes |
Posted By: britrifles
Date Posted: October 17 2022 at 11:26am
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My new Criterion and Lothar Walther barrels are still sitting on the shelf. I have the necessary tools to install the barrel and finish ream the chamber. As long as the accuracy on my No. 4 shooter holds with the .311 Sierra MatchKing, I’ll postpone replacement. Moosm14, did I understand you correctly, Criterion and Lothar Walther have no plans for another production run of No. 4 barrels? |
Posted By: pisco
Date Posted: October 17 2022 at 10:25pm
| I bought one for my no1 mk3 only used cast bullets so far haven’t had time to shoot it since |
Posted By: scottz63
Date Posted: October 18 2022 at 10:31am
Last I heard from them Criterion is going to make another run in the future. They did not give me a date. ------------- 14EH AIT Instructor-PATRIOT Fire Control Enhanced Operator/Maintainer |
Posted By: Moosm14
Date Posted: October 18 2022 at 5:23pm
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I had inquired to both manufacturers as to the possibility of making a run of No 4 barrels in 7.62, as they already had the CAD and tooling set up for No 4 barrels in 303. (The K98 barrel I received from Lothar Walther chambered in 7.62 is one of my most accurate MilSurps) Neither Criterion or Lothar Walther responded as to the requisite number needed to consider a run in 7.62 ------------- There is room for all of gods creatures ... right next to the mashed potatoes |
Posted By: DRG1953
Date Posted: October 19 2022 at 12:18am
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What I was told a by Criterion couple weeks ago was..... "We do not have a firm estimate yet but it should be sometime next year" and "We operate on a first come first serve basis. All orders are shipped in the manner that they are ordered. This would cover any existing orders and hopefully restock our inventory. " That said, in the early summer they were saying later this year and in spring the gunsmith I spoke with told me he was told last year they were going to making more this summer so MAYBE they might have more surplus stock to draw from......MAYBE and when next year is anyone guess
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Posted By: Goosic
Date Posted: October 19 2022 at 6:09am
I had spoken to Criterion about the possibility of making a limited number of No4 barrels in 308 in which I would pay up front for one of them. Their reply was that for them to even consider doing that I would have to commit to purchase a minimum of 250 barrels at a wholesale cost of $18,750.00 USD...
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Posted By: DRG1953
Date Posted: October 19 2022 at 7:19am
Interesting------ that would make each barrel for a custom 250 barrel run worth $75 USD each.. "wholesale" and at that cost they would be making money. "Retail" cost of an Enfield barrel from Criterion is $349.99 – $394.99 USD That said, there is a lot more to converting a .303 Enfield to 7.62 than just the barrel
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Posted By: scottz63
Date Posted: October 19 2022 at 11:38am
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That's a ridiculous markup. ------------- 14EH AIT Instructor-PATRIOT Fire Control Enhanced Operator/Maintainer |
Posted By: Goosic
Date Posted: October 19 2022 at 11:51am
 
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Posted By: scottz63
Date Posted: October 19 2022 at 11:54am
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What bolt head and extractor do you use? Or do you modify the existing? ------------- 14EH AIT Instructor-PATRIOT Fire Control Enhanced Operator/Maintainer |
Posted By: Goosic
Date Posted: October 19 2022 at 12:01pm
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The face of the bolthead is trimmed back accordingly is very small increments until proper headspacing is achieved. The extractor claw I use is for the 2A1 Ishapore. It gives a deeper grasp of the 7.62 cartridge...
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Posted By: scottz63
Date Posted: October 19 2022 at 12:14pm
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Cool. I was thinking some 2A1 parts might be used. Speaking of that, I need to find a spare extractor for my 2A1. I don't like not having spares. ------------- 14EH AIT Instructor-PATRIOT Fire Control Enhanced Operator/Maintainer |
Posted By: DRG1953
Date Posted: October 27 2022 at 2:11pm
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I have been waiting for Hornady to make .312's again and I use Graf's as the " canary in the coalmine" with the idea that if Grafs doesn't have it nobody does I was just auto notified HORNADY 303/7.7MM(.312) 174gr BULLET RoundNose 100/BX is back in stock at Grafs.com Item #: HRN3130 Price: $36.99 It doesn't do me any good in Canada right now but it does mean some actually exist if anyone had been waiting for them
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Posted By: scottz63
Date Posted: October 28 2022 at 10:00am
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Again Criterion responded back to me and said they planned another run of barrels, but have no date set. ------------- 14EH AIT Instructor-PATRIOT Fire Control Enhanced Operator/Maintainer |
Posted By: lawndart
Date Posted: December 15 2022 at 1:13pm
| How does the 2A1's extractor need to be modified to fit the No.4 bolt head? |
Posted By: lawndart
Date Posted: December 15 2022 at 1:14pm
| For your conversions, have you always used proper conversion magazines, or have you been able to get away with anything else? |
Posted By: Goosic
Date Posted: December 15 2022 at 5:00pm
| Either the CR141A or 2A1 magazine. |
Posted By: Goosic
Date Posted: December 15 2022 at 5:14pm
You file or grind a bevel on each side of the bottom of the extractor where the screw goes into. Standard No4 extractor on top in the first picture and to the left in the second picture.
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Posted By: lawndart
Date Posted: December 16 2022 at 7:18am
Looks really easy. Thank you! Lawndart
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