Looking to purchase first Enfield
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Topic: Looking to purchase first Enfield
Posted By: Zachar0ni
Subject: Looking to purchase first Enfield
Date Posted: November 07 2025 at 2:38pm
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he!!o, I'm looking to purchase this No.1 Mk.3* and was hoping someone could tell me more about it. I'm concerned with the DP on the stock but, it has a newer looking import mark on the one side which I would think make it shootable. Any info would be much appreciated. Thanks.        |
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Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: November 07 2025 at 5:01pm
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FR = Factory Repair. Something had to be fixed at a high enough level it went back for major work. AS always take great good care & caution with anything with "DP" stamps! Are there ant "DP"'s on the metal?
------------- Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force) |
Posted By: Neuraleanus
Date Posted: November 07 2025 at 6:22pm
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I think this rifle is a conversion to Mk II spec. I see a bolt release tab, but also a * on the receiver. So, I'm not sure whether this was originally a Mk I or a Mk I*. The DTE on the Butt Stock is an Indian Post independence ownership marking. ------------- Vivimus et morimur pollice verso |
Posted By: Zachar0ni
Date Posted: November 07 2025 at 6:46pm
| I did not see any DP stamps on any metal parts. |
Posted By: A square 10
Date Posted: November 07 2025 at 7:02pm
| interesting rifle - indian i believe , FR is their identification for a FTR at the factory |
Posted By: DisasterDog
Date Posted: November 07 2025 at 11:29pm
You’re thinking No.4s, this is a No.1 MkIII* that was scrubbed of its original markings when it was refurbished in India in 1944. The TDE stamp, as noted, is post-Independence Indian, and the forearm with tie strap corroborates features later than the FR’44. All in all, I’d bet this was restored from a sporter using DP furniture. A beer says the nosecap doesn’t match, hopefully the bolt actually does or I’d walk away from this deal.
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Neuraleanus wrote:Posted By: Neuraleanus
Date Posted: November 08 2025 at 6:25am
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Of course. I over-looked the lack of a rear sight. It helps to see the entire rifle. ------------- Vivimus et morimur pollice verso |
Posted By: DaBull57
Date Posted: November 08 2025 at 8:00am
| Hi, I have a 1950 GRI No.1 MK3 Enfield rifle in nice shape. The swivel band is stamped DP. This is the only part that has the DP stamp. Should I be concerned about the DP marked swivel band? |
Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: November 08 2025 at 11:45am
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Front swivel band, or something else? Any non pressure or load bearing part might be fine, but with anything "DP"d double check & take reasonable precautions. There was no "standard" for what was done to make a rifle "DP" so it might be nothing apart from wear, or metals could be de-tempered & so on which wouldn't be visible checkable. ALWAYS Fail/SAFE ------------- Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force) |
Posted By: A square 10
Date Posted: November 08 2025 at 4:03pm
| i agree with shamus caution , i would suspect that part got switched out with salvaged parts from a DP rifle by some previous owner |
Posted By: DaBull57
Date Posted: November 08 2025 at 4:21pm
| Thanks, Shamu and A square 10 for your replies. I probably will buy another sling swivel. Does anybody have any recommendations for a good place to order Enfield No.1 Mk3 parts. |
Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: November 08 2025 at 5:46pm
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"the Usual Suspects"!  Gun Parts corp (Numrich) https://www.gunpartscorp.com/gun-manufacturer/smle" rel="nofollow - https://www.gunpartscorp.com/gun-manufacturer/smle BRP corp https://www.brpguns.com/no-1-mk-3-stock-magazine-parts/" rel="nofollow - https://www.brpguns.com/no-1-mk-3-stock-magazine-parts/ APEX https://www.apexgunparts.com/rifles/bolt-action/lee-enfield/enfield-1-mkiii.html?product_list_limit=all" rel="nofollow - https://www.apexgunparts.com/rifles/bolt-action/lee-enfield/enfield-1-mkiii.html?product_list_limit=all & E-Pay! ------------- Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force) |
Posted By: Sapper740
Date Posted: November 09 2025 at 2:54am
| Personally, I'd be concerned about the 'Z' stamped into the receiver ring which could possibly denote needing repair. Ian Skennerton mentions variations of the 'Z' stamp in his book: "The Broad Arrow Mk 2". |
Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: November 09 2025 at 11:28am
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I was wondering about that, but can't decide if it's a prefix letter ( the serials went from "00001 to 99999 & then had a single advancing letter as the volume increased "A00001 to 99999" followed by B then C & so on or the dreaded "Z" (Returned to armory for condemnation series).  ------------- Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force) |
Posted By: A square 10
Date Posted: November 09 2025 at 3:36pm
| i think id look for another rifle |
Posted By: DaBull57
Date Posted: November 09 2025 at 5:48pm
| Thanks again Shamu for the list of gun part companies. I looked on Apex's website, and they sell a front swivel band with "DP" stamped on it for $26.50. Looks like the same swivel band that's on my Enfield now. |
Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: November 09 2025 at 6:36pm
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Ouch. ------------- Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force) |