New Enfield owner
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Topic: New Enfield owner
Posted By: Werdna
Subject: New Enfield owner
Date Posted: December 21 2024 at 11:41am
Afternoon all. Just picked up my first lee Enfield a No4 Mk1. Looks like a Fazekerly, '42? Appears in good shape, headspaces well tight action. I am curious as to those receiver welds just now noticing them. Pretty good bore, about 85% maybe. Any info is appreciated. Sorry if this is the wrong place, just joined. Thanks y'all.  
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Posted By: A square 10
Date Posted: December 21 2024 at 4:16pm
| what receiver welds ? |
Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: December 21 2024 at 5:17pm
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Spot welds over "Charger Bridge" rivets. The Charger bridge is a separate part which is riveted to the receiver proper. If & when they get loose the fix is to spot weld them, fixing the problem. However I've never seen as sloppy a job as that done by a armorer.
------------- Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force) |
Posted By: Werdna
Date Posted: December 21 2024 at 5:59pm
| Ah I see, thanks for the info! Trying to do as much research on these as I can. I've seen a few other "last ditch" LEs whose welds were a tad sloppy. Rest of the rifle seems fairly tight. Prior milsurp experience was all morons, so even a sloppy Enfield is a step up. |
Posted By: paddyofurniture
Date Posted: December 21 2024 at 6:16pm
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I see the welds now. Very poor and not even ground to clear them up. ------------- Always looking for military manuals, Dodge M37 items,books on Berlin Germany, old atlases ( before 1946) , military maps of Scotland. English and Canadian gun parts. |
Posted By: Canuck
Date Posted: December 21 2024 at 6:48pm
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It should still be a serviceable rifle in my estimate. Welcome to the site! ------------- Castles made of sand slip into the sea.....eventually |
Posted By: SW28fan
Date Posted: December 21 2024 at 7:34pm
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Welcome From Texas ------------- Have a Nice Day If already having a nice day please disregard |
Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: December 22 2024 at 3:50am
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Werdna; where did you obtain this rifle? ------------- Loose wimmen tightened here |
Posted By: Sapper740
Date Posted: December 22 2024 at 4:44am
| Big HOWDY from Texas! I hope you know no one can buy just one Lee Enfield. |
Posted By: A square 10
Date Posted: December 22 2024 at 6:50pm
| ok , i still cant see them but then im old with bad eyesight these days , welcome to the site , im certain you will get some great responses |
Posted By: paddyofurniture
Date Posted: December 22 2024 at 6:58pm
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Welcome from North Carolina. ------------- Always looking for military manuals, Dodge M37 items,books on Berlin Germany, old atlases ( before 1946) , military maps of Scotland. English and Canadian gun parts. |
Posted By: Werdna
Date Posted: December 22 2024 at 7:26pm
| Thank you! Yeah Hopefully she'll be a good shooter. Locks up tightly still. |
Posted By: Werdna
Date Posted: December 22 2024 at 7:28pm
That's what I hear.  Traded my mosin for her. I can't get over how smooth the action is.
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Posted By: Werdna
Date Posted: December 22 2024 at 7:28pm
| Picked her up at a local gun show. 450.00 out the door |
Posted By: Werdna
Date Posted: December 22 2024 at 7:29pm
| Thank you! |
Posted By: britrifles
Date Posted: December 23 2024 at 4:01pm
That must have been done by a previous owner, never seen anything that looked that rough. Reynolds shows “screws” in his book The Lee Enfield Rifle securing the bridge to the action body, but looking at several of my No. 4 rifles, they must have hid them well. My 1956 Faz Mk 2 seems to have a nicely smoothed off spot weld and nothing visible from the top.   |
Shamu wrote:Posted By: Werdna
Date Posted: December 23 2024 at 6:05pm
| Wow those are some clean welds. I would feel better knowing they were done at the armory than a bubba somewhere in his garage, from a shooting standpoint at least. . Further inspection of the receiver shows my rife was FTR'd in 1948. I have seen a couple videos of last ditch no4s that had rather hasty looking, large welds. |
Posted By: britrifles
Date Posted: December 24 2024 at 3:07am
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Can you post a close up photo of the FTR marking. These were typically done by Fazakerley, and would be shown as “FTR(F)” usually with a two digit year in front as well. Doesn’t seem that Faz would not have ground those welds smooth. |
Posted By: paddyofurniture
Date Posted: December 24 2024 at 10:37am
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Poor workmanship? ------------- Always looking for military manuals, Dodge M37 items,books on Berlin Germany, old atlases ( before 1946) , military maps of Scotland. English and Canadian gun parts. |
Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: December 24 2024 at 11:00am
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'48 FTR I'd guess Faz as pretty much no-one else was left? ------------- Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force) |
Posted By: paddyofurniture
Date Posted: December 24 2024 at 11:13am
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Just some lay about soon to be unemployed monkeys. ------------- Always looking for military manuals, Dodge M37 items,books on Berlin Germany, old atlases ( before 1946) , military maps of Scotland. English and Canadian gun parts. |
Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: December 24 2024 at 11:14am
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I'm more inclined to "Shade tree gunsmiff"? ------------- Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force) |
Posted By: britrifles
Date Posted: December 24 2024 at 12:17pm
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Seems very inconsistent with the quality of the Faz Mk 2 rifle production. And unlikely such a weld would pass MOD inspection. Possibly a less than typical unit armourer did this after the FTR, or even more likely, it was Bubba. |
Posted By: Stumpkiller
Date Posted: December 24 2024 at 6:05pm
Good trade . . . assuming it wasn't a SA marked Finnish Mosin (though I like my No 4 Mk 1/2 much better than my M39, the M39 shoots groups half the size of the No. 4 - working on that with reloads).
------------- Charlie P. Life is not about how fast you run, or how high you climb, but how well you bounce. |