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Topic: Avro Lancaster's weapons
Posted By: Cookie Monster
Subject: Avro Lancaster's weapons
Date Posted: January 20 2011 at 11:00am

Eight 303 in machine-guns. Nose Gunner:- 2 X 0.303" Browning machine guns, 14,000 rounds. Fire Power 300 rounds/minute each. Frazer Nash Turret. Mid Upper Gunner:- 2 X 0.303" Browning machine guns, 12,000 rounds. Fire Power 300 rounds/minute each.

Frazer Nash Turret. Rear Gunner:- 4 X 0.303" Browning machine guns, 10,000 rounds. Fire Power 300 rounds/minute each. Mounted in a Frazer Nash Turret. Hydraulically operated. Early in 1944 a new turret by Rose was becoming evident. It was equipped with 2 X 0.5" Browning machine guns and was mainly used by No.1 Group. This turret was large enough to house two gunners.



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Posted By: ArcherSix
Date Posted: January 20 2011 at 7:41pm
isn't 300 rpm low for a Browning, assuming we're talking about a 1919 model?
 
those are beautiful planes btw.


Posted By: Cookie Monster
Date Posted: January 21 2011 at 8:40am
Archer that information may be for the Vicker which had a slower cycle rate this information was given to me I did not research it


Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: January 21 2011 at 12:29pm
I have been in the tail turret of a Lanc.It traversed by hand crank.Most T/G's removed the perspex pane in their front & were "face to face" with mother nature.
The poor T/Gs were no match for the Hispano cannons mounted in the German planes.
I read the last letter my buddie's mother recieved from her brother, before he was shot down.
"...Monica, I may as well be throwing popcorn at them, for all the good it does."

Sadly, only 2 left flying in the world, now.One here in Hamilton,Ontario & one in England.
Still, the purr of those Merlins is UNMISTAKABLE! When she's joined with the Spit & a "Hurry", it just about makes ya cry.
Beautiful
Hoadie

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Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: January 22 2011 at 10:07pm
F.O.I.: the Fraser Nash mid upper turret was model FN.50.The armament was Brownings, It had the biggest bomb bay of ALL bombers of WWII.It was a 1936 design.It was derived from the MANCHESTER bomber.BUT..that programme was spurred by the first flight of the Boeing 299- a year earlier-later to become the B-17.299 displayed combination of defensive & offensive arms,speed,altitude & range.RAF wanted something superior.THIS was the way of future airwar.
Germany was now the likley enemy-so range had to be @ least 2,000 miles,& defend itself in DAYLIGHT.
Fraser Nash was developed by 2 Ex-Royal Flyind Corp pilots."Tommy"Thompson & "Archie"Fraser-Nash.
See..I know ALL KINDS o useless stuff!
Hoadie

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Posted By: paddyofurniture
Date Posted: March 06 2013 at 10:07am

My Uncle Walter was a Lancaster PO in the RCAF. He was shot down in 1944 and buried in Rheinberg Germany.



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Posted By: muffett.2008
Date Posted: March 06 2013 at 4:46pm
My favourite recollections of my father, were the trips to Williamstown RAAF base for Airshows back in the mid 50's.
 Lancasters and Lincolns were beautiful to a young boy, filled with war stories and wide eyed at the majestic aircraft, I was an eager player when asked if I would like to sit in the cockpit or gunners seat.


Posted By: paddyofurniture
Date Posted: March 06 2013 at 11:05pm
I am envious of you. 

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Posted By: muffett.2008
Date Posted: March 07 2013 at 2:39am
Don't be, my father was killed when I was nine, left a big hole in my life.


Posted By: paddyofurniture
Date Posted: March 07 2013 at 3:41am
I am sorry for your loss.

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Posted By: Rockape2
Date Posted: March 11 2013 at 7:26am
Fingers crossed soon to be another in England that will take to the sky. Two brothers have owned a Lancaster as a memorial to there older brother who died while aircrew in a lancaster. The aircraft has been allowed to do taxi runs but not to take to the air, now new engine are being fitted so we may see her fly again.
I had the honour to have a flight in the rear turret of the Battle of Britain Memorial flight Lanc some 25+ years ago. 


