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Topic: Need Help Identifying
Posted By: commuter05
Subject: Need Help Identifying
Date Posted: July 27 2021 at 1:42pm
I inherited this from my father-in-law.

I don't know much about it, but would like to repair and complete a restore.

Need front sight bead
Rear sight and sight screws
butt plate and spring.

This appears to be a carbine as the furniture doesn't extend to cover most of the barrel.

Pics show the following markings
No4 MK 1/3 (F) FTR
/51.85C2904
S No4 Mk1
U.S. Property
(top of barrel towards the breech) England



Replies:
Posted By: Goosic
Date Posted: July 27 2021 at 6:17pm
What you have is a Savage made No4Mk1 that was FTR'd (Factory Thorough Repaired) and upgraded to have the trigger hung from the butt socket/wrist. The factory furniture has been cutdown into a sporterized configuration as well as the barrel looks to have been cutdown past the bayonet lugs. If the full length of the barrel is still intact, you have a perfect candidate for returning it to its original appearance. 


Posted By: britrifles
Date Posted: July 27 2021 at 7:25pm
the photo may not be showing the full barrel length.  Close the bolt and insert a cleaning rod (carefully) from muzzle end into the barrel until the rod hits the bolt head.  Mark the cleaning rod at the end of the muzzle and remove the rod.  Measure the length of the cleaning rod to the mark, if it is 25 1/4 inches, you have a full length barrel which should include the front sight base (pinned to the barrel), sight protector and front sight blade. 







Posted By: britrifles
Date Posted: July 27 2021 at 7:27pm
Fourth photo does seem to indicate end of barrel may have been cut, lugs for front sight base and bayonet don’t appear…


Posted By: Goosic
Date Posted: July 30 2021 at 7:14pm
Commuter05.
If it were my rifle. I would invest in a rear Mk1 micrometer sight and a Remington front ramp sight. Have a gunsmith mount the sights accordingly and you're 
Golden...



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