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Topic: Best bullet weight for hunting with the 303
Posted By: 303carbine
Subject: Best bullet weight for hunting with the 303
Date Posted: September 16 2007 at 2:45am
My vote goes for the 180 grainer for best overall bullet weight.



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Posted By: Cookie Monster
Date Posted: September 16 2007 at 9:49am
150 for me


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: September 18 2007 at 10:29am
I'm with CM on this one ! With the quality & design of avalible projectiles these days ,I really think the 150 gn is hard to beat

      Dave


Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: September 18 2007 at 12:04pm
Sure gets my vote!! I bin espousing that fer years..
I've bin extremly happy with the results I recieved from the 150 grn pill.
Hoadie

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Posted By: Cookie Monster
Date Posted: September 18 2007 at 6:53pm
I do not dislike the 180's they are an excellent round, I use them in heavy brush at close ranges in a round nose corelock. But the 150 with its excellent ballistic and longer ranges can not be beat!!
 
CM


Posted By: White Rhino
Date Posted: September 19 2007 at 10:58am
Had no problems with my kill last season.(150 grn)

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Posted By: Jonsered
Date Posted: October 15 2007 at 9:31am
150 grn seems to work pretty good for me


Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: October 18 2007 at 10:56pm
I tend to use 150 on deer & 180 for Moose.
By the by, there was 4 Enfields in the moose camp this year!
Hoadie

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Posted By: Richard/SIA
Date Posted: May 18 2008 at 4:14pm
I cannot be the only one using hand-load 125 gr. soft points.

I admit I cheated by putting a Montana Rifleman ® barrel on my gun, mostly to rid myself of the vastly oversize chamber.
This doubled the life of my brass.

My most recent Mule Deer was taken at 325 yards, hit him within an inch of my point of aim.
If I can ever duplicate that shot, I want to have a witness, of course I will have to win the hunt tag lottery again first.

The 125 gr. bullet has enough zip to pass through a deer, so why punish yourself with a heavier bullet unless you are hunting very large or thick skinned game?

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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: May 18 2008 at 9:03pm
I hear you on the rebarreling ! My Barrel Guy does a excellent .303 barrel (as well as most of the Old .303 based converstions ) Most of my work with the 123-125gn 311-312 projectiles is with my .310 cadet ,though I have played round with them in the .303 at times with good results .

     Dave


Posted By: Cookie Monster
Date Posted: May 18 2008 at 10:11pm
Originally posted by dave h dave h wrote:

I hear you on the rebarreling ! My Barrel Guy does a excellent .303 barrel (as well as most of the Old .303 based converstions ) Most of my work with the 123-125gn 311-312 projectiles is with my .310 cadet ,though I have played round with them in the .303 at times with good results .

     Dave
 
What manufacturer is your barrels made by?


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: May 18 2008 at 10:17pm
I Use Sprinter Arms Barrels. As did my Father before me . Their a little company up in the Adelaide hills & have gone from Father to son . They stock reamers for many types of 303 convertions.

    Dave


Posted By: Cookie Monster
Date Posted: May 18 2008 at 10:25pm
Originally posted by dave h dave h wrote:

I Use Sprinter Arms Barrels. As did my Father before me . Their a little company up in the Adelaide hills & have gone from Father to son . They stock reamers for many types of 303 convertions.

    Dave
 
 
Are those available here in the states? I use Walther barrels made in Germany. But I have been wanting another manufacturer to try.


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: May 18 2008 at 11:25pm
You'd have to order them from the Factory ,as their only a small work shop.

   Their contact details are SPRINTER  ARMS  37 CHURCH ST HAHNDORF  SA  5245     08 8388 7137


     Dave





Posted By: mathd
Date Posted: September 13 2008 at 12:36pm
Hey
am new to the forum.

I just got a lee enfield .303 no4 mk1 sporterized a bit.

Today me and a friend shoot it for the first time with 2 kind of ammo and i got a question about the bullet weight.

We first shot some 150 grain solf point, one each and i never shot rifle before this. We both got like 1 ft away of the paper target at like 150 ft away of it.

Then we both shot with some Super-x 180 grain Power Point and both got pretty close to the middle of the target "like 2-4 inch from center"

We shot 1 Cartridge of each weight each. We shoulda have shot more but no ammo to waste.

