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Topic: Afghanistan
Posted By: Zed
Subject: Afghanistan
Date Posted: August 26 2021 at 11:27pm

Afghanistan is a complicated  country. The big question is why did it take 20 years to get out? 
It seems obvious to me that the Taliban would take control as soon as  the International community pulled out. 
They went in to get Bin Laden. Should have pulled out when that job was done. 
The Russians could not get rid of the Taliban, I don't see how we could with all the restrictions of engagement forced on the coalition troops. It's like cancer; if you can't cut it all out, you know it'll be back.
What is sad is why so many soldiers lost lives and limbs for such t sh*thole!



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Posted By: Stanforth
Date Posted: August 27 2021 at 1:42am
Just look at history.
The British tried top pacify the area in the 19th. Century without result.
Then came the Russians, the Nato.

Results.... NIL


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Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: August 27 2021 at 12:34pm
Let me suggest something.
Lithium.
Yep the stuff in batteries.
It practically floating the country.
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In 2007, six years after the United States sent troops to Afghanistan, the U.S. Geological Survey (USGS) published a preliminary https://pubs.usgs.gov/fs/2007/3063/fs2007-3063.pdf" rel="nofollow - assessment of the country’s mineral resources , excluding energy sources like oil and gas. In 2010, Afghanistan’s mineral wealth was estimated to be worth $1 trillion.

Among the country’s resources are lithium and rare earth elements (REEs), both critical for electric vehicle batteries and tech devices like smartphones. Iron ore and copper were estimated to be present in quantities that were large enough to make the country https://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/14/world/asia/14minerals.html" rel="nofollow - a major global producer of both .

Last year, The Diplomat published an article by Ahmad Shah Katawazai, a member of Afghanistan’s Academy of Sciences and a former diplomat at the Afghan embassy in Washington, D.C., that raised https://thediplomat.com/2020/02/afghanistans-mineral-resources-are-a-lost-opportunity-and-a-threat/" rel="nofollow - the estimated value of Afghanistan’s minerals to as much as $3 trillion."




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Posted By: Marco1010
Date Posted: August 27 2021 at 1:57pm
Afghanistan is one sad nation. the only people who can tackle its problems are the Afghani's themselves.
So many nations have had attempts to govern / assist Afghanistan through history, it's now a long list.  Many see Afghanistan as a sort of "no-mans land" buffer zone between the surrounding states. and they all stir the pot from the edges.  Its a backward hermit state where tribal links are stronger than any other political force.  It will take some immense national upheaval to trigger a move in another direction.  Biden is right to get out, the US, NATO and other countries involvements (including New Zealand) didn't produce any long-lasting improvements other than give many of the Afghani's a false hope of a better future.
The Taliban will find the same , their last effort started falling apart, this time the cracks are already appearing in their rule and they only just got to Kabul.


Posted By: Zed
Date Posted: August 28 2021 at 12:42am
Hopefully the younger generation who have tasted a bit of freedom will rise against this backward regime. But I doubt that will happen anytime soon. 
Regarding the mineral deposits; I'm sure the Chinese government are clapping their hand's.


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Posted By: Frameman 1
Date Posted: August 28 2021 at 1:00am
Originally posted by Zed Zed wrote:

Hopefully the younger generation who have tasted a bit of freedom will rise against this backward regime. But I doubt that will happen anytime soon. 
Regarding the mineral deposits; I'm sure the Chinese government are clapping their hand's.
In the short term I agree you are correct, however the  idea “ The enemy of my enemy is my friend” won’t last long. The Chinese don’t tolerate Muslims at all well.  


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Posted By: Zed
Date Posted: August 28 2021 at 6:28am
Agreed; but they will grab the minerals. Same as they are doing in Africa. Make new road's to impress the locals; when they are really just facilitating transport to the mines. More destruction of the Planet and billions of dollars for those that can't even spend what they already have in a lifetime.
It's a sad day for humanity.


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Posted By: MJ11
Date Posted: August 28 2021 at 9:33am
Lets not forget opium wealth.