Posted By: paddyofurniture
Date Posted: March 11 2013 at 7:46am
That must have been quite a ride.

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Posted By: Rockape2
Date Posted: March 11 2013 at 8:00am
Yes it was. I was stationed there and had just finished my duty, when they were taking her up for a test flight after doing engine runs after a major service. It was right place right time. Never forget that trip, we flew over Lincoln Cathederal when the Spitfire and Hurricain joined us, they were also doing test flights. 


Posted By: paddyofurniture
Date Posted: March 11 2013 at 8:29am
Wow!

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Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: March 11 2013 at 12:03pm
I can hear the Merlins! Nothing like 'em on THIS planet!
Hoadie

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Posted By: EnfieldNut82
Date Posted: March 11 2013 at 12:15pm
Wow,
I saw a lancaster here in my local airshow. That thing was a amazing plane one of my favorite bombers from ww2.
I can't imagine riding in one. I just thought it was amazing walking through a b 17
thanks
Scott


Posted By: paddyofurniture
Date Posted: March 11 2013 at 12:18pm
hoadie,

I have hear them as well and the sound of a Merlin is very cool.

One of the many great sounds in this world.


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Posted By: muffett.2008
Date Posted: March 11 2013 at 6:17pm
My Army days had me tasked to use my Tech Support SQN, to move Centurion tanks onto the live firing ranges at Singleton. The interesting thing about these tanks, was though they were not mobile due to track and suspension problems, the Engines were recently installed, one had never turned over.
 Now as these engines are Meteors, which is the detuned Merlin, I had a bit of a chat to the boss and after a couple of calls to a mate that owned his own Warbirds Museum, the promise of a donation to Range Control composite mess funds and a couple of cartons, I got the job of lifting the engines and the donkeys as a training exercise.

 Now as you can imagine, this blew out into a he!! of a job, the time requirement was tight due to a live firing exercise slotted in the next 30 hrs. Now the good book tells us that this job takes so many hours/days.......bugger, fast forward, we had them out in a fraction of the time, but the bloody armourers wanted the new barrel and breechblock to,I managed to scrape them out of there just as the crap started to whiz around.

 Back to the point of the story, my mate Col. Pay had a Spitty amongst his collection, so the bottom ends were good for spares, he had also just slotted a merlin into his mustang, more oomph he reckoned, but the best part about it all, it wasn't too long before one of his crop dusters started to make some very interesting sounds, it looked like that old airframe became a test bed for just about everything, it eventually ended up as a water bomber, it had that much power, and he was running the standard  low compression meteor heads.

 Col's dead now, went the way good pilots go, quick. His son keeps the planes flying, they tear up the sky over the town, you can pick them all just from the sound, just need to remember it may not be a warbird, but still the same merlin sound. Beer To absent comrades.  


Posted By: paddyofurniture
Date Posted: March 11 2013 at 11:16pm
To absent comrades. 

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Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: March 12 2013 at 1:42am
Detuned Merlins of several types are in use for all sorts of high powered piston engine applications. I've seen a couple of them in racing boats as well.
Mostly it was non-supercharged & compression was lowered so you didn't need avgas 115/130 to run 'em on. God help a mechanic who dropped something in the Vee, the ignition HT wiring, top end oil feeds & fuel injection piping in there was a complete rats nest. Smart Merlin tech's had a belt made of string with every tool attached to it by a short length of string only a couple of inchec longer than the arm. If you did drop something you could just fish it back out again.
There used to be a guy in the U.K. who had one in a panel van! It took up most of the internal cargo space & he used it for demos as a warm up at race tracks. I once asked him how fast is was & he said he didn't know because after 110 MPH the aerodynaics of a Ford Transit induced uncontrollable rear end wobble!


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Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: March 12 2013 at 9:18am
The Lanc here flies over fairly often(not often enuf for me!) They frequently fly the falls(that would be Niagara).You can hear her coming & going.
Number years back I could here the Merlins coming-but couldn't place 'em.Turns out they were coming back from the Genesseo Bomber fly in, in NYS. She was coming by LOW & slow from the falls & over the city.When she appeared over the trees into view she had the Hurricane & Spit with her.The echoing from all those engines had quite an effect-to say the least
Hoadie

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Posted By: paddyofurniture
Date Posted: March 12 2013 at 9:22am
hoadie,

I think it was really the "Mother ship" look for you to take you home.