Is that normal or is that us that was bad for our first shot with it?.

Also what would be the best for moose hunt, Federal 150 grain soft point or Winchester Super-X 180 grain power point? Or you suggest anything else?

Will be first moose hunt, also i am not used to these rifle, i have no idea what ammo to use,  i may try again the 150 grain later.

Thanks you :)

Mathieu


Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: September 13 2008 at 1:18pm
Well-first thing you should do i tell us WHERE you are!
Not tryin to be a goof-but location tells us alot.
Now-I hunt with .303 British..I would use NOTHING else.I bin offered alternates.No thanks...
Now-Last year was my 1st year with my new moose group.They sized me up pretty quick..askd me point blank'CAN YOU GIVE ME A KILL SHOT @180-200 YDS IN THIS MARSH?"
I held up my NoI MkIII* leaned forward & said 180 grain.
I was put in the catch spot as he came out of the pond.
The guy next to me took 5 shots to take it down(I counted 1 hit) he was 25 yds away!
Anyway-180 gr for big stuff..150 for deer, boyo
Hoadie

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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: September 13 2008 at 6:01pm
G'day Mat ! Now first up ,I don't see you'll go to far wrong with using the Winchester 180gn  ammo for Moose . Limit the range of your shooting out to about 200yrds max ! But Please ,get a couple of boxes of the ammo & practice ,get to know where the rifle shoots try standing supported & off of a rest . At the end of the day bullet placement is vital  a rifle that shoots a 2 to 4inch group is plenty accurate enough for something the size of a Moose . BUT!!!!!!! Bullet placement is everything

 I know I'll probarly sound like a interfearing Old Fart ,but there are several things to be considered , There will probarly be a different impact point between 25 yrds & 200yrds  so try a group at 100 & 150 .  Also remember that when you see that Moose the Old nerves are going to set in ! Know where your rifle is shooting ,conferdense in your rifle is everything & trust me after over 40yrs of shooting for a living ,I've learnt some hard leasons ! Don't be afraid to ask questions ! I of course have never Hunted Moose , but there are those here who have & their a wealth of information ! I've Hunted Camel & Water Buff with the .303 & trust me it's up to the task (Ok it was always a little marginal on Buff )

      Dave


Posted By: Cookie Monster
Date Posted: September 13 2008 at 10:58pm
I the 180 grain projectile shoot very well with the original sights designed for the 174 grain HV MK VII ammo. The trajectories are very similar.   


Posted By: Cookie Monster
Date Posted: September 13 2008 at 11:01pm
Originally posted by mathd mathd wrote:

Hey
am new to the forum.

I just got a lee enfield .303 no4 mk1 sporterized a bit.

Today me and a friend shoot it for the first time with 2 kind of ammo and i got a question about the bullet weight.

We first shot some 150 grain solf point, one each and i never shot rifle before this. We both got like 1 ft away of the paper target at like 150 ft away of it.

Then we both shot with some Super-x 180 grain Power Point and both got pretty close to the middle of the target "like 2-4 inch from center"

We shot 1 Cartridge of each weight each. We shoulda have shot more but no ammo to waste.

Is that normal or is that us that was bad for our first shot with it?.

Also what would be the best for moose hunt, Federal 150 grain soft point or Winchester Super-X 180 grain power point? Or you suggest anything else?

Will be first moose hunt, also i am not used to these rifle, i have no idea what ammo to use,  i may try again the 150 grain later.

Thanks you :)

Mathieu
 
 
Both rounds shoot very well and if used correctly will provide excellent proformance. Has Hoadie stated where and what has a lot to do with bullet choice.
 
CM


Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: September 14 2008 at 1:06am
Heed wot Dave says...he's bin there/done that..Placement is everything.Confidence/familiarity with your weapon is crucial.
Hoadie
(Drunk Bob Wet Pants)

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Posted By: mathd
Date Posted: September 15 2008 at 12:10am
Thanks for the info guys :)
am gonna get practicing with that rifle seriously i need to get used to it.
Gonna try both ammo again and all the tip/trick you give me :D.

Also, the ammunition bullet on the winchester is Power Point, i think it is softer thant soft point(i dont know really), but this wont be a problem for penetration? or i should get something else(hollow point?)? i guess they are pretty similarPower Point/Soft Point.

