In The Wrapper
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Category: Enfields
Forum Name: Enfield Bayonets
Forum Description: General discussion about bayonets for the Enfield rifles
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Topic: In The Wrapper
Posted By: HammerDown
Subject: In The Wrapper
Date Posted: January 04 2024 at 8:27pm
I was going through boxes of parts and found, what I think, is a No9 bayonet in the wrapper. This would have come from Century Arms International in the early 2000’s. At the time I purchased several No4 MkI rifles. I’m dying to peel it open and check the markings.  |
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Posted By: A square 10
Date Posted: January 04 2024 at 10:54pm
| thats what it appears to be to me , the spear point version - there were two versions the spear point and the drop point that looks like a no 5 , im not big on leaving things in wrappers where they may get spoiled by age/corrosion , |
Posted By: HammerDown
Date Posted: January 05 2024 at 4:52pm
| Agreed, I'm going to unwrap it this weekend and see what it is. |
Posted By: paddyofurniture
Date Posted: January 05 2024 at 5:33pm
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Photos please. ------------- Always looking for military manuals, Dodge M37 items,books on Berlin Germany, old atlases ( before 1946) , military maps of Scotland. English and Canadian gun parts. |
Posted By: HammerDown
Date Posted: January 05 2024 at 5:59pm
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If my research is correct, this was made at the Royal Small Arms Factory, Enfield in 1951.  |
Posted By: HammerDown
Date Posted: January 05 2024 at 6:03pm
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Posted By: paddyofurniture
Date Posted: January 05 2024 at 6:07pm
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Very nice. ------------- Always looking for military manuals, Dodge M37 items,books on Berlin Germany, old atlases ( before 1946) , military maps of Scotland. English and Canadian gun parts. |
Posted By: A square 10
Date Posted: January 05 2024 at 9:34pm
| enfield made in 51 if im seeing the markings correctly , very nice indeed , and looks like its escaped a lot of the rust that got so many that were left wrapped , but i was wrong on the spear point - its the drop point , i prefer that version myself |
Posted By: Strangely Brown
Date Posted: January 06 2024 at 4:04am
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That's typical of the War Office/Ministry of Defence, "lets keep the scabbards for spares". That's what you get when the government designs bayonets with the same scabbard design over a 39 year period. The other example I can offer is the sale of the L42A1, the bean counters suggested that the chamber cleaning stick could be useful for the next sniper rifle introduced into British service so they tool out all the chamber cleaning sticks before selling off the rest of the CES! The academic in me wonders whether the make do and mend culture from ww2 is responsible for some of these decisions. Nice No.9 by the way! ------------- Mick |
Posted By: Goosic
Date Posted: January 06 2024 at 5:50am
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South Africa-ARMSCOR While Aftrica used the British-made No. 9 Mk. I bayonet, they also manufactured a uniquely South African variant of the No. 9. The South African No. 9 blade profile differs significantly from its British cousin. This is a https://worldbayonets.com/Bayonet_Identification_Guide/South_Africa/South_Africa_2.html#no9" rel="nofollow - No. 9 bayonet made by Armaments Corporation of South Africa (ARMSCOR) , Lyttelton Engineering Works, in Pretoria. ARMSCOR is the State-owned arms manufacturer in South Africa. The British No. 5 Mk. I scabbard would not work with the So. African No. 9 blade, so other scabbards were substituted. There was no dedicated So. African No. 9 scabbard. The scabbard pictured below with this example is from a M1 bayonet. The M1 was the So. African variant of the https://worldbayonets.com/Bayonet_Identification_Guide/Belgium/Belgium_2.html#FALTa2" rel="nofollow - Belgian FAL Type A bayonet . By the time the So. Africa No. 9 bayonets were made, the M1 bayonet was being replaced by https://worldbayonets.com/Bayonet_Identification_Guide/South_Africa/South_Africa_2.html#r1" rel="nofollow - the R1 bayonet (the So. African variant of the https://worldbayonets.com/Bayonet_Identification_Guide/Belgium/Belgium_2.html#falc5" rel="nofollow - Belgian FAL Type C bayonet ). While the M1 scabbard was compatible with the So. African No. 9 blade profile, it was longer than necessary for the No. 9 blade... |
Posted By: Strangely Brown
Date Posted: January 06 2024 at 5:57am
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Goosic, I have the South African version but missed the chance of getting the "knuckle duster" hand grip for one a few years ago on Ebay. I'm guessing the handle was a private enterprise item and not standard issue for SA forces. ------------- Mick |
Posted By: Goosic
Date Posted: January 06 2024 at 6:19am
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The one pictured is mine and that blade is sharp enough to shave the hair off of my arm. I am almost certain it was sharpened after-the-fact...
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Posted By: Enfield trader
Date Posted: January 07 2024 at 12:28pm
| I’ve had several of the SA blade bayonets - kept a couple fit the SA No4s |