Spare magazine
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Topic: Spare magazine
Posted By: The Apprentice
Subject: Spare magazine
Date Posted: January 23 2023 at 7:57am
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Fellow Enfield enthusiast My rifle serial is B34591 made by BSA in 1944. It is No4Mk1T sniper rifle. I would like to get a spare magazine for it Anyone have a spare ? Or a place where I can get one Thank you. Jeff ------------- New to Enfield’s |
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Posted By: SGonger
Date Posted: January 23 2023 at 8:18am
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Apex Gunparts Com; Colorado; Is a good place to deal with. Cheer’s. ------------- Anyone seen the Tardis Box anywhere? 🤨 |
Posted By: The Apprentice
Date Posted: January 23 2023 at 10:10am
Thank you Steve I will check them out ------------- New to Enfield’s |
SGonger wrote:Posted By: SGonger
Date Posted: January 23 2023 at 11:33am
------------- Anyone seen the Tardis Box anywhere? 🤨 |
Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: January 23 2023 at 1:00pm
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Bear in mind they are not "Plug 'n Play", you may need to fiddle with it a bit to get 100% reliable feeding. Make
doubly sure you get a magazine for a No4, not a no1 which won't fit
correctly. Some vendors don't know/don't care which they sell you. You need the one on the left if its for a No4 (short rear locking rib & strengthening grooves don't go all the way to the bottom of the sidewalls.)  ------------- Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force) |
Posted By: The Apprentice
Date Posted: January 23 2023 at 1:53pm
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Thank you for the tip Chaz on the No1 magazines now for the follow up question Will a No 3 magazines work ? ------------- New to Enfield’s |
Posted By: Enfield trader
Date Posted: January 23 2023 at 3:01pm
| not correctly - if you mill off the bottom half of the rib it would work but not correct |
Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: January 23 2023 at 4:41pm
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Not well. save yourself some grief, get the right one! ------------- Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force) |
Posted By: The Apprentice
Date Posted: January 23 2023 at 6:18pm
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Ok guys I will stay the corse and try find the correct magazine. ------------- New to Enfield’s |
Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: January 24 2023 at 2:42pm
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Try here: https://www.brpguns.com/no-4-mk-1-stock-trigger-magazine-parts/" rel="nofollow - https://www.brpguns.com/no-4-mk-1-stock-trigger-magazine-parts/ ------------- Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force) |
Posted By: scottz63
Date Posted: January 24 2023 at 2:49pm
All the magazines there are out of stock. ------------- 14EH AIT Instructor-PATRIOT Fire Control Enhanced Operator/Maintainer |
Posted By: Marco1010
Date Posted: January 24 2023 at 2:59pm
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looking at that link to BRP I now know what you guys in the USA mean about parts drying up ! Those demilled DP rifles look real sad too, are they the bottom of the barrel stuff that came back from Eithiopia ????
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Posted By: SGonger
Date Posted: January 24 2023 at 2:59pm
I browsed Apex & I think they are out too!!