Also i am on Canada, quebec. Ill be hunting at the lake st-jean.
Where we will be hunting there is clear area. we probably have like 2 miles of clear view :| and then there is tree all around and not much mountain.

I just have some problem witht he rifle for the last ammuniion to get out of the charger and go in the barrel :S. The last ammo just keep stuck in the charger.
I also have one more question about the rifle(i should have my own topic sorry) The sight when it is up there is a rule on it, do this is helpfull to use it? and is the rules for Yard or Ft?

As you guy see i dont know much :P but i like this rifle pretty much yet, i dont plan on changing it at all :D

Thanks again :D


Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: September 15 2008 at 2:21am
the sliding sight is in yds.
Hoadie

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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: September 20 2008 at 9:51am
There is always great debate on the Soft nose /Hollow point issue ! You can debate until the cows come home (trust me on this ) Personally I use a mixture ! For smaller calibers I prefer Hollow point as I find they don't have to hold together as I'm shooting a thin skinned game, where as on large Game I prefer a Soft nose projectile as they hold their weight & the expansion is better controlled. I like ammo with a moderate verlosity when using Soft point ammo as it has time to really open up as it penetrates!
          The major problem when using Factory Ammo is you are limited to the type or manufacture  of Projectile that is on offer & the Manufacturer is a slave to the Number crunchers who run the company IE: make the stuff as cheap as possible !!!!!! Reloaders are blessed in the fact that we don't have,that problem we can tailor our ammo to suit the situation. As a Pro shooter due to the volume of ammo I used to shoot I had to reload due to cost ! These days it's not a matter of cost, it's a matter of getting what I want out of a round!

      Dave          


Posted By: Lost Kangaroo
Date Posted: September 20 2008 at 11:21am
Amen to that Dave



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Posted By: enfieldALEX
Date Posted: December 21 2008 at 7:07am
150 for me  wolf ammo make 174 grain i thought iT was kind of an odd number when i first saw it i might try themStar


Posted By: dragonhunter
Date Posted: December 24 2008 at 6:00am
I was shooting a 150 grn. two weekends ago (got a 12 point on the west coast of Florida) and I had one of the shell caseings split near the top . I was useing some Winchester ammo that came with the rifle . I don`t know if they are reloads or not . I was useing my Savage #4 mrk 1* ; and as far as any one can tell I`m the first one out side the factory to put a round through it ( at total of 50 rounds so far) .

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Posted By: dragonhunter
Date Posted: December 24 2008 at 6:01am
                                HAVE A HAPPY CHRISTMAS EVERY ONE

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Posted By: airforcediver
Date Posted: December 27 2008 at 2:54am
Originally posted by hoadie hoadie wrote:

Heed wot Dave says...he's bin there/done that..Placement is everything.Confidence/familiarity with your weapon is crucial.
Hoadie
(Drunk Bob Wet Pants)
 
Hoadie Hoadie Hoadie,
we live in a kinder gentler Canada now, they are called firearms not weapons.
And by that I mean, thats what the Gearbox instructor kept trying to tell me when I challenge my firearms tests.


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Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: December 28 2008 at 5:48am
You call 'em what ya want!! When the critters get together & talk about ME-they talk about Hoadie & his weapons of mass destruction!
Hoadie Hussein

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Posted By: airforcediver
Date Posted: January 01 2009 at 1:34pm
LMFAO, You sure they don't call you General Hoadie Hannibal the Canadian Carthaginian! 

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Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: January 01 2009 at 10:02pm
Naw-not me....like Hitler,I never rose above Corporal!!
Heil Hoadie

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Posted By: airforcediver
Date Posted: January 02 2009 at 9:05am
I don't think I like the sound of Chancellor Hoadie, altho we would have few BS gun control laws

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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: January 02 2009 at 12:41pm
Originally posted by airforcediver airforcediver wrote:

I don't think I like the sound of Chancellor Hoadie, altho we would have few BS gun control laws


 No I have to disagree here ! Chancellor Hoadie Works for me !  I can just see the Rallies now I really can ! Hell Hoadie even has the Eagle's Nest ! (his hunting lodge ) People of Canada arise your Leader has come at last ! So begin the 2 & 3/4  Reich!!!!!!!!!!


