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Topic: Resurrection
Posted By: shiloh
Subject: Resurrection
Date Posted: November 23 2022 at 8:40pm
I had this bubba`d 8/44 Fazack N05 collecting rust and dust so I decided to resurrect it.
After reading various conversations on taming the beast, I decided to give it a whirl.

 This rifle was bought on the cheap a few yrs back, the receiver is drilled and tapped, the flash hider was ventilated in front of the sight with many many tiny holes probably an attempt to negate barrel flip. Then the holes where bronze brazed closed, I`d assume, based on the gold color. At least its all matching.

 So I restocked, with a No4 butt, larger recoil area, took the flash hider off and cut back the damaged forward area of the barrel, about 7/8 of an inch, Then proceeded to fit an M1a muzzle brake and sight. I got the front sight height close based off the original front sight, even if its too high there`s lots of rear sight adjustment.

 Tomorrow will be test day, If its better and shoots decent, I may just have a new handy light weight bush gun, game getter. If nothing else, it looks cool, and otherwise turned a turd into something functional.






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Posted By: scottz63
Date Posted: November 23 2022 at 8:46pm
I like it! Good work and let us know how it shoots. Thumbs Up

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Posted By: Goosic
Date Posted: November 24 2022 at 5:31am
Excellent work.



Posted By: Honkytonk
Date Posted: November 24 2022 at 10:50am
That is a really cool looking rifle!


Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: November 24 2022 at 12:42pm
Nicely done.
Watch out for alignment with that suppressor they're famous for strikes.


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Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)


Posted By: shiloh
Date Posted: November 24 2022 at 8:04pm
Originally posted by Shamu Shamu wrote:

Nicely done.
Watch out for alignment with that suppressor they're famous for strikes.


Thanx Gents, Range day tomorrow or Saturday weather permitting.

Shamu, yes alignment of these muzzle brakes are a pain, to say the least. The trick is making the threads dread nutz on and using a long bore rod to to confirm alignment. My bore rods are a snug fit zero movement in any axis just apply lube and insert slowly.....
So far so good, can`t wait to shoot this beast, it`d be nice to get more then 5 rounds down range before having to ice my shoulder....Ouch

I`ll get some better pics of it when I get to the range.


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shoot em if you got em


Posted By: scottz63
Date Posted: November 24 2022 at 8:55pm
Can't wait!

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Posted By: shiloh
Date Posted: November 26 2022 at 4:38pm
 Got to the range today and it was very busy, Only got a 1/2hr window to shoot, took both the bubba`d No5 and the `41 BSA. Manged to shoot 5 shots with the BSA and 4 with the N05. Load was PPU brass, Win large primers, Hornady 174gr FMJ BT and 34.7grns IMR 3031.
 Both were shot out to 100yrd. BSA rear sight set to 200yrd, tin hat target, No5 sights set to 300 yrd, same target.(targets are upside down..lol)
 The BSA shows great potential, the No5 not so much, but I will say it is a lot of fun to shoot, barely noticeable recoil especially with the slip on recoil pad fitted. This thing is loud, made my ears ring a couple times even with my noise cancelling head phones on. Shot a bunch of hack 150gr plinking rounds before switching to the 174`s.
 First picture, No5, second BSA. No sight corrections as I forgot my tools and the time restraint. The 174`s grouped tighter than the 150`s from the No5, but still not great. Maybe I`ll dyck around with some bedding options and see if I can get any improvement.



This is the first time the BSA has been shot by me, it does show potential to be a good shooter.


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Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: November 26 2022 at 6:36pm
Isn't your "Tin Hat downside up"?


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Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)


Posted By: The Armourer
Date Posted: November 27 2022 at 1:35am
Originally posted by shiloh shiloh wrote:

 
 Both were shot out to 100yrs. BSA rear sight set to 200yrs, tin hat target, No5 sights set to 300 yrs, same target.
 

Thats a he!! of a distance - is that light years, or normal years ?

