.303B ammunition
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Topic: .303B ammunition
Posted By: Canuck
Subject: .303B ammunition
Date Posted: February 05 2023 at 8:37pm
My local gun store has fresh stock of PPU .303B ammunition in 150Gr SP and 174Gr FMJ. 150SP costs $44.95 a box and 174 FMJ at $49.95. Canadian dollars and on the west coast. 30 boxes of each. What are your prices like for factory ammunition in your area these days? (Assuming there is any available).
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Posted By: britrifles
Date Posted: February 06 2023 at 4:12am
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Seems to be running $23 - $25 per box of 20 in the US. Midway a bit more.
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Posted By: shiloh
Date Posted: February 06 2023 at 4:21am
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Same price here in Ontario, pre covid I was paying $28/20rnds, now its well over $50 with tax. What a lot of folks is calling greed-flation. Seems to be the norm on just about everything we buy now-a-days. 
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Posted By: scottz63
Date Posted: February 06 2023 at 5:32am
britrifles wrote:
Seems to be running $23 - $25 per box of 20 in the US. Midway a bit more.
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That's what I have been seeing lately.
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Posted By: Goosic
Date Posted: February 06 2023 at 6:37am
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My last batch of "Store Bought" 303 British ammunition was well over 5 years ago when I purchased 10 boxes of Herter's Brand 303B because they were on sale for $9.99 a box. I have been buying those WWII Winchester rounds from this guy on Gunbroker for $25 bucks a box but, I'm just doing that to source the New and Unfired brass...
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Posted By: britrifles
Date Posted: February 06 2023 at 12:36pm
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I don’t think I’ve ever bought any commercial .303 ammunition. I have bought some HXP and PMP surplus Mk VIIz, I think it was around $0.30/round at the time, that was over 20 years ago.
I have bought a fair bit of .30-06 commercial ammo loaded for the M1 rifle (S&B and PPU), and a lot of HXP M2 ball surplus about 6 or 7 years ago when it was under 70 cents a round. Probably more than I will ever use. I figure I’ll break into this when the zombie apocalypse starts  .
As they used to say, “By ‘em cheap and stack ‘em deep”. The days of the first part of that saying are gone forever I’m afraid…
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Posted By: Smokey
Date Posted: February 20 2023 at 3:21pm
With the cost of ammo increasing, and having to trim costs, I took up reloading. reusing the brass, the per-round cost is less than 50 cents. Using cast bullets about 25 cents.
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Posted By: Sapper740
Date Posted: April 06 2023 at 12:29pm
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I've been reloading .303 British since the Eighties so I'm a little out of touch with current prices but I can tell you the last box of 100 LeHigh 180 gr. Target Solids set me back almost $60.00 usd. I stay in touch with my Canadian friends on FascistBuch and they were posting pics of boxes of .303 British at Cambodian Tire (Canadians will know what I mean) for $75.00C a few months ago.
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Posted By: shiloh
Date Posted: April 07 2023 at 2:11am
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I load 303, my pet load is 38,5 gr of 4064 or varget for plinking at the range. Current local pricing for components is, Varget/4064-$99.95/lb, Hornady 150grn fbsp-$65.95/100 count, lrg rifle primer-$250/1000. So 1 lb of powder is roughly 7000grns so 181 rnds per lbs, or .62 cents/round primers are .283 cents/round Bullets are @ .75 cents per round This cost includes 13% sales tax. The cost per round for me if I was refreshing with new current pricing is $1.65/round Cnd.
With the old stock I currently have, the cost is around .95 cents/round.
The last box or Rem 180gr 303 I saw was $55.94 taxes in at a local gun shop, Canadian tire is price gouging for sure. So ya its still a little cheaper to reload, but here in Canukistan that gap is quickly closing, pretty much becoming a rich mans sport. Then if you really want to see price gouging try buying 303 ammo at local gun shows here, last fall the average was around $75/20 or higher, with higher end brands stretching to north of $100/20
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Posted By: britrifles
Date Posted: April 07 2023 at 1:37pm
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Wow, those are some crazy prices for reloading components! Right about 2X what we pay in the US. Why is that??
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Posted By: Strangely Brown
Date Posted: April 07 2023 at 1:52pm
britrifles wrote:
Wow, those are some crazy prices for reloading components! Right about 2X what we pay in the US. Why is that?? |
Ukraine is the commonest answer in the UK regarding reloading shortages and high prices, I was told on Tuesday that CCI have enough military contracts to last ten years, how true that statement is I really have no idea. In the meantime primers (Fiocchi) are being rationed in the NRA shop at Bisley to 300 per customer.
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Posted By: britrifles
Date Posted: April 07 2023 at 3:40pm
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Yes, but the US is pouring billions of rounds of ammunition into Ukraine. So why are the prices here 50% compared to the rest of the “free world”? I’d expect the opposite…
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Posted By: shiloh
Date Posted: April 08 2023 at 2:47am
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Because that`s the way retail has always been in Canada, 2-3x higher than US prices. Even when our $ was par or higher, The Greatest rip-off of all times. I remember being told it was because our population was so small therefore the cost of goods is higher, biggest crock of shyt I`ve ever heard.
Canada is just plan unaffordable. The US refines most of our oil to gas, our oil, and yet we pay world prices at the pump, we should be paying nada, $6.75/gal for regular, 94oct is $10/gal, boats staying in the garage this yr... 
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Posted By: Stumpkiller
Date Posted: April 11 2023 at 8:00pm
The last factory .303 soft-point I bought was three boxes of Remington 180 gr for $19.99/20. Been a few years since then (30?). Still reloading the brass; which just goes to show that I need to hunt more with my No. 4.