      Dave ...a true believer in Chancellor Hoadie 


Posted By: Tony
Date Posted: January 02 2009 at 6:45pm
Heil Hoadie???  Sounds good to me!!! Now for the toothbrush mustache (he's got the uniforms) shove him on the podium and let him rant!  Big%20smile

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“If electricity comes from electrons, does morality come from morons

Born free taxed to death!!!



Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: January 02 2009 at 10:41pm
Tony,Tony,Tony...You of all people shud know I dont "Rant"....I "educate".
As for our current political leaders-they'll all be going to a nice re-education center...er quaint resort in Guyana.
I'm SURE they'll see things more clearly after they relax & enjoy the purple drink....
Jim HOADIE Jones
(hmmm...has a nice ring to it..)

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Posted By: airforcediver
Date Posted: January 03 2009 at 4:12am
lmao, I don't know Hoadie some of them aren't worth the airfare


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Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: January 03 2009 at 5:24am
no no no...they use they're gov't expense accounts.All on one flight...1 way.
1 week later the lawyers will be attending this resort...so it has to be readied.

Hoadie(The Hospitable)

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Posted By: Smokey
Date Posted: January 03 2009 at 6:25am
Hoadie, is it a "stiff drink" you'll be serving them (or is it a drink that turns them all into "stiffs"?)


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: January 03 2009 at 9:25am
HOADIE!!!!! HOADIE!!!!!! HOADIE!!!!!!


      Dave........Hoadie's Minister of Proper Gander


Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: January 03 2009 at 12:20pm
I accept Dave's nomination of minister of the proper Gander..& decree it so...
But we gotta look @ the bigger pitcher here..we gotta envision the erth as a hole..means we gotta be thinkin global.(eventually).we'll straighten out Canader first-in yer overalls view..tehn whence we boned up on our jogfree,we'll knows where ta put folks...like inYer Uwe Ass,Maxico,Senter Amurka,Souse Amurka, even An Tarticker!!(help the oppresed penguins).
Then our movement will move into Yerp.
Oh-it will be a grand thing...a new world disorder...that actually wud make sense!!
HoadieKhan

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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: January 03 2009 at 2:37pm
(help the oppresed penguins).

      Yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If we get the Penguins on side ,the Seals & Polar Bears are sure to follow !!!!!!!!!


COMRADES TODAY THE PENGUINS !!!!!!!!! TOMORROW THE WORLD !

      Well at least the little corner shop down the street ! we don't have to cross the road then !

          Dave ....... Hoadiekhan's  sniveling Henchman & Minister of Proper Gander !!!!!!


Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: January 03 2009 at 8:24pm
An jest who do ya figger wee shud have for Minister of Dee Fence?
Herr Hoadie

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Posted By: Tony
Date Posted: January 04 2009 at 2:54am
Dave!!! 

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Born free taxed to death!!!



Posted By: airforcediver
Date Posted: January 04 2009 at 5:10am
I wanna be Minister Transpo, i have a few design mods in mind for my Truck already

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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: January 04 2009 at 11:13am
Originally posted by hoadie hoadie wrote:

An jest who do ya figger wee shud have for Minister of Dee Fence?
Herr Hoadie



     I nominate Tony !  Four Minister of Dee fence !  I'm flat out with Proper Gander !  (offer him a knight hood ) Airforcedriver has to be Minister of Transport as he already has the right Name !


       Dave .......Looking Good in a Dress Uniform


Posted By: airforcediver
Date Posted: January 04 2009 at 12:51pm
Thanks Dave, even tho it's DIVER but I'll take the job anyways Tongue

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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: January 04 2009 at 6:42pm
Originally posted by airforcediver airforcediver wrote:

Thanks Dave, even tho it's DIVER but I'll take the job anyways Tongue



    OPPs EmbarrassedEmbarrassedEmbarrassed

    Dave


Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: January 04 2009 at 9:28pm
So be it!! Airforce diver will be minister of Transpo(if he finishes customizing MY truck!), dave is Minister of Proper Gander...Tony shall be the Minister of Duh Fence!!
Your right...a knighthood as well.Tony! Get down on 1 knee...I herby pronounce thee a Knight of the Realm!!!Arise!!, Sir Loin of Beef!!
Now whos gonna handle the $$(there wont be a whole lot of it..cause we aint gonna pay alot of taxes!!(No more tax on booze,petrol,food....)
King Hoadie the 1st

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Posted By: airforcediver
Date Posted: January 05 2009 at 3:10am
We can make up those taxes by levy'n lawyers, and all the former politicians, as they won't be needing their money at re-education camp.

