Machete
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Forum Name: Enfield Bayonets
Forum Description: General discussion about bayonets for the Enfield rifles
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Topic: Machete
Posted By: Jturn
Subject: Machete
Date Posted: February 04 2024 at 5:06pm
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I know a machete is not a bayonet but it is a British war time blade. I was wondering if anyone on this forum could chime in? I have a machete that is stamped: 1945 dated (broad arrow) TT&co. S Could the maker be Thomas Turner &Co. Sheffield? I read that Viners bought Turner before the war. Were they still using the name? |
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Posted By: Sapper740
Date Posted: February 09 2024 at 5:43am
Pictures would help. In Mr. Skennerton's book "The Broad Arrow" there is no mention of Thomas Turner & Co. that I could find. Viners is listed in the book but only as the manufacturer of bayonets. There is a TT co. listed, the Teddy Toy Company who apparently made webgear. In David Gordon's excellent book "Equipment of the WWII Tommy" he mentions British manufactured machetes that have blades of 17 1/2 inches with overall lengths of 22 1/2 inches with black plastic handles. There will be stamps of AF0100, broad arrow, maker name and date. Mr. Gordon says there were at least 6 manufacturers making these machetes during 1945, unfortunately he doesn't list them.
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Jturn wrote:Posted By: Jturn
Date Posted: February 09 2024 at 9:49am
| Thank you sapper, I’ll try and post some pics tonight. I do know mine is the 18” blade but has a replacement wood handle. I want to say that I read on the forum that Turner made some metal parts on the No.4 rifle (via a mfg. code?). |
Posted By: Jturn
Date Posted: February 09 2024 at 5:54pm
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Posted By: Jturn
Date Posted: February 09 2024 at 5:55pm
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Posted By: glomar
Date Posted: August 07 2024 at 7:51pm
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I have a Machete Identical to yours TT & C S 1945, same handle same sheath! i spent 2 days searching for info on this & failed until now...Thank you for the Info ------------- gloria goeller |
Posted By: Jturn
Date Posted: August 08 2024 at 8:51pm
| Glomar, please let me know if you find out any more info! Thomas Turner was just an (educated) guess on my part. |
Posted By: A square 10
Date Posted: August 08 2024 at 10:08pm
| interesting pieces , nothing i was ever collecting so i have no inpit , but nifty pieces |
Posted By: Strangely Brown
Date Posted: August 09 2024 at 3:06am
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Thomas Turner's wartime code is N77, (not that every manufacturer used their codes!) The vast majority of British armoured vehicles like the Ferret, Saracen and Saladin had a machete as part of the complete equipment schedule (CES) of the vehicle along with a flare pistol. Both of these often carried wartime manufacturing dates during my period of service in the 1970's. The British army has a habit of holding onto things because they "could" be useful; two examples are the scabbards for bayonets, you often find No.7 & 9 bayonets without scabbards and the other was the more than curious decision to take out of the L42 rifle chests the wooden breech chamber cleaning stick. Thay must have cost all of 2/- shillings to produce! ------------- Mick |
Posted By: A square 10
Date Posted: August 09 2024 at 7:12pm
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its interesting to me that the commonwealth didnt have a bayonet/machete , the US had one for the krag rifles of 1892-1898 vintage , there were not a lot of them around and they command a princely price but thewy are out there , i never found one for my collection but i had an example of all the rifles and bayonets as well as the scabbards EXCEPT FOR THAT ONE
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Posted By: paddyofurniture
Date Posted: August 10 2024 at 7:13am
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I have a short, curved, machete I use to cut up wild pig. ------------- Always looking for military manuals, Dodge M37 items,books on Berlin Germany, old atlases ( before 1946) , military maps of Scotland. English and Canadian gun parts. |
Posted By: Strangely Brown
Date Posted: August 10 2024 at 7:54am
Australia had one; I've only ever seen one example and that was owned by a bloke over here who also owns the rare Australian No.6 trials rifle.  ------------- Mick |
Posted By: paddyofurniture
Date Posted: August 10 2024 at 8:06am
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Very nice! ------------- Always looking for military manuals, Dodge M37 items,books on Berlin Germany, old atlases ( before 1946) , military maps of Scotland. English and Canadian gun parts. |
Posted By: A square 10
Date Posted: August 10 2024 at 10:15pm
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i forgot that , thank you , i did once know that but old age is creeping up and i forgot ...imagine that ? thats very much like the US krag bayonet that iis so rare , how rare are these to find ? i looked for a few years to secure my hookie - i cant imagine looking for one of these , i only found one HAK revolver and it had been bobbed so no longer a collectible
i never went looking for the ausie mkVI for that same reason but i almost got one once ..........just a little out of my budget to get it here
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Posted By: Strangely Brown
Date Posted: August 11 2024 at 3:10am
Welcome to my club!  Thet appear rare enough for people to make repro's these days, I wasn't aware of that until I started looking after seeing this thread. ------------- Mick |
Posted By: A square 10
Date Posted: August 11 2024 at 8:12pm
| yes - the market drives the fakes as well as the price making things like this a bit more difficult , you gotta pnow all about what your after before you start shopping or you will get stung |