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Topic: New here
Posted By: maxsimmons
Subject: New here
Date Posted: March 29 2008 at 1:15am
Hello, all--as of yesterday, I am now the owner of short-stock Lithgow SMLE III* 1941 (the other side is marked, "FTR B 91256"). I don't know what any of that jargon means yet, but I'm looking forward to learning and had a ball putting my first 20 rounds through it yesterday--although that brass buttplate is punishing!
 
You all have put together a great site, and I'm sure I will learn a lot here.
 
Cheers!



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Posted By: Tikirocker
Date Posted: March 29 2008 at 1:24am
You have an Australian built rifle from a classic period of No1 MKIII manufacture. The FTR proof means "Factory Thorough Repair" so your rifle went back to the depot/factory for a total rebuild at some point in it's life. Usually there will be a date somewhere on the rifle to indicate the date of FTR ... you will likely find this on your barrel and it will be a 1950's date as many of these went through FTR to serve with Aussie troops during Korea.




Posted By: maxsimmons
Date Posted: March 29 2008 at 1:30am
Wow--thanks! There is an "MA 55" stamp at the receiver and an MA 54 at the rear sight housing. Are those the 1950s dates you're referring to?


Posted By: Tikirocker
Date Posted: March 29 2008 at 1:39am

Yup ... those will be your FTR dates ... so you have a 54/55 FTR. Your rifle would have seen action in any one of multiple theaters during WW2 - Australian troops were in ( The Rats of Tobruk ) Tobruk in North Africa and were instrumantal in beating back Rommels Afrika Korp, they were in Europe and  the Pacific conflict in Papua New Guinea as well as Burma etc etc - then your rifle went to Korea more than likely and got the crap shot out of it there and had to be FTR'd as a result. It's a fine piece of history so look after it. Wink

If you really want to know more about the history of your rifle do some searches on the Australian Military during WW2 and Korea ... there's plenty of proud history in those rifles since we used the No1 MKIII's for both WW1, WW2 and Korea. Try this ... http://www.awm.gov.au/korea/ausinkorea/army/army2.htm

Quote Aussie ... Soldiers also had to cope with extremes of temperature, with heat as well as cold. The pervading, numbing cold of the winters is well remembered by veterans. Soldiers slept with their guns to their chests, to keep the parts from freezing up. Living and fighting in this climate posed a constant struggle, creating difficulties with transport, the movement and maintenance of supplies and the soldiers' health. Australian soldiers were eventually issued with better protective clothing by the Americans and British.










Posted By: Tikirocker
Date Posted: March 29 2008 at 2:33am
Here's another to get historical perspective of the Lithgow No1 MKIII* rifle.

Aussies in Tobruk ..








Posted By: maxsimmons
Date Posted: March 29 2008 at 9:30am
I will definitely take good care of it. I always wonder what stories these rifles could tell if they could talk.
 
This one seems to be a shooter, too--it took 15 rounds for me to dial it in, but the next five were all within three or so inches of each other at 100 yards from the bench. Hopefull I can improve with practice. But the brass butt plate kicks my ass!
 
Question: mine only has a half-stock in the fore-end rather than the full-length shown in these pictures. Could this have been a military modification, or is this more likely something a civilian did later?
 
Thanks for all your help!


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: March 29 2008 at 11:12am
G'day Mate .Your Rifle has been sporterized by a previous owner . This is not a uncommon practice ! Having used Enfields for over 40yrs ,I can attest to this practice ,although collectors & Purists frown on this practice ,it must be remembered that over here in Australia for years Enfields were looked upon as being a cheap scrub rifle that would handle being knocked about & come up shining every time!  The first thing I was ever taught when I began my career as a Pro Shooter was the fact that the most important tools for gunsmithing out bush ,were ......A large bladed screw driver ,Hacksaw blade & a Triangular file .All used to modify the rifle to our standads !

     Dave


Posted By: Cookie Monster
Date Posted: March 29 2008 at 11:30am
dave agreed the springfields were once thought of like that here till a few years ago.


Posted By: ikesdad
Date Posted: March 30 2008 at 5:05am
Originally posted by Cookie Monster Cookie Monster wrote:

dave agreed the springfields were once thought of like that here till a few years ago.
 
...and you could'nt give an Enfield away.


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Pro Deo et Patria


Posted By: A square 10
Date Posted: March 30 2008 at 5:08am
welcome , you do realise youve just sucombed to an addiction dont you ? and started with one of the more potent of the enfeild variants , i predictr you ill soon find anouther you must have and eventaly have many as those of us who prceeded you into oblivion ,
 
again , welcome , and congrats on your new rifle


Posted By: maxsimmons
Date Posted: March 30 2008 at 1:05pm
"Addiction" is probably too appropriate. I've already been all over the internet gazing at "period" slings, ammo pouches, stripper clips and reading everything I can find.
 
As if the addict needs more drug, a friend also introduced me to "gunbroker.com" which basically looks like e-bay and is lousy with Enfields--I want one of each.


Posted By: Lithgow
Date Posted: March 30 2008 at 2:50pm
Hi max, If it is only the forend that has been cut then it wouldnt be much of a problem to get it back to original.

stock sets are available and the rest of the hardware is not a problem.

And yeah you are right dave, not so long ago 303's were all over the place and nobody wanted them. I know of one station over here that had 8 of them as knock about rifles, They used to get them from the APB I believe.

Imagine the Govt handing out enfields now or any other firearm for that matter.



Posted By: Hatchetman
Date Posted: March 30 2008 at 6:13pm
Max... before hoadie comes and rips your head off, the correct term is "chargers" not "stripper clips"

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But the winters coming,

And the snow will cover tracks,

And I'll be watching,

Because I'm hunting you



- Sarah Blasko, The Gardens End


Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: March 30 2008 at 10:37pm
Well..what doya know?? I must be making some progress with you heathens after all!! Atta boy Hatchet!!Tell him!
Hoadie

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Loose wimmen tightened here


Posted By: No4Enfield
Date Posted: March 31 2008 at 9:22am
Welcome to the sickness!


Posted By: SW28fan
Date Posted: March 31 2008 at 12:02pm
Another Welcome

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Have a Nice Day
If already having a nice day please disregard


Posted By: maxsimmons
Date Posted: April 01 2008 at 1:08am

Right! Whipped dog, wiser dog.




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