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Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: March 12 2013 at 11:24am
Well, THAT mothership I would LOVE to ride in! Evry year there is raffle tix sold for a flight in her.Others sold for the Mitchel & Harvard(T-6 for you 'Mercan types)
Hoadie

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Posted By: muffett.2008
Date Posted: March 12 2013 at 5:48pm
The old Harvard tears up the sky here quite often, very similar design to our Wirraway.


Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: March 12 2013 at 6:00pm
Fortunatley-we have quite a few Harvards(with a few Yales mixed in) round here.They make quite a racket when they fly together.(Somethin bout those big engines & wood props give 'em a distinctive GROWL)
Hoadie

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Posted By: muffett.2008
Date Posted: March 12 2013 at 6:02pm
 We cop Oscars, Kittys, Hurricanes, you name it we just need to identify it, not easy with all the light air traffic and the rich kids and their jets and choppers.
 But you never forget the beat of a big radial or a V12 or the harmonising sounds of twins and fours. 


Posted By: paddyofurniture
Date Posted: March 12 2013 at 9:54pm
hoadie,

How much for a ticket?

I love hearing the sound of the big blocks and the beat of the propellers.



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Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: March 13 2013 at 1:11am
Harvards/Texans/SNJs have a very distinctive noise because the prop tips cause transonic compressability (mini sonic booms) at high revs.
Theres a team comprised of collectors that fly lots of different versions do airshows round here. Noisy as all get out when they do a group takeoff with all the props at max revs & in fine pitch!


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Posted By: paddyofurniture
Date Posted: March 13 2013 at 2:02am
Sounds good to me.

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Posted By: muffett.2008
Date Posted: March 13 2013 at 4:17am
Interesting how we lost interest in the guns and got to engines.
 We started at the tail and now we're at the prop, might need to talk about wingtips to have the subject fully covered.Clap


Posted By: Tony
Date Posted: March 13 2013 at 4:36am
Perhaps you should refrain from being sarcastic!


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Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: March 13 2013 at 4:41am
Oh man! NOW what did I do? Geez..seems I bin steppin in it all week round here.
Hoadie

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Posted By: muffett.2008
Date Posted: March 13 2013 at 5:37am
Originally posted by muffett.2008 muffett.2008 wrote:

Interesting how we lost interest in the guns and got to engines.
 We started at the tail and now we're at the prop, might need to talk about wingtips to have the subject fully covered.Clap
 
    Not you Hoadie, he means me.      


Posted By: paddyofurniture
Date Posted: March 13 2013 at 5:45am
While we are talking about guns and Lancaster.

Did RCAF flight crews or any Lancaster crew carry firearms?




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Posted By: muffett.2008
Date Posted: March 13 2013 at 5:52am
Dunno Paddy, Brit crews carried revolvers.


Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: March 13 2013 at 7:22am
I know the later day combat crews do.I never thought to ask any of the vets..it never crossed my mind. I do know there was a signal gun(vary light?) on board the bombers-at least for a while, anyway.(no idea why)
Hoadie

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Posted By: paddyofurniture
Date Posted: March 13 2013 at 8:35am
Using a  signal gun on a  Lancaster took guts or you had to be nuts.

Flying around in a Lancaster with all that fuel.

What if there is a fuel leak or some other type of combat damage and you go off and shot your  signal gun.

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Posted By: EnfieldNut82
Date Posted: March 13 2013 at 8:39am
Were signal guns used to say that their was injuried on board? I know american b 17s carried signal guns and would shoot a flare off and would be allowed to be at the front of the formation and when coming in to land would fire off a flare to let ground personal to get ready with ambulances because of wounded on board. Just a thought.



Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: March 13 2013 at 9:21am
maybe...I never thot to ask. If your returning, chances are you dont have much gas...headed out your full-less of a risk
Hoadie

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Posted By: paddyofurniture
Date Posted: March 13 2013 at 9:46am
If you could please hoadie if,  by the chance arise, ask?