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Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: January 05 2009 at 5:18am
They aint gonna be here ta "levy" them....Hmmm, how bout we tax the folks in Yerp, instead??
Makes sense to me!
K.G.5th

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Posted By: airforcediver
Date Posted: January 05 2009 at 8:35am
works for me, we need to set up a refinery in AB as well help out that shortage of fuel were going to have

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Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: January 05 2009 at 1:25pm
U kiddin,mate?! We got refineries out there...but the oilsands will cost too much to operate.I figger we SELL the oil operations in AB to the Saudis...Once we get the dough,I nationalize the biz(get it back)We get they're $$ & our oil...(You stick with ole Hoadie,mate!He knows what he's doin((with a little help from our friends-o'course))
KG 5th

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Posted By: Hatchetman
Date Posted: January 05 2009 at 4:09pm
You just have to look out for the Saudi's getting their own back at you sire.

Or the action that the fearsom UN might take.... they could write three, maybe four angry letters about you ripping off the saudi's my lord.

I am a fan of nationalised infrastructure as well, you can not trust those sneaky private companies, with the peoples railways, power generation and distribution, banks, water utility's, airlines....



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Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: January 05 2009 at 9:22pm
We'll solve the youth unemployment problem,too.If you drop out of school & dont have a job...or if your a pregnant teenage mother(or an unwed mother with a few kids) etc...NO MORE DOLE!! You will be rounded up & placed into our new military!!There will be arms of the service(we'll call it the "R.A.D") that will be responsible for infrastructure improvemnets like..creating gravel for roadbeds,emergency relief warehouses,canals,roads,rail....If your baby is born unto us while your in the service-it becomes the govt's kid(we'll breed a whole generation of SPARTANS!!)
(Hmmm-thot Dave wuda had the crowds whipped up by now.)
KG5th


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Posted By: airforcediver
Date Posted: January 06 2009 at 1:52am
Nice, and we don't need to fear the UN they don't go anywhere with ammo, too much paperwork.  Like the RAD Idea, mostly as the military loves acronyms and brainwashes us into using them...lol

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Posted By: theoldsoldier
Date Posted: January 09 2009 at 4:55pm
i will nominate myself for taxes, the pension i get im good with money.on second thoughts im not good at getting money off peopleCry

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Posted By: Tony
Date Posted: January 09 2009 at 6:14pm
(Hmmm-thot Dave wuda had the crowds whipped up by now.)

 Tracy knicked his whip Hoadie! Said he was getting too uppity for his own good.


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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: January 09 2009 at 11:35pm
Originally posted by Tony Tony wrote:

(Hmmm-thot Dave wuda had the crowds whipped up by now.)

 Tracy knicked his whip Hoadie! Said he was getting too uppity for his own good.


    No such luck! I've been out trying to knock some sense into the Drunks up at Roxby & trying to learn how to use the new Radiation detector (Gamma Ray ) Testing unit they have built to test vehicles leaving the site ! The way things are looking up there at the Moment ,looks like I might be in the market for a New Toyota & refitting the Rack to her & going back to working for myself !!!!!!!!!


       Dave


Posted By: John Coleman
Date Posted: January 11 2009 at 6:07am
There's nothing wrong with 150 grain bullets for taking large game but in worn surplus barrels I get better accuracy with 180 grain bullets. I think the heavier bullets might engage a bit more rifling.


Posted By: Cookie Monster
Date Posted: January 11 2009 at 6:53am

In tandem with using the 180-grain bullets to engage more rifling you can increase bullet diameter from .311 to .312. As well. Very good point John..



