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Topic: what is this
Posted By: shiloh
Subject: what is this
Date Posted: January 28 2025 at 1:58pm
https://www.ebay.ca/itm/235879655423?_skw=Universal+Sight+Lee+Enfield+SMLE+P14+and+No.4+Enfield+rifle+NR&itmmeta=01JJQEQ63WB0BEADZ3FNZEZPND&hash=item36eb85e7ff:g:7b4AAOSwhgdnZqcO&itmprp=enc%3AAQAJAAABIHoV3kP08IDx%2BKZ9MfhVJKkrzxfy0amceTK1VLh8NnMyFrpDSZrRy4gaT0Cbf%2FgwePlsA3enT88xaoa9wKq6rC9DfOgc0kpXSHvAuaPawxwgeSeXYy%2FQPH7zejEJkycYVA%2FEfF4PXmvSlddMqa2hcDHgFJ%2FjBgYsKJBHO35AigcHcA%2Bq7DulR%2Fb6FfiZ8nM6R3S848iWk4lmnNztbQBiDwInaDpQWE%2FS920yfBndxseNgfqYI69K6S9I29p53WHD9a7xhKAlsb%2BE1%2BXe2LSID2%2BCX5mFBaBmTtgUEtVH1klxSfAZJWwNOJZ5%2FEu63FZzOpdLg7ZPxiViEe1KZv9m%2FF5CC%2FvYy8E%2FqCyw6efbRav6k%2BxmVHuSkfxfzL8YpuP45g%3D%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR4ri3O6VZQ" rel="nofollow - https://www.ebay.ca/itm/235879655423?_skw=Universal+Sight+Lee+Enfield+SMLE+P14+and+No.4+Enfield+rifle+NR&itmmeta=01JJQEQ63WB0BEADZ3FNZEZPND&hash=item36eb85e7ff:g:7b4AAOSwhgdnZqcO&itmprp=enc%3AAQAJAAABIHoV3kP08IDx%2BKZ9MfhVJKkrzxfy0amceTK1VLh8NnMyFrpDSZrRy4gaT0Cbf%2FgwePlsA3enT88xaoa9wKq6rC9DfOgc0kpXSHvAuaPawxwgeSeXYy%2FQPH7zejEJkycYVA%2FEfF4PXmvSlddMqa2hcDHgFJ%2FjBgYsKJBHO35AigcHcA%2Bq7DulR%2Fb6FfiZ8nM6R3S848iWk4lmnNztbQBiDwInaDpQWE%2FS920yfBndxseNgfqYI69K6S9I29p53WHD9a7xhKAlsb%2BE1%2BXe2LSID2%2BCX5mFBaBmTtgUEtVH1klxSfAZJWwNOJZ5%2FEu63FZzOpdLg7ZPxiViEe1KZv9m%2FF5CC%2FvYy8E%2FqCyw6efbRav6k%2BxmVHuSkfxfzL8YpuP45g%3D%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR4ri3O6VZQ

Looking at this on ebay and the guys knows little. He calls it a Guilford sight claims its was made by P.A.M. ltd, who when I looked them up they made TV`s.
The seller is calling is a Universal SMLE Aperture sight.
Let the fun begin.




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Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: January 28 2025 at 2:07pm
Quite a few sights were "Universal" back then.
It was basically a 2-piece deal.
Part one was the "universal sight".
Part 2 was the mount to whatever it was universal for! & therein lies the catch! You have to find the mount, or it's universally useless!
Back then they were all ND/NT so they used existing bolts.
Shocked
My #9 sight is most commonly found with the mount for the "long Lees".

But I needed one for an S.M.L.E.

Till you find the mount its a tiny boat anchor!
Confused


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Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)


Posted By: shiloh
Date Posted: January 28 2025 at 3:49pm
Yes I figured as much.



Posted By: shiloh
Date Posted: January 29 2025 at 3:14am


Received this picture from the seller last night. This is one he sold last year complete with dog bone mount.
I figure this will be easy enough to make so I bought the sight. It`ll give me something to fiddle with.
Still have no idea who the maker is/was as there are no maker makes, patents etc. Truly a mystery sight for sure. If any of you fine gents have any info, pls chime in.







Posted By: Strangely Brown
Date Posted: January 29 2025 at 3:50am
Originally posted by shiloh shiloh wrote:

Truly a mystery sight for sure. If any of you fine gents have any info, pls chime in.

Around 1908  the NRA (UK) advertised for designs and prototypes of rifle sights which were to be judged and accessed for use in NRA Bisley competitions. 
I understand well over 100 sights were submitted; what ever happened to them all...? 



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Mick


Posted By: shiloh
Date Posted: January 29 2025 at 6:41am
I think I just bought one lol. I am a gluten for punishment.
At the very least, it`l give me something to do figuring out how to fashion a dog bone mount for it.


Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: January 29 2025 at 9:44am
Sweet! you now have a winter project!


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Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)



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