About personal firearms

About the use of the signal gun

Thanks,

Ed




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Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: March 13 2013 at 12:15pm
Well, I'll try.There isnt many of them left, now. Doc Hannah checked out last year.He was my main "conduit" for that stuff on Lancs.I'll sniff around the Legion tho.(As long as that old lady doesnt catch me doin it!She asked me last week if I wanted some "super sex", I said SURE! what kinda soup ya got?)
Hoadie

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Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: March 13 2013 at 9:38pm
Bit O/T but have any of you heard about the old WW2 "goon baiting" tricks from POWs?
 
There was a tradittion of busting the chops of German guards & Germans in general. One of the favourites was the "Jane" heavy bomber. It supposedly had 8 Huntley & palmer engines with Peak Freen wingtip powered turrets!
 
"Jane" was a long-running cartoon strip in the newspaper & new guys were invariably asked about the latest happenings to "jane". The Germans interrogated prisoners, thinking that there was a "secret project" under discussion. Huntley & Palmer made cookies & so did Peak Freens there never was such a factory.
 
The Germans spent a huge amount of time trying to find the factory so they could bomb it before the British super heavy bomber could become operatioinal.


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Posted By: paddyofurniture
Date Posted: March 13 2013 at 11:24pm
While married to my first wife while I in the Army I returned from a 6-8 week field training trip.

My wife told me I was getting something really special tonight. I asked who is coming over?

Shot down in flames.


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Posted By: LE Owner
Date Posted: March 14 2013 at 12:10pm
The RAF .303 Browning MkII
As used in the Wellington and Lancaster gun turrets.
Specifications
Calibre: 0.303in
Weight: 21 lb 14 oz
Muzzle velocity: 2,660 ft/sec
Rate of fire: 1,150 rpm
Maximum Range: 3,000 ft
Length: 3 ft 8.5 in
 
PS
Some sources on MGs quote recommended rate of fire rather than maximum cyclic rate of fire.
Its not uncommon for air cooled guns to be limited in actual effective rate of fire due to concerns of over heating, with short bursts recommended for best reliability.
 
Another possibility is that the standard RAF ammo belts for the .303 RAF Browning held 300-333 RPG (rounds per gun) the OP source may have confused rounds per gun with rounds per minute.


Posted By: paddyofurniture
Date Posted: March 14 2013 at 11:33pm
Is the .303 Browning MkII ammo the same ammo as we use in our No1 Mk III and No 4?

The reason I ask I recall see some 303 ammo made by Remington or Winchester in my friend's reloading bench. Per my friend's it was not to be used for MG as there was a issue and it was to hot for rifles.

Is this correct?


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Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: March 15 2013 at 12:33am
Some ammo is clearly stamped "NOT FOR AIRCRAFT USE"
Hoadie

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Posted By: paddyofurniture
Date Posted: March 15 2013 at 1:53am
I did not see any "NOT FOR AIRCRAFT USE "on the boxes.





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Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: March 15 2013 at 2:05am
There was "aircraft issue" .303 Brit ammo, but it was just a higher QC for FTF than "regular" ammo as you couldn't go climbing out on the wings in a dogfigt to clear a malfunction or head seperation. Wing guns had pneumatic re-cocking in the event of a jam, or a dud round, but anything more than that & you were in deep do-do.
I think your friend is confusing the Mk VII, the Mk VIIz, & the Mk8z ammunition. The Mk VII was "regular ball ammo", the Mk VIIz was just Mk VII, but loaded with stick nitro-cellulose powder instead of Cordite, but the Mk 8z was designed for "longer range shooting with machine guns". Because of the "long range" tag, many assumed it had a more powerful charge, making it unsafe in bolt actions. The actual difference was the bullet!
 
Unlike the flat base Mk VII bullet the Mk 8 bullet had a stepped down boat tail design, which made it more efficient at long range.


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Posted By: paddyofurniture
Date Posted: March 15 2013 at 2:24am
Thank you  Shamu. I tip my hat to you Sir!

I have learned something new today about Enfields and that is why this board is so great.

Now I will have to make a phone call, get an invite to come over, buy a six pack, and see about doing some ammo trading.