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Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: April 12 2023 at 10:28am
Yep I remember the "Twenty bucks for twenty rounds" pricing from the 80's
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Posted By: Sapper740
Date Posted: April 13 2023 at 1:52am
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Unfortunately, things are going to get worse before they get better, at least for us .311" caliber shooters. LeHigh has stopped production of their 180 gr. target solid as has Sierra with their 174 gr. Match King. I contacted the Sierra corporate office recently with a plea to resume production and was told that it was under consideration. Every year around this time they plan the next year's production and are aware of the pent up demand for .311" bullets, especially their Match Kings but no promises were made. It looks like Hornady has stopped production of their 150 gr. SST also. I've been snapping up everything I can find on the interweb and gun auction sites since I'm retiring in a little over a year and plan to spend my retirement years on the rifle range. Fortunately I'm in a good financial position and can afford the premiums people are charging but I feel for those who can't. I remember when money was tight as I raised 3 kids and gazed longingly at the stuff I couldn't afford.
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Posted By: A square 10
Date Posted: April 13 2023 at 7:09pm
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correct me if im wrong here - arent the 303 basically a 7mm bullet ? im in need of a little edumacation here as ive not looked into it but i remember the nomenclature on some rimmed cartirges i once purchase two decades ago saying something like that ,,,,but memory is beginning to fail me on things from that long ago ,
which reminds me i need to make a list of what i once [but no longer ] owned just so i dont forget , ive already forgotten the nomenclature for my swiss rifles , i can remember my US collection well both rifles and handguns but id like to have a reference for the upcoming ears if i can so i can at least talk of them if the opportunity arises
gettin old aint for sissys
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Posted By: Bullet Smith
Date Posted: April 13 2023 at 8:43pm
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I believe 7mm is around .257” while 303 bullets are .311” or312” in diameter. So a 303 is a fat 30 caliber as opposed to all the “normal” 30 calibers that measure .308”.
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Posted By: Goosic
Date Posted: April 13 2023 at 9:16pm
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.311 is 7.92mm but is listed as 7.7mm
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Posted By: Sapper740
Date Posted: April 14 2023 at 2:01am
Posted By: Sapper740
Date Posted: April 14 2023 at 2:07am
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1 mm = approximately .040" so even a fraction of a millimeter can be quite a few thousands of an inch which is why 7mm bullets are .284" and 8mm bullets are .323" J bore German rifles are 7.9mm (.318") and .303 British (7.7mm) are .311"-.312".
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Posted By: Bullet Smith
Date Posted: April 14 2023 at 6:21am
Sapper740 wrote:
1 mm = approximately .040" so even a fraction of a millimeter can be quite a few thousands of an inch which is why 7mm bullets are .284" and 8mm bullets are .323" J bore German rifles are 7.9mm (.318") and .303 British (7.7mm) are .311"-.312". |
This is the most accurate and detailed explanation.
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Posted By: Goosic
Date Posted: April 14 2023 at 1:37pm
Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: April 14 2023 at 1:43pm
Just to confuse things even more the metric designation for .303 British is 7.7 X 56 (R) its exactly the same round though just the nomenclature varies.
------------- Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)
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Posted By: Strangely Brown
Date Posted: April 14 2023 at 1:50pm
Shamu wrote:
Just to confuse things even more the metric designation for .303 British is 7.7 X 56 (R) its exactly the same round though just the nomenclature varies.
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The very first time I saw .303 referred to as 7.7mm was on some South African surplus bought some twenty plus years ago. The ammo was heavily varnished and didn't shoot well at all; if you broke the varnish seal between bullet and case it improved considerably.
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Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: April 14 2023 at 1:52pm
That's the most common place to find it.
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Posted By: A square 10
Date Posted: April 14 2023 at 7:56pm
i stand corrected - "... the metric designation for .303 British is 7.7 X 56 (R)..."
i think thats what i recall seeing on the package , its been a lot of years ago and i am getting old
ill look in my stash to see if i still have any and come back to add info if i do , otherwise ill bow out as im not the bullet guy here by any means
im goodwith the cast cowboy bullets in 45 and 38 but otherwise im not a reloader to speak of
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Posted By: britrifles
Date Posted: April 15 2023 at 12:49pm
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What adds to the confusion is the dimension used to define the cartridge Calibre. Bore and bullet diameters are common. Even groove diameter has been used. 7.7 mm converts to .303, which is the bore diameter, not the bullet diameter.
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Posted By: Goosic
Date Posted: April 15 2023 at 1:06pm
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...and to further confuse you... The .30-06 Springfield is an American-designed cartridge, and most (but not all) cartridges originating in the United States use groove measurements (which are larger than land measurements) when measuring bullet diameter. So, even though the bore of the rifle (measured across the lands) is .30", the actual bullet diameter is .308" because the bullet must closely match the groove diameter (.308" in a .30-06) in order to form a good seal in the barrel.
To make things even more confusing, most cartridges designed in other countries use land measurements. Take the 7.62x39 mm cartridge used by the AK-47 as an example. At first glance, it would appear to use a bullet with the same diameter as the .30-06 Springfield, since they are both 7.62 mm cartridges.
However, the 7.62x39 mm cartridge (designed in the Soviet Union), measures bullet diameter using land measurements instead of groove measurements. Because of this, the groove measurement (and the actual diameter of the bullet) is .312" (7.92 mm) instead of .308" (7.62 mm), a difference of .004".
However, .004" is a significant difference when it comes to actually shooting a bullet. While it may seem obvious, the way to avoid problems with improperly sized bullets is to shoot the right ammunition in your guns. If you're hand loading, you should use a reputable reloading manual to ensure you're using the right-sized bullet when hand loading for a particular cartridge...
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Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: April 15 2023 at 1:25pm
& then Hornady makes a "Special bullet for that caliber" but measuring 0.3105"! 
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