Trap door spring(s).
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Topic: Trap door spring(s).
Posted By: scottz63
Subject: Trap door spring(s).
Date Posted: November 15 2021 at 6:11am
So, my butt plate trap door was very stiff and hard to get open. No way to open it with a finger, had to use a screwdriver to get it started. Took off the butt plate to look at it and found it had two springs installed! Either a factory mistake or some previous owner really wanted that trap door to stay shut. Lol. I put it back to one spring and it is more than enough to keep it closed and still allow it to open with a finger. One of the fun things about surplus guns, you never know what you will find inside. :)  ------------- 14EH AIT Instructor-PATRIOT Fire Control Enhanced Operator/Maintainer |
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Posted By: Zed
Date Posted: November 15 2021 at 11:57am
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Don't remove the Butt retaining screw if the fore end wood is still fitted to the rifle! The end of the screw has a square section the is aligned to fit in a steel plate at the rear of the fore end wood. If you force it undone; it can split the fore end! ------------- It's nice to be important, but it's more important to be nice! |
Posted By: Canuck
Date Posted: November 15 2021 at 1:02pm
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Zed is right. I haven't seen 2 springs like that ever! Quite right, you never know what's inside! Like a box of chocolates with no diagram in the lid, LOL. ------------- Castles made of sand slip into the sea.....eventually |
Posted By: scottz63
Date Posted: November 15 2021 at 5:50pm
Thanks. I saw that on a video on disassembly on a mk1 no3. Are they all like that? I think I remember seeing one video of a 2A1 where the stock bolt did not protrude from the receiver socket or had a round end. I'll have to search form it again. ------------- 14EH AIT Instructor-PATRIOT Fire Control Enhanced Operator/Maintainer |
Zed wrote:Posted By: scottz63
Date Posted: November 15 2021 at 5:50pm
Absolutely! Lol ------------- 14EH AIT Instructor-PATRIOT Fire Control Enhanced Operator/Maintainer |
Posted By: A square 10
Date Posted: November 15 2021 at 5:55pm
| never seen the double spring - i doubt the factory did it , some later owner had an issue at some point i think - the springs are not identcal if the photo is accurate , i suspect one was too weak and the solution was to add the second that was probably adequate , glad you have it fixed |
Posted By: scottz63
Date Posted: November 15 2021 at 6:01pm
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Yup, one of the springs has a bit more of a curve to it. Not real sure why someone did that. I tried both springs separately and they both work as intended on their own. Funky.
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Posted By: SGonger
Date Posted: November 15 2021 at 6:11pm
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Howdy 🤠y’all; Tidbit;the trap door should have a pull out resistance of 2-3lb‘s when opening. Cheer’s.
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Posted By: scottz63
Date Posted: November 15 2021 at 6:56pm
Thank you! ------------- 14EH AIT Instructor-PATRIOT Fire Control Enhanced Operator/Maintainer |
Posted By: scottz63
Date Posted: November 15 2021 at 7:05pm
My Ishy 2A1 does not have a squared off head on the stock bolt nor does it protrude through the receiver socket. I could remove the buttstock without removing fore end wood if I wanted too. Here is a pic of mine after I removed the fore end wood. ------------- 14EH AIT Instructor-PATRIOT Fire Control Enhanced Operator/Maintainer |
Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: November 16 2021 at 8:23am
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A lot of them were "cropped" to remove the square end, mainly because of accidental damage to the forend while dismantling. Its original purpose was to "lock" the bolt by inserting the square end into the square cut out in the tie plate. ------------- Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force) |
Posted By: scottz63
Date Posted: November 16 2021 at 8:33am
Oh, ok. I had watched a video on disassembly of another 2A1 and it was the same as mine. I was just guessing all 2A1's were built like this. Thanks. ------------- 14EH AIT Instructor-PATRIOT Fire Control Enhanced Operator/Maintainer |
Posted By: Zed
Date Posted: November 16 2021 at 11:50am
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Please to hear that you've checked it out prior to disassembly. However I would always recommend to remove fore end before butt on any rifle that you work on for the first time. Better safe than gluing up a split fore end! Your rifle looks to be in great condition. ------------- It's nice to be important, but it's more important to be nice! |
Posted By: scottz63
Date Posted: November 16 2021 at 11:55am
For sure. I watched and read a lot of info before I started tearing into this thing. The Enfield platform is new to me so I have already learned a bunch and still have a bunch more to go. Thanks! It is indeed in great condition. It was well taken care of and not fired much. I'm happy to be it's new caretaker.
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