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Topic: No 4 M1* SS
Posted By: 0311JG
Subject: No 4 M1* SS
Date Posted: September 26 2023 at 6:29pm
I recently had one passed down to me.  I did research on it and serial numbers match and it looks in good shape.  I noticed on the front left side of the receiver there is hole...when the bolt is open you see through it.  When the bolt is closed, there is a partial opening.

Does anyone know what that is? 

Thanks!



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Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: September 27 2023 at 11:16am
Its a gas vent hole to drop pressure in the event of a case head or primer gas leak.


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Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)


Posted By: Goosic
Date Posted: September 27 2023 at 11:22am
Originally posted by 0311JG 0311JG wrote:

I recently had one passed down to me.  I did research on it and serial numbers match and it looks in good shape.  I noticed on the front left side of the receiver there is hole...when the bolt is open you see through it.  When the bolt is closed, there is a partial opening.

Does anyone know what that is? 

Thanks!
Welcome to the forum Jim. If you are referring to the hole as indicated here in this photo then as Shamu has offered, it is to vent off excess pressure when a case head or case rupture occurs...


Posted By: 0311JG
Date Posted: September 27 2023 at 11:24am
Many Thanks!!!


Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: September 27 2023 at 3:06pm
I'm curious whats the "SS" referred to in the thread header?
From your pic I think that's a Maltby-made rifle, those stamps in a circle are kind of an ROF Maltby signature & I don't recall them making any NO4 Mk1* rifles. Those were all Savage-Stevens or Long Branch items?
I know it sounds nit-picking, but the Brit No-Mk (*) nomenclature can lead to some misunderstandings by reversing them!
Can you post a pic showing the opposite side of the receiver showing the whole action & one of this side showing the same area so we can sort it out for you.


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Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)


Posted By: Goosic
Date Posted: September 27 2023 at 3:12pm
Shamu. The picture shown is of my Maltby and not the OP's rifle.
As a side note and I only learned of this recently but, Maltby did make a large batch of mis-stamped No4Mk1* rifles that were part of Operation Carpetbagger...


Posted By: 0311JG
Date Posted: September 27 2023 at 9:20pm
Many thanks to everyone.

Mine is a Savage Stevens No4 Mk1* that was made in 1942 in MA.  It has the US Property stamp.  All the serial numbers match...bolt, receiver, barrel and magazine.  I don't see any markings that it was refurbished or that it was imported.  The stock finish is excellent and I'm wondering if it was ever refinished.  No one in the family seems to know anything about it.

Anyway, thanks again for the great help. 

Jim


Posted By: Sapper740
Date Posted: September 28 2023 at 6:22am
"Sold out of Service"?


Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: September 28 2023 at 9:49am
Ah, I missed that, sorry.


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Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)


Posted By: hybridfiat
Date Posted: September 30 2023 at 1:45am
Originally posted by 0311JG 0311JG wrote:

Many thanks to everyone.

Mine is a Savage Stevens No4 Mk1* that was made in 1942 in MA.  It has the US Property stamp.  All the serial numbers match...bolt, receiver, barrel and magazine.  I don't see any markings that it was refurbished or that it was imported.  The stock finish is excellent and I'm wondering if it was ever refinished.  No one in the family seems to know anything about it.

Anyway, thanks again for the great help. 

Jim

Mine's the same, 1942 Savage, Property of US matching serial numbers and excellent stock.
Pale timber of some sort.
No other marks.


Posted By: Goosic
Date Posted: September 30 2023 at 9:00am
Originally posted by 0311JG 0311JG wrote:

Many thanks to everyone.

Mine is a Savage Stevens No4 Mk1* that was made in 1942 in MA.  It has the US Property stamp.  All the serial numbers match...bolt, receiver, barrel and magazine.  I don't see any markings that it was refurbished or that it was imported.  The stock finish is excellent and I'm wondering if it was ever refinished.  No one in the family seems to know anything about it.

Anyway, thanks again for the great help. 

Jim
Jim. If you could post pictures of the rifle, that would help immensely with determining whether or not your rifle went through any refurbishments...


Posted By: A square 10
Date Posted: October 01 2023 at 5:25pm
i too am interested in the "SS" of the tittle , im not aware of any nomenclature that refers to so - inquiring minds need to know , we setteled the mkI* situation but the elephant in the room hangs gloomily here , please exp[lain me 


Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: October 01 2023 at 6:09pm
I think its Savage-Stevens?


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Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)


Posted By: A square 10
Date Posted: October 01 2023 at 6:13pm
oh - OK , that makes some sense , not much . but some 



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