 ------------- Anyone seen the Tardis Box anywhere? 🤨 |
Posted By: scottz63
Date Posted: January 24 2023 at 3:12pm
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I guess GB or Ebay? ------------- 14EH AIT Instructor-PATRIOT Fire Control Enhanced Operator/Maintainer |
Posted By: The Apprentice
Date Posted: January 24 2023 at 6:08pm
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A fellow member is going to go thru his spare parts and see if he has one so we may get lucky 😉 ------------- New to Enfield’s |
Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: January 24 2023 at 6:52pm
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Theres a few on E-Pay, mostly for No1, but the prices! Oi! the prices ------------- Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force) |
Posted By: A square 10
Date Posted: January 25 2023 at 2:19pm
| has the rifle been sported ? i could see it then but if original why alter what was a hand fitted assembly meant to stay together , the enfield magazine boxes were never meant to be removed save maintenance and cleaning , |
Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: January 25 2023 at 4:22pm
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I think, if I read his post correctly, that he has one, but also wants a spare to go with it? ------------- Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force) |
Posted By: The Apprentice
Date Posted: January 25 2023 at 6:24pm
Michael good question No she has not been sported yet a rare rifle I have been told The answer for the spare magazine is I have 1000 Berdan Primers and I plan on loading magazines with boxer primed rounds and keeping them separated and loading the 2nd magazine with Berdan Primered rounds I would not modify the rifle in any way if we can get it to work with any modifications to the magazine then I would not go any further. Pictured rifle we are working on is the one in the back https://flic.kr/p/2nZZjt8" rel="nofollow">  https://flic.kr/p/2nZZjt8" rel="nofollow - 1C1F700B-3AC9-4909-A376-55F46CA8D8CB by https://www.flickr.com/photos/193435206@N02/" rel="nofollow - Jeff Lee , on Flickr https://flic.kr/p/2nZYWqs" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: The Apprentice
Date Posted: January 25 2023 at 6:31pm
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Deal or no deal ? https://intersurplus.com/products/lee-enfield-no4-magazine" rel="nofollow - https://intersurplus.com/products/lee-enfield-no4-magazine ------------- New to Enfield’s |
Posted By: The Armourer
Date Posted: January 26 2023 at 1:13am
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[QUOTE=The Apprentice] The answer for the spare magazine is I have 1000 Berdan Primers and I plan on loading magazines with boxer primed rounds and keeping them separated and loading the 2nd magazine with Berdan Primered rounds https://flic.kr/p/2nZYWqs" rel="nofollow"> /QUOTE]The Enfield magazine was not designed for repeated removal and insertion, the 'ears' are quite delicate and removing the mag, keeping it in your pocket etc, refitting the mag WILL result in displacing the 'ears' - it literally only takes a "few thou" to make the mag not feed correctly. This is why each magazine needs to be hand fitted to each rifle, and why they are numbered to the rifle - they are rarely interchangable without a bit of tweaking. Your rifle, you can do as you wish, but changing over mags could result in a frustrated days shooting when it refuses to feed.
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Posted By: britrifles
Date Posted: January 26 2023 at 4:56am
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Jeff, any particular reason you want to load the Berdan primed cartridges in a separate magazine? Of course, they will feed and function the same way the Boxer primed cases will. I’m just curious what your reason for the two mags are… The others are correct, the mags do take fitting to the rifle and rarely are interchangeable without tweaking. I only remove them for cleaning. With the scope fitted, you have to load rounds into the mag one at a tome, can’t use a charger. Or remove the mag and load it separately. I tend to do the former. |
Posted By: The Apprentice
Date Posted: January 26 2023 at 5:55am
Main reason is to keep them separate for reloading purposes I agree with the scope on top I find it easier to remove the magazine and load it then insert into the riffle My goal is not to mix up the boxer/Berdan brass , I am starting to think the extra magazine in not a good idea , I knew a little fitting would be required. Maybe it’s not worth it. ------------- New to Enfield’s |
Posted By: Honkytonk
Date Posted: January 26 2023 at 6:01am
| You could always put a dot on the bottom of the cartridge with a Sharpie to tell the two apart. |
Posted By: britrifles
Date Posted: January 26 2023 at 6:39am
Your reloads should be packed in boxes or cartons with a label to identify the load details. Otherwise, one day, you will wonder what the loads are!  |
Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: January 26 2023 at 1:50pm
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I tried the sharpie dot on the bottom trick. Although I used the primer figuring the ID would go away during, but not before, the reloading process. It didn't end well, the dot simply vanished on firing!  Maybe somewhere on the actual case will work though. Re the magazine: Snipers usually single-loaded, they just used the magazine follower as a "loading platform". I've found with my scoped rifles the best loading technique is to insert the bullet tip into the breech a little, then "roll" the case down & rearwards into the top of the magazine. Then push fully to the rear. This seats is easier done than described & prevents the infamous "rimlock" jam. Yes its a very good price especially nowadays. The one shown seems to have lots of "Free Patina"
 & beware the "may vary from whats shown" but they may have nicer ones too, maybe ask them first.------------- Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force) |
Posted By: britrifles
Date Posted: January 26 2023 at 2:19pm
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Jeff, you should not have a problem “mixing up” the berdan brass with the boxer brass. Those Berdan cases are easily identified by the headstamp. Once they are fired, if you’re not sure, shine a light down the case mouth and you will see the two small holes. You don’t want to inadvertently run those into a full length sizing die, you will bend or break the decapping pin.
