Help with modified 1907 hook quillon bayonet
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Topic: Help with modified 1907 hook quillon bayonet
Posted By: zev
Subject: Help with modified 1907 hook quillon bayonet
Date Posted: August 22 2023 at 5:56am
  Hi,I recently purchased online a M 1907 bayonet by Wilkinson dated 4/09.On close inspection I think that it had it's quillon removed.This is the first bayonet I ever bought ... I am attaching some pictures. Please let me know your thoughts on this one.  Appreciate your help, Zev |
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Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: August 22 2023 at 10:24am
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The easiest way to tell is to closely examine the hand-guard/mount ring. If
its a strait taper opposite the ring, where the quillions hook would have been its not. If there's a curve there it probably was. Its a
bit subtle but its a give away if you have a slightly jaundiced eye for
detail. This is curved (on the right of the image)  ------------- Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force) |
Posted By: zev
Date Posted: August 22 2023 at 12:19pm
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Hi, Thanks for your reply! Do these pictures help?  |
Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: August 25 2023 at 8:13pm
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YES.  That's got the curved sides so it was probably a "hookie" that was modified by having it ground off. ------------- Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force) |
Posted By: Strangely Brown
Date Posted: August 26 2023 at 3:59am
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I believe the order to remove quilliams came in 1913, so yes yours is spot on! ------------- Mick |
Posted By: A square 10
Date Posted: August 28 2023 at 9:09pm
| i agree a 1909 would most likely have had it removed - it had one to begin with and very few escaped the circumcision |
Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: December 17 2023 at 3:02pm
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Hey! Need some direction / verification here. Last nite I was browsing round the TV stations. There was a 1st war clip being shown. The French were attacking a German trench line. Germans were shooting their Mausers...with quillion hook bayonets attached. Did that happen? I thought twas only the ANZACS had those & on Enfields. Anyone got some info on that? ------------- Loose wimmen tightened here |
Posted By: paddyofurniture
Date Posted: December 17 2023 at 3:10pm
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Reusing capture stuff. ------------- Always looking for military manuals, Dodge M37 items,books on Berlin Germany, old atlases ( before 1946) , military maps of Scotland. English and Canadian gun parts. |
Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: December 17 2023 at 6:21pm
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Hooked quillions were a fad for several armies at the time, including Germany. ------------- Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force) |
Posted By: A square 10
Date Posted: December 17 2023 at 6:50pm
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yes indeed , the british Pattern 1907 is a copy of the 1897 japanese bayonet type 30 but they actually had them going back to at least 1880 with their type 13 , in 1885 they developed the type 18 which evolved to the type 22 in 1889 , the japanese actually produced theirs till 1942 ,
the aergentines had hooked quillon in 1867 , the bavarians in 1869 , belgeum 1868 , brazil 1904 , chili in 1885 and i could go right down a long list that predates the patter 1907
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Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: December 18 2023 at 4:27am
Well, I recon I just learned more stuff  I had never seen / heard of Mausers with hookies b4------------- Loose wimmen tightened here |