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Is there a "target front sight'?

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Topic: Is there a "target front sight'?
Posted By: AbitNutz
Subject: Is there a "target front sight'?
Date Posted: July 20 2021 at 9:23pm
I have a very nice Parker-Hale sight on my No 4. Is there any sort of front target sight available to match it? Or is everything more or less one piece and not easily changeable? 



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Posted By: britrifles
Date Posted: July 21 2021 at 3:53am
The front sight protector, sight blade and sight base can easily be removed.  A tunnel type front sight was made by Parker Hale, and probably others too.  I don’t have one, I use the original front and rear sights for vintage military rifle competition target shooting.  Once you get used to them, they are surprisingly accurate.  


Posted By: AbitNutz
Date Posted: July 21 2021 at 9:53am
I don't doubt the originals are accurate. I'm just very used to the sight picture the globe or tunnel front sight give you from several other rifles I have. Any information on where to obtain one would be greatly appreciated. I'm getting a new barrel for this rifle so now is the time to do something. 


Posted By: Goosic
Date Posted: July 21 2021 at 10:22am
Check eBay under the search parameters of, "Parker Hale Sight."
There are a couple listed.


Posted By: AbitNutz
Date Posted: July 21 2021 at 10:32am
Thank you sir! You are a prince. I just ordered what I needed. Coming from the UK it may me a little slow but that's exactly what I wanted. Again, thank you!
 


Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: July 21 2021 at 10:49am
Lucky devil! How I wish there was one for the SMLE! Unhappy


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Posted By: Zed
Date Posted: July 21 2021 at 1:11pm
I have one of those on my L39A1. It's a good system when used with the match rear sight.

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Posted By: Honkytonk
Date Posted: July 21 2021 at 3:34pm
How is this site installed on a Lee Enfield? I assume it replaces the stock front site and must require some drill and tapping.


Posted By: Goosic
Date Posted: July 21 2021 at 3:49pm
Slip on friction fit or soldered on...


Posted By: Honkytonk
Date Posted: July 22 2021 at 6:45am
Goosic. I suspect that means the above PH front site cannot be used without removing the front "ears" and stock sites? 


Posted By: Goosic
Date Posted: July 22 2021 at 9:05am
If you are referring to the front sight protector and sight base on a No4 then you would be correct. 
To install this particular setup correctly, you would have to remove the bayonet lugs and the lugs the original sight base slid over. 


Posted By: Goosic
Date Posted: July 22 2021 at 9:23am
I found a PH1front globe sight for my application. The original rifling is junked and I knew I was going to use the .22 tube so I filed off the bayonet lugs and the sight base lugs. Silver soldered the new sight base on and there ya' go.


Posted By: AbitNutz
Date Posted: July 22 2021 at 9:27am
I was hoping to mount it this way.


Posted By: AbitNutz
Date Posted: July 22 2021 at 9:29am
I can't see the details of exactly how this is affixed. I'm hoping to be able to this rather than clean off the whole front end of the rifle.


Posted By: Goosic
Date Posted: July 22 2021 at 10:09am
That one pictured you are showing has the dovetail cut for the Enfield sight base and the sight base is cut flat across the top as well. The PH1 and the FS22 Matchmaker globe sights can be found with the Enfield dovetail and sometimes you can find the Enfield modified No4 sight base too...


Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: July 22 2021 at 1:40pm
Yes they exist as a direct replacement for the blade. This does make them rather high though so you'll be dialing in lots & lots of clicks on the rear to compensate.


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Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)


Posted By: AbitNutz
Date Posted: July 22 2021 at 1:44pm
So to be more confused. Does the sight shown in the first picture in this post showing the sight on eBay represent the picture that I posted? Or is it different? I thought that they were one in the same. 


Posted By: AbitNutz
Date Posted: July 22 2021 at 2:09pm
Well, if nothing else the Parker-Hale 5C has lots of clickidge.


Posted By: Goosic
Date Posted: July 22 2021 at 2:45pm
Originally posted by AbitNutz AbitNutz wrote:

So to be more confused. Does the sight shown in the first picture in this post showing the sight on eBay represent the picture that I posted? Or is it different? I thought that they were one in the same. 
The eBay picture shows the AJP Matchmaker,"identical to the Anschutz globe sight"with 17mm inserts. It will not fit on a standard Enfield sight base, which is why the the one pictured comes with its own sight base...


Posted By: AbitNutz
Date Posted: July 22 2021 at 5:35pm
Ah, OK. Here is what the eBay description says. I should have read it more closely.

adaptor to fit the dovetail . this is bored to 17mm to fit .303 no4 barrels however i have successfully drilled one to 18mm to fit my martini henry and they can be used as a basis to modify to fit most round barrels by someone with basic metalwork skills . i fixed mine with epoxy resin so that in future with a little heat it can be removed from the barrel .
NOTE will not fit over bayonet lugs .

It does look like the barrel lugs will have to be removed in order to make this work.


Posted By: AbitNutz
Date Posted: July 22 2021 at 5:39pm
I'll have to figure out how it was mounted in the picture I posted. I'm not going to saw off the barrel lugs or remove the ears. The gunsmith I use is a pretty handy machinist. There must be a way of making an adapter to make it like the one in the picture.


Posted By: capt easy
Date Posted: September 18 2021 at 1:15am
The setup in your second picture looks like a Lyman 17A with it's dovetail filed to fit the Enfield
No4 base.I did it several years ago and it's a "LOT" of filing,but it looks good & works+++it's only around $60 & comes with it's own set of inserts.

Best wishes,
capt. easy



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