I have used a sharpie before to identify individual cases where I noted loose primer pockets during the priming step (.223). I use a red sharpie to encircle the primer. After firing, I could still see the sharpie marks and discard those cases. I can’t imagine using magazines to separate your reloads…gosh, I would need 50 magazines. My reloads follow a specific code, “M” for Match, “SR” for Short Range, “LR” for Long range, “G” for game (don’t do many of those), then a number for different combinations of powders and bullets, a letter for different charge weights, and so on. My current match load for .303 is M#15C. No way to keep that straight by loading magazines… |
Posted By: The Apprentice
Date Posted: January 26 2023 at 6:01pm
 OkI admit that I am slow on the uptake but I now yield To getting the extra magazine I am going to focus on box layout of my reloaded cartridges My son & I found a 1500 yard range of BLM land 1.2 milers from the house it’s in Washington State just across the river from Umatilla I would like to see what this girl can do at 600 yards . I have about 100 Berdan brass and 1,000 new primers I did gut the Berdan Primed ammunition that you guys cautioned me that it had corrosive primers I plan on reclaiming 15 and leaving the 50 in the green cloth carrier I may switch to using them and saving my boxer primed cases And switching to single shot in my humble opinion is a lot safer way to shoot anyway
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Posted By: Honkytonk
Date Posted: January 26 2023 at 6:24pm
| BLM has their own range? |
Posted By: The Apprentice
Date Posted: January 26 2023 at 6:57pm
No Pat it’s just public land owned by the bureau of Land Management  ------------- New to Enfield’s |
Posted By: A square 10
Date Posted: January 26 2023 at 10:18pm
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ok mthis thread went off , thanks for the reply , i understand your intent and although i might not agree i can see the need , as to a BLM range - im glad it got clarified to bureau of land management instead of the terrorist group we could all question today with their silence on the recent murder charges filed on five black cops here
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Posted By: Moosm14
Date Posted: January 30 2023 at 12:22am
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I have a spare magazine, and will check condition. ------------- There is room for all of gods creatures ... right next to the mashed potatoes |
Posted By: Honkytonk
Date Posted: January 30 2023 at 6:54am
| The Apprentice, what brand of scope is on the bottom rifle? |
Posted By: The Apprentice
Date Posted: January 30 2023 at 8:38am
Pat if your asking about the Remington 1903a4 that is a factory weaver m73b1 (weaver Civilian 330C) It’s is way inferior to the English scopes it’s only a 3/4” tube 2-1/2 power and they were not robust at all  ------------- New to Enfield’s |
Posted By: Honkytonk
Date Posted: January 30 2023 at 8:52am
| Thanks! I ask as I have a similar looking scope (Malcolm) on a No 1 repo sniper rifle that is side mounted. |
Posted By: britrifles
Date Posted: January 30 2023 at 9:04am
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The M82 (Lyman Alaskan) was a bit better (7/8 inch tube), also used on the M1 and 1903/a4. I have a Malcom M82 repro on my 1903a3 and optics are pretty good. |
Posted By: Honkytonk
Date Posted: January 30 2023 at 1:13pm
| Yes, mine is 6x and very clear. |
Posted By: The Apprentice
Date Posted: January 30 2023 at 8:52pm
Geoff I found out my M73b1 was broken when I got it . And I can get it to zero anymore so to help my self and allow me to shoot it I found a older open top 4 in M84 Rudolf Wendel as the manufacturer. All those who own M84 sniper telescopes should check the data plates for the open top 4 in M84 to see if they're the owner of a rare Rudolf Wendel M84 telescope. With the 7/8” tube it allows a little better light gathering although I don’t think it is as good as my British Mark II scope with it being 1” it gathers even more light.   ------------- New to Enfield’s |