p14 bullett
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Topic: p14 bullett
Posted By: Guests
Subject: p14 bullett
Date Posted: March 08 2006 at 11:06pm
| What is the correct military bullet size for this rifle and is it avaliable in the states? |
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Posted By: Eric
Date Posted: March 09 2006 at 6:04am
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The P-14 originally started out as a .276 caliber, but with the outbreak of WW1 the British decided to stick with the .303 british caliber, as that is what they were already producing for the No.1 Mk.III rifles. So, they rebarreled the P-14 to .303 British. The P-17 was a 30.06 caliber that was created from the US needing to produce a gun that shot their particular caliber. However, from what I understand, they are pretty close in appearance to the P-14. That's just what I've been told, I have never actually seen one up close. HTH, Eric |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: March 09 2006 at 12:14pm
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The Pat14 uses standard .303 dia bullets which start at .312 . Any
standard Factory bullet/.303 ammo will feed through your Pat14 ! You'd
be hard pressed to find any still in the .276 as I think apart from a
couple of experimental models they were all converted over to .303 Dave |
Posted By: Cookie Monster
Date Posted: March 09 2006 at 3:23pm
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craig fickling, I use.311 dia. bullets, they are common you can find them anywhere who carries re-loading supplies. I buy mine at sportsmen Warehouse. You can order on line as well. Cookie Monster |
Posted By: kombi76
Date Posted: March 15 2006 at 1:09pm
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O.k., lets take the silliness out of this thread and correct a few errors. The rifles now known as the Pattern 14 is essentially the same as the Pattern 13 rifle, a Mauser type bolt action designed to fire the revolutionary new .276 Enfield. After some fairly embarassing losses at the hands of Boer commandoes using the 7x57 round Old Blighty decided to update to a rimless 7mm cartridge with serious thump. Unfortunately was plagued with 2 problems. Firstly, it was practically on par with the 7mm Rem Mag meaning soldiers complained of recoil and inaccuracy as a result. And secondly, the Britsh government ran out of money when WW1 arrived. As such the P13 was adapted to fire 303 British and renamed the P14. They ordered a reasonable amount of these rifles from US manufacturers only to renige on the purchase later crying poor. As such the US Govt took a good hard look at the P14 decided it was perfect for reconversion back to a rimmed cartridge, namely their relatively new 30-06 cartridge, and rebarreled and altered the bolt face and other parts accordingly. It was then renamed(again!) the M17 and many saw service in WW1 in the hands of US servicemen. P14 rifles as such don't fire anything different to a SMLE or Martini Enfield. In fact the P14 was possibly adapted with the MkVII round(174gn spitzer @ 2440fps) than any other model of .303 service rifle. ------------- Cheers & God Bless Sporting Shooters Association of Australia - www.ssaa.org.au |
Posted By: willie
Date Posted: September 07 2006 at 4:45am
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We should clear up just a little more here! The "Pattern 14" and "Pattern 17" designations were used primarily within the factories producing the British .303 and the US Model .30 caliber rifles. It was never intended to be used outside by the mainstream military/civilian user as a proper designation for these rifles as neither is correct. They are more slang terms than proper. The other thing is that during the war build-up of arms, that is the predicted requirement, it was less expensive for the US government to convert already prepared British arms from the .303 to the US .30 caliber than to retool the big three factories. Retooling to produce the US Model 1903, which was a consideration at the time, wouldhave been very expensive and time prohibitive. Just my two cents ;-) ------------- "Coaching isn't an addition to a leader's job, it's an integral part of it." - George S. Odiorne |
Posted By: White Rhino
Date Posted: September 08 2006 at 6:14am
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Hey! did i hear Sportsmans Warehouse? Man I wish we had one of those
down here. I went into one in wichita KS. while i was up visiting my Sister's
Good thing i had my Daughter with me or i wood have missed out on visiting with the family that afternoon. Its probobly almost the best sporting goods store that I've been in. it beats acadamy hands down!!!!
Found my decaping pins there for my RCBS 9mm Die.
well i guess i will have to stick with Houma Auto Parts for my reloading supplies.
The"White Rhino" ------------- "White Rhino" "Everybody's got to believe in something. I believe I'll have another beer." --W. C. Fields |
Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: September 11 2006 at 9:08am
Think of it this way, WR...While ur there, you can get some tail light lenses fer yer mustang, & a carb fer yer old Dodge while yer at it! All in one felled swoop..No waiting!(Now THATS efficiency!) 
Hoadie ------------- Loose wimmen tightened here |
White Rhino wrote:Posted By: White Rhino
Date Posted: September 12 2006 at 6:01am
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Hoadie, they only have a 4x8 peg board of car parts, and i havent really paid them much attention. I only know that because one of my buddies commented on it after we left. ------------- "White Rhino" "Everybody's got to believe in something. I believe I'll have another beer." --W. C. Fields |