Tongue


Posted By: shiloh
Date Posted: November 27 2022 at 3:06am
Ha ha that`s funny, funny how d`s can turn into eses when you least expect it. (edited)

And yes upside down, didn`t realize that until I got back to the shooting position. So I just shot the rifles upside down maybe that explains the crappy groups.





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Posted By: Goosic
Date Posted: November 27 2022 at 6:34am
I do not see crappy groups there. I do not think like a target shooter either however.  What I see is a dead guy. You hold those targets over your chest and you will see what I mean. Those battle implements/ rifles were originally intended to get alot of projectiles down range in a hurry. If you were to take one of those used targets and copy off twenty of them and then place them side by side on the backing berm of your range and walk back to the firing line you will see the destruction that these Lee-Enfield rifles are capable of. Your rifles are still works in progress and with more time, your rifles groupings will get smaller with you calling your shots like Babe Ruth. I say excellent results sir...


Posted By: scottz63
Date Posted: November 27 2022 at 6:58am
Nice shooting with the old girls!

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Posted By: shiloh
Date Posted: November 30 2022 at 12:05pm
Finally got some pictures, cheeck rest left handed(made from old sported fore stock), recoil pad I had laying around(works real well). Will be putting my old Weaver K3 on it.






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Posted By: Zed
Date Posted: December 01 2022 at 3:42am
Great job!

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Posted By: rb67mustang
Date Posted: December 09 2022 at 1:56pm
Originally posted by shiloh shiloh wrote:

Finally got some pictures, cheeck rest left handed(made from old sported fore stock), recoil pad I had laying around(works real well). Will be putting my old Weaver K3 on it.




I love it, shiloh!!! I guess I should've used a N04 butt stock on my Jungle Carbine instead of the replica I bought. The extra contact area of the No4 butt stock is much better than the original. 


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pass the ammo, please, the enemy approaches!!!


Posted By: rb67mustang
Date Posted: December 09 2022 at 1:59pm
Originally posted by shiloh shiloh wrote:

Ha ha that`s funny, funny how d`s can turn into eses when you least expect it. (edited)

And yes upside down, didn`t realize that until I got back to the shooting position. So I just shot the rifles upside down maybe that explains the crappy groups.

OMG, I needed a good Laugh!!! LOLWink


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pass the ammo, please, the enemy approaches!!!


Posted By: shiloh
Date Posted: December 09 2022 at 4:12pm
Originally posted by rb67mustang rb67mustang wrote:

Originally posted by shiloh shiloh wrote:

Ha ha that`s funny, funny how d`s can turn into eses when you least expect it. (edited)

And yes upside down, didn`t realize that until I got back to the shooting position. So I just shot the rifles upside down maybe that explains the crappy groups.

OMG, I needed a good Laugh!!! LOLWink


Sometimes you just need a snappy reply....

Yes, the No4 butt stock is the way to go if you want to be shooting one of these.
I first had a limb saver slip on recoil pad, helped tremendously, then I figured I`d put the inertial recoil system on it; it`s even better now.
My load for this rifle is, 34.7gr of IMR3031 under a Hornady 174grn FMJ BT open base bullet, Winchester primers and PPU brass. No felt recoil at all, simply wonderful!  Thumbs Up HeartHeartHeart

Now in the process of mounting the scope, I`ll post a picture when done. off to the gun smith to see if he will do some hard soldering for me tomorrow.
Cheers


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Posted By: shiloh
Date Posted: December 10 2022 at 9:38am
Mounting one of these on A Jungle Carbine is not for the faint of heart.
Introducing The No5 Bush Carbine Sniper.

Another fun project done, just so it will eventually be prohibited then confiscated, beginning to wonder why I even bother>>>>>Angry

Going to go to the range tomorrow and sight it in on a Justin Trudeau picture target :sniper: LOLClapThumbs UpWink       Funny that in the past our club frowned on such folly, now no one gives a toot.