Posted By: marc03033
Date Posted: February 03 2009 at 10:49am
killed moste of my deers w 150 grain 2 tumbs up for it. as for the 180 grainer i prefer it for moose.as for living in norther ontario i never hunted elk so i realy cant say what would be best but im my opinion they prob whould do very well i have a friend thet lives in norther quebeq waswanipei and hes killed caribou whith the 150 grain he just prefers the balistics


Posted By: marc03033
Date Posted: February 04 2009 at 12:30pm
hi mat i use 180 grain sup x i find them awsome. if you read my story on the i love her tread youl see why no bull .i would also use them on black bear. but for me i would prefer 150 for deer or you can get the prtizans 174 grain. where do you hunt is realy the question. and knowing you rifle is the tru way you will know whats best for you .so practice practice practice .bienvenu au forume mat amuse toi bien


Posted By: unrealpara
Date Posted: March 27 2009 at 8:05pm
180gr is what i normally shoot and no problems! Im quite a fan of the 180gr ammo, but recently ive gotten a few boxes of 155gr ammo and im Impressed! although i dont think a Roo or whatever you hunt can tell the differance. but i might pick up a few more boxes of 155gr if my targets are made of paper and 300+ yards out.Thumbs Up

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Posted By: Smokey
Date Posted: March 28 2009 at 2:09am
I use Hornady 150gr Spire Points. Super accurate and they fill the bore. I've often wondered if slightly undersize bullets might accelerate bore wear from the hot gas blowing past, even if they do shoot well.


Posted By: wolfie1
Date Posted: September 03 2009 at 5:43am
the best wieght for 303 for hunting is 125gr, 150gr, 174gr, 180gr, an the 215gr.  depends on what and where i am hunting....lol

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Posted By: Cookie Monster
Date Posted: September 03 2009 at 9:43pm
I agree Wolfie1 however if I had to choose one all around bullet wieght.............Ermm...Be a close decision between the 150 and 174gr. I would go with the 174 because the factory sights are calibrated for those all ready


Posted By: Tony
Date Posted: September 06 2009 at 5:44am
If you can't stop it with a 174 grain soft nosed then you Yankees are breeding some heavyweight stock! Something the scientists have been working on behind closed doors maybe??  

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Posted By: Smokey
Date Posted: September 07 2009 at 3:11am
I suppose the Hornady 150gr Spire Point will do the job nicely on Black Bear and Mountain Lion. I'd prefer something a little harder hitting when one of them has an ugly attitude towards me though.Ermm


Posted By: K. Erik Hoopes
Date Posted: September 08 2009 at 12:56pm
If you are using factory loaded ammo then the 150gr hornady loads have better ballistics on paper including energy at 300 yds. than the 180 Remington or winchester. Haven't checked federal. In fact the 150 gr hornady rivals a 180 gr standard load Remington 30-06 for velocity and energy.

Found that interesting. Obviously I'm not say the .303 can really compare with the 30-06, but a hot .303 can compare to a mild 30-06.


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Posted By: Cookie Monster
Date Posted: September 08 2009 at 9:52pm
Originally posted by K. Erik Hoopes K. Erik Hoopes wrote:

If you are using factory loaded ammo then the 150gr hornady loads have better ballistics on paper including energy at 300 yds. than the 180 Remington or winchester. Haven't checked federal. In fact the 150 gr hornady rivals a 180 gr standard load Remington 30-06 for velocity and energy.

Found that interesting. Obviously I'm not say the .303 can really compare with the 30-06, but a hot .303 can compare to a mild 30-06.
 
Thank you for the information, Erik. Have not seen you in awhile how is things going?


Posted By: Tony
Date Posted: September 11 2009 at 6:44pm
Whatever the calibre it's gonna hurt if you're on the recieving end lol.

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Posted By: Smokey
Date Posted: September 11 2009 at 6:57pm
Tony, it's far better that the bear is the "recieving end" than whoever the bear "takes an interest" in. I just want to insure that outcome.


Posted By: 303carbine
Date Posted: May 09 2010 at 3:03am
I asked my uncle, who served in Korea about which bullet he preferred in the 303.
I asked him if the 150 or the 180 was best, he said , the 180 of course.
I said , why, he said, more thump.
I thought that was all that needed to be said.


Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: May 10 2010 at 6:50am
150 for deer,coyote,fisher...180 for moose
Hoadie

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Posted By: airforcediver
Date Posted: May 11 2010 at 1:30pm
Just yesterday afternoon, I smacked my spring bushpig (Blackbear) with a 180 Sierra @ 143yds (laser ranged). In the through the 4th and 5th rib and out just ahead of the second last rib, tore up both lungs and ruptured the heart. The exit wound was about the size of a quarter.  The bear ran about 25ft and toppled over, tumbling 45-50yds down the mountain side.  I'll add pics later, working f**ked up shifts right now.
 
       AFD


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Posted By: badbudgie
Date Posted: May 11 2010 at 9:28pm
Originally posted by airforcediver airforcediver wrote:

Just yesterday afternoon, I smacked my spring bushpig (Blackbear) with a 180 Sierra @ 143yds (laser ranged). In the through the 4th and 5th rib and out just ahead of the second last rib, tore up both lungs and ruptured the heart. The exit wound was about the size of a quarter.  The bear ran about 25ft and toppled over, tumbling 45-50yds down the mountain side.  I'll add pics later, working f**ked up shifts right now.
 
       AFD

Nice work AFD , I love the 150 gr Sierra Pro Hunters . The pigs and goats don't though.LOL
I have a Ruger No1 on order and am going to try the Woodleigh 215's in it.Tongue


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Posted By: EnfieldHunter
Date Posted: May 16 2010 at 10:48am
AFD Love to read a post on the Black Bear hunt when you find time.
 
Regarding bullet weight, I've had very good luck with the 174gr Hornaday Interlock round nose killing things and leaving big exit holes.  The round nose opens quickly and the interlock ring prevents over expansion.  Kills better than the sierra 180gr soft points I tried.  I've had expansion problems with that bullet.  I shot a buck head-on in the brisket and bullet broke the ofside hip.  Shooting the full lenght of a deer is too much penetration.  I've lost deer on broadside hits where no blood trail was created. 
 
The Hornaday kills about the same as Remington Corelocks in 180 grain.
 
150's shoot only marginally flatter under 250 yards, so, I don't bother with them, where as the 174 gr Hornaday expands reliably and penetrates well.  Thus, I tend to stick with Reloader 15 and 174's.
 
It's a different topic, but I prefer round nose bullets for reliable expansion at 2400 fps and lower velosity you get with a medium heavy bullet in a 303.


Posted By: Cookie Monster
Date Posted: May 16 2010 at 8:59pm
I like the 174gr projectile as well Enfield hunter loaded to Mk VII HV specs excellent with battle sights. not sight adjustment needed.


Posted By: airforcediver
Date Posted: May 17 2010 at 12:22pm
Originally posted by EnfieldHunter EnfieldHunter wrote:

AFD Love to read a post on the Black Bear hunt when you find time.
 
 
I posted it in the hunting section.
 
      AFD


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Posted By: pauerpilot
Date Posted: July 14 2011 at 1:26pm
My rifle likes the 150 grn projectiles. They group the best. 180 grn are acceptable but I am looking for sub MOA accuracy. I bought a box of 215 grn Woodlieghs. I did not like the accuracy afforded by those pills. For practice and grins I have been loading 174 grn SMK. Awesome pill for accuracy. Especially out to distance. For giggles my son and I were shooting out to 1200 meters just to see if we could. The SMK did not disappoint. Obviously we would not ethically hunt at those ranges. But 174 grn seems to perform very well. I am going to try out the 174 RN that Hornandy makes in .312 diameter. If I can get the same accuracy as the SMK then that is what I am going to use for AZ elk this year. I am confident that if I am within 500 meters, we got ourselves an elk. I will use 150 grn this year of deer and feral hogs. I may even take a look at the 125 grn pills available and try some of those if they are accurate. 

Any thoughts?

Al


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Posted By: saffer
Date Posted: August 07 2011 at 8:54pm
These guys make nice bullets for hunting.
 
http://www.frontierbullets.co.za/spartan.htm" rel="nofollow - http://www.frontierbullets.co.za/spartan.htm
 
I have personally seen the results from a 270 which is well know to damage meat due to its high velocity. Excellent weight retension and the bullet mushroomd into perfect petals. The animal it was used on went down instantly.
 
I know these bullets are sold in Canada, but not sure about USA.
 
As for me, I am inbetween loads at the moment having said goodbye to the last of my Corbin Core-lokt bullets, and am now using sierra pro hunters in 180Gr.


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