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Topic: Stock help
Posted By: SW28fan
Subject: Stock help
Date Posted: June 25 2010 at 2:21pm
Ok I was dumb and Lazy.Ouch
 It appears I ordered a No4Mk1 Forend for the  No4 Mk 1/3 I am restoring
I just had the sad realization that the forends are different. Can a No4 Mk 1 be modified to a no4 MK2  (1/3) type or should I Just bite the bullet and get a proper No4 MK II forend?


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Posted By: Cookie Monster
Date Posted: June 25 2010 at 10:57pm
Interesting SW28fan don't know I would have to compare the two. let us know


Posted By: sabretech2001
Date Posted: June 26 2010 at 3:20am

It's not that hard, actually. You'll need a hacksaw, a drill, and a sharp chisel. Look at pictures of post-war FTR'd MkI and MkI* rifles to see the patch they used for the conversion to Mk2.

And since the grain of the wood runs fore and aft, you'll need to do all the chisel work from behind (down, Hoadie!) so you don't mistakenly take out a chunk of wood you shouldn't.



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FTR (F) 1954 Mk1/3
No4 Mk2 ROF(F) 5/50
No2A1 RFI 1966


Posted By: White Rhino
Date Posted: June 26 2010 at 5:36am
Whats the difference ??? I could go out to the Gun Shop and See if I may have what Your looking for and We could trade possibly ....  I just have never knew there was a difference till now ... Most of My No.4 wood is bought sight unseen and I dont really know what Im getting when I buy it ...

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Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: June 26 2010 at 6:34am
The Mk1 has a solid rear end, braced by a sheet metal crosspiece.
Because of the brazed on hanger for the trigger the Mk2 ( & Mk2 conversions) have this area open as 2 sides divided by a cut in the center into which the trigger hanger goes.
The stock halves are clamped to the hanger by a cross bolt.

The easiest way to tell them apart installed is the reinforcing method.
A sheet metal bracket riveted to the wood is a Mk 1, a hole for a cross bolt & no sheet metal is a #2


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Posted By: SW28fan
Date Posted: July 02 2010 at 10:39am
Well I broke down and ordered a No4 Mk2 Forend figuring I would put the best looking one on the rifle. There was also  the possibility I would screw up the conversion of the Mk1 to Mk2.
 
 It arrived today and it is Blonde.
 
I am in love!Embarrassed
 
Now where can I get a blonde buttstock and handguards.
 


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Posted By: madcratebuilder
Date Posted: July 02 2010 at 11:59pm
Lot of them on evil bay, try calling Springfield sporters.

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Posted By: White Rhino
Date Posted: July 03 2010 at 7:40am
Originally posted by Shamu Shamu wrote:

The Mk1 has a solid rear end, braced by a sheet metal crosspiece.
Because of the brazed on hanger for the trigger the Mk2 ( & Mk2 conversions) have this area open as 2 sides divided by a cut in the center into which the trigger hanger goes.
The stock halves are clamped to the hanger by a cross bolt.

The easiest way to tell them apart installed is the reinforcing method.
A sheet metal bracket riveted to the wood is a Mk 1, a hole for a cross bolt & no sheet metal is a #2


Are You talking about the cross bolt you see on the Ishys ????


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Posted By: SW28fan
Date Posted: July 03 2010 at 12:06pm



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Posted By: Cookie Monster
Date Posted: July 03 2010 at 1:35pm
Coping saw time


Posted By: White Rhino
Date Posted: July 03 2010 at 11:33pm
Thanks SW28fan , pictures are worth a 1000 words !

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Posted By: SW28fan
Date Posted: July 06 2010 at 10:26am
Well I called Springfield Sporters and they said they have rest of the blonde wood I need. I received a box today with the metal 'bits and bobs' so by the end of the month I hope to be shooting it.Smile
 
 


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Posted By: Cookie Monster
Date Posted: July 06 2010 at 11:41am
Keep us apprised


Posted By: SW28fan
Date Posted: July 09 2010 at 1:43pm
The box from Springfield Sporters arrived. The buttstock is blonde and unissued and it required a bit of fitting but I think I have it right. The wood just got a coat of Boiled linseed oil and I shall put the rifle together tomorrow, pictures to followSmile

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Posted By: Cookie Monster
Date Posted: July 09 2010 at 10:52pm
Smile Great fan !


Posted By: SW28fan
Date Posted: July 09 2010 at 11:57pm
Here it is Completed:
 
 


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Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: July 10 2010 at 5:31am
Much nicer now the collar & cuffs match.Hug

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Posted By: airforcediver
Date Posted: July 11 2010 at 6:54am
WOW, I am green with rage/envy Tongue  Very nice piece of kit you have yourself now.
 
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