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Posted By: rb67mustang
Date Posted: December 10 2022 at 10:30am
Shiloh, where I live in DEEP BLUE, RI, there's one state run target range that free to the public. It a very nice place which was renovated a couple of years ago. The draw backs areas follows: 
1. No matter what the standard capacity of a firearms magazine is, they have always limited magazines to be loaded with no more than ten rounds. 
2. They don't allow targets as you mentioned you're going to use to sight in the scope on your N05, and even targets with a black silhouette of a human form are not allowed.
3. The range opens in April and it closes for the season in October. Why such a limited time you might ask? The office and rest room are not heated.
https://dem.ri.gov/natural-resources-bureau/fish-wildlife/outreach-education/hunter-education/great-swamp-shooting-range" rel="nofollow - https://dem.ri.gov/natural-resources-bureau/fish-wildlife/outreach-education/hunter-education/great-swamp-shooting-range

Justin TrudOh! is one step above Dementia Sleepy Joe Biden. TurdOh is nothing but a "Turd" who's destroying Canada. I hope he's voted out of office ASAP, and the citizens regain their freedoms and their rights will not be infringed.Wink


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pass the ammo, please, the enemy approaches!!!


Posted By: Honkytonk
Date Posted: December 10 2022 at 11:07am
Shiloh, did you install the mounts?


Posted By: shiloh
Date Posted: December 10 2022 at 11:58am
Originally posted by Honkytonk Honkytonk wrote:

Shiloh, did you install the mounts?


I did.
The rear pad area has no meat to drill and tap, that was the challenge. I made a piece to basically bring that area back to No4 Mk1 specs. Cut and fit,even the scalloped spot, no easy feat. Once fitted It was drilled and pinned in to hold it in place while I silver soldered it in. Being extremely cautious not to over heat it.
Its bore sighted as reference by Peter L, needed to be shimmed at the rear with 2 beer can shims to bring on target.


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Posted By: Honkytonk
Date Posted: December 10 2022 at 12:11pm
Well done! Way, way above my pay grade!


Posted By: shiloh
Date Posted: December 10 2022 at 12:51pm
Originally posted by Honkytonk Honkytonk wrote:

Well done! Way, way above my pay grade!


Thanx, Its not hard to do this kind of work, you just need to think it through and proceed slowly.
 I generally make a stat sheet, what to do, how to go about it doing it step by step, mat`ls needed and tools check list. Then when I`m sure of the skill set required and I have everything gathered up, I`ll start.
And then I follow the procedure as I outlined it, checking ea box as the steps are completed. I rarely ever go willy nilly into a project, but it does happen from time to time.....Embarrassed
This project`s been on my to do list for almost 3 yrs now, it maybe too little too late.....


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Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: December 10 2022 at 5:10pm
Oh gawd Rhode Island!
I had a customer in Rhode Island, we always got crap shipping stuff to her from NYC They wanted to know "what State Rhode Island was in".
The funny thing is she lived on an island in Rhode island!
Talk about confusion!

Her neighbor was her phone, the phone company gave them so much grief about running a phone line to an Island they simply shared a line (& a phone with its billing) to the house maybe 50 yds away which was on "mainland Rhode Island" they'd tell the caller to hold, or call back, & row from their pier to her pier maybe 20yds? & yell. Then they'd row her back to answer the phone!
Censored


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Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)


Posted By: shiloh
Date Posted: December 11 2022 at 2:35am
Nice Range almost identical to our club in layout and operation. Though ours is a private club with member ship dues.
We have 2 archery ranges, 1 static and one 1 mile walk through, 50yrd pistol range, 50yrd rim fire range, 100yrd rifle only range, 13 station sporting clay's range, and 2 clay's ranges, one being Olympic class, that hosts regional events.