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Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: August 28 2021 at 12:23pm
The Afghanis had a lot of freedom a while back look at pics from places like Kabul from the '50's & 60's.
Its easy to talk "freedom" but when there's a "rod" & a rusty but sharp blade inches from your throat its very different.
That's why the Mujhadeen, The Taliban & the DAESH under whatever name rule so brutally.
It a nation steeped in terror internal & external.

https://www.demilked.com/1960s-afghanistan-bill-podlich/" rel="nofollow - https://www.demilked.com/1960s-afghanistan-bill-podlich/


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Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)


Posted By: FNQ303
Date Posted: August 28 2021 at 3:18pm
gday all
I wouldn't worry about the Taliban they won't be running Afghanistan for long..the Caliphate under ISIS will be up and running again before too long bringing more terror attacks in western countries and untold misery to the Afghanis themselves


Posted By: A square 10
Date Posted: August 29 2021 at 7:14pm
i agree with zed on this one - get in , do what needs doing , get out , too many do gooders trying to save the world that dont want saving , now we have americans that wont get out ...but then , when they knew we were leraving why didnt they get in line to go ? 


Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: August 30 2021 at 9:40am
"There's nowt so queer as folk"
Old midlands saying.
"All world's queer 'cept me & thee, & thee's peculiar sometimes"!
Smile


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Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)


Posted By: Stanforth
Date Posted: August 31 2021 at 1:45am
It was brought up to this...


There's nowt as queer as folk.
There all queer except thee and me
And I'm not so sure about thee.

See all, Hear all, say nowt
Eat all, sup all,pay nowt.
If tha does owt for nowt,
Do it for tha self.


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Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: August 31 2021 at 9:24am
ClapThumbs Up
"Where there's muck, there's brass"!


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Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)


Posted By: Stumpkiller
Date Posted: August 31 2021 at 6:30pm
There will be more going on there.  The Taliban hate ISIS-K, and the Mujahadeen hate them both.  It's a very factional country.

Now we'll see who amoung those groups can keep the infrastructure running.  Cities need a support base to get the food and utilities worked out.

We may see a repeat of the Khmer Rouge and the Killing Fields; but with the religious zealots rather than the Communist faction purging the educators and educated.  

Once again - so glad to have been born an American.


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Posted By: A square 10
Date Posted: August 31 2021 at 7:39pm
me too , i agree - there is nothing good going to happen in the immediate future - i dont get why any americans would be resistant to removal , but then im not living their lives so ill refrain from further comment , 


Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: September 01 2021 at 9:07am
Back to the rival warlords would be my best guess.


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Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)


Posted By: SW28fan
Date Posted: September 01 2021 at 12:56pm
To lighten things up a bit  I wrote lyrics for General Milley's personal Guard

To the  tune of the British Grenadiers 

There is a Battalion of Simps, gays and  queers
The woke faggots called the Milley Musketeers

Their Officers are sissies they all wear pink pants 
but they need no girls to a Regimental dance

They'll never be commanded to storm a Palisade
and their marching is more of a promenade

Their Officers are sissies they all wear pink pants 
but they need no girls to a Regimental dance



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Posted By: shiloh
Date Posted: September 14 2021 at 4:25am
 I was going to rant my views on this whole awful story, but we must all be retarded to allow this history to constantly repeat it`s self.
 Afganis=stupid will be this planets undoing...... dah dah dahhhhhhhh
 JMOO



Posted By: Zed
Date Posted: September 14 2021 at 12:02pm
I think it was Einstein the said: 
"the difference between genius and stupidity; is that genius has it's limits!"

There was something on the international news that made me smile tonight!
A brand new Taliban pick up truck loaded with fighters, flags  and weapons; driving on a dirt road; with a big white Taliban flag drapped over the front of the vehicle; covering all of the air vents for the vehicle!

I guarantee it'l have boiled up completely within a few miles of driving like that! 
You really can't fix stupid!

I was also thinking about all the vehicles that were given to the Afghan Forces and are now Taliban owned. I'm sure that all military vehicles would have GPS tracker's to help locate the crews if they got into a problem. So why not use those same trackers to lock in a few missiles and blow the bloody lot to pieces!
Just a thought!Evil Smile


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