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Posted By: shiloh
Date Posted: December 12 2022 at 10:43am
Ok time for the range report. Went out this morning, snow on the ground, stiff breeze right to left, and 30deg F. Targets right way up this time... LOL
 Static zero`d at 25yrds, peering down the bore and correcting the reticle, a few clicks up and to the right. Did the same a 100 yrds then fired 5 rounds(150grn Speer psp flat base)

 First pic is how I shot this, second shows patched first group, corrections then next group.

 Third shows patched second group, corrections then my last group, the shot in the 8 ring low I pulled, fingers were aching cold at that point so I packed it in.

 The patch at 2:00, 9 ring is not from this outing.

 Shows better potential than with irons that`s for sure. Smile
The scope is an old `70`s Weaver, K3-1 German #1(post cross hair)

The way it`s set up now, I could shoot it all day long, only a slight nudge to the shoulder, very uneventful.







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Posted By: britrifles
Date Posted: December 12 2022 at 10:55am
Excluding that one low shot in the 9 ring, that is quite good!  5 shot groups?  Looks like you have something here that should hold the 10 ring on the SR target.  Give it a go in the Virtual Match Forum. You might have to wait until spring for warmer weather.

What scope is that?  Looks familiar…


Posted By: Honkytonk
Date Posted: December 12 2022 at 11:26am
How do you shoot those little pieces of tape downrange? 


Posted By: shiloh
Date Posted: December 12 2022 at 11:30am
Weaver K3-1  German #1 reticle


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Posted By: shiloh
Date Posted: December 12 2022 at 11:46am
Originally posted by Honkytonk Honkytonk wrote:

How do you shoot those little pieces of tape downrange? 


Laugh2


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Posted By: scottz63
Date Posted: December 12 2022 at 4:49pm
Originally posted by shiloh shiloh wrote:

Weaver K3-1  German #1 reticle

Love old Weaver scopes. They have that nice classic look to them. They work good as well.


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Posted By: shiloh
Date Posted: December 12 2022 at 6:38pm
Originally posted by scottz63 scottz63 wrote:

Originally posted by shiloh shiloh wrote:

Weaver K3-1  German #1 reticle

Love old Weaver scopes. They have that nice classic look to them. They work good as well.

 Yes I agree, the only draw back is the settings on this one is not very fine, 1/2 " per increment at 100yrd. but its a rock solid scope, the glass is very bright and clear which is tough to get in old scopes.


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Posted By: scottz63
Date Posted: December 12 2022 at 8:23pm
It is tough to find in old scopes. Lucky you found a good one.

The Weaver K2.5 on my FN M1950 is crystal clear and holds a perfect zero.





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Posted By: shiloh
Date Posted: December 22 2022 at 7:04am
Going to the range today to shoot this rifle some more. Got 80 RP 180grn sp rounds from a friend last week.
More of a test for the inertial recoil pad I installed. Should be interesting.
I`ll report the results.


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Posted By: scottz63
Date Posted: December 22 2022 at 7:41am
Lookin forward to it. :)

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Posted By: shiloh
Date Posted: December 22 2022 at 11:02am
Not terrible, I`ve been shooting 150grn reloads, so trying these 180grn SP store bought Remingtons was a treat. Little heavier push, but that was it. The inertial recoil butt plate works beautifully, I could shoot it all day.
I didnt adjust the scope for these but shot POA. The first shot  at 1:00 was aiming dead center. The next 5 where shot at 6:00 center. the resulting group is 2.25"x1" maximun spread, well within the 10 ring of an SR target.
The shots in order as spied through my spotting glasses are 3:00 then top to bottom, holding the same POA as closely as possible, so stringing a bit, probably just me. All 6 shots shot inside of 3-4 minutes.
I had this rifle scoped a few yrs ago with a smith-less mount and the rocket nozzle flash hider. Average group at 100yrds was around 4" IIRC. So my conclusion with this rifle is the factory rocket nozzle may very well have affected group size.
The frigg`n thing is loud, louder than it was, ear plugs and noise cancelling muffs are a must. If the shot dosn`t kill the deer, the noise will....LOL




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