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Posted By: LE Owner
Date Posted: March 16 2013 at 5:08am
The RAF machineguns were designed to use cartridges with cordite propellent, though they could use other ammo if necessary.
In order the be reliable when using cordite the muzzle nut was redesigned and chrome lined.
 
The tracer mixture in use at the time could be hard to ignite at high altitude where ammo became chilled in the thin air, the high temperature of cordite improved ignition of the compound.
 
The RAF .303 machine guns were a scaled down version of a older .50 Colt/Browning design, scaled down to suit the .303. Alterations were made to prevent the gun from jamming up due to Gee forces in dives and turns.
A side note. If any of these guns jammed on a 300 round belt the armor who serviced it could face fines or jail time. I suppose defective ammo could be a viable defense.
This kept the armorers on their toes, and made certain the guns were clean as a whistle before each mission.


Posted By: paddyofurniture
Date Posted: March 16 2013 at 5:39am
Brave men using these guns and highly trained / motivated men backing them up.

I would not want to be on the receiving end.


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Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: March 16 2013 at 12:09pm
Well Paddy..the other side was just as diligent.
By the by..you any relation to that tennis pro...Manuel Labour?
Hoadie

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Posted By: LE Owner
Date Posted: March 16 2013 at 2:08pm
About ammo quality.
Unless ammunition passed a timed ignition test by lots it would not be used in synchronized fueselage mounted guns.
Also due to out of spec cases of much WW1 ammunition the RAF first began inspections and then buying ammo only from those manufacturers whose ammunition was of the best quality, with cases as close as possible to the minimum specified dimensions.
Later on starting in 1918 the RAF contracted for aerial gun ammunition seperately from the rest of the military.
The Green carton markings (cross or round spot) of the carefully inspected ammo, and the Red Label of RAF only ammo was the begining of high accuracy ammo for snipers and target shooters.
Snipers liked to buy or steal RAF ammo when the opportunity presented itself.


Posted By: paddyofurniture
Date Posted: March 16 2013 at 8:47pm
Originally posted by hoadie hoadie wrote:

Well Paddy..the other side was just as diligent.
By the by..you any relation to that tennis pro...Manuel Labour?
Hoadie


You got me on that one Hoadie, very funny.




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Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: July 14 2013 at 10:41am
Well=-what a day! We flew down to Genesseo N.Y. for the air show, featuring WWII aircraft.
There was a huge salute to the veterans.
But for all the warbirds that were there, NOTHING could compare to what the LANCASTER did.
There was a HUGE crowd(record breaking by their announcements.) First the Canadian Spitfire & Huuricane took to the air-with quite a bit of excitement & attention.After they finished they buggered off.
That's when you could hear the guttural rumbling. As the announcer said-"here's what we've all been waiting for folks..the Avro Lancaster!!" As she taxied up that grass strip past the spectators..I've never seen anything like it! EVERY SINGLE PERSON-including the food & merchandise vendors stopped and gawked! There was a mad rush to the side of the field..cameras clicking..she just creeeped on by. She got to the end & started her run-up..the galleries were SILENT.I've never seen a gallery so quite as I did when she came down that strip with those Merlins growlin! She used the whole runway. When she went airborne, there was this HUGE cheer. WOW. After she did her fly pasts, the Spit & the Hurricane formed up with her, & did a whole new series.You talk about a show stopper!!Holy Mackeral..there was people JUMPIN up and down!I never seen anything like that. On the static line there was a perpetual crowd around her. If I knew how to post-I'd show you a few pics. I'm just astounded by the American's response to her. I was sitting for a while beside a WWII B-17 aircrewman.He told me that was the FIRST time he ever saw one.He heard about them when he was over there..but because he bombed in daytime, & RAF did nighttime, they never massed up.
What a day
Hoadie

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Posted By: paddyofurniture
Date Posted: July 14 2013 at 11:41pm
WOW, WOW!

I wish I was there.

You lucky dog you Hoadie, I am envious.


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Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: July 15 2013 at 6:38am
Your right..I WAS a lucky dog. But it goes to prove one thing...judging by the reaction of the spectators...she truly is: "QUEEN OF THE SKIES"!
Hoadie

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Posted By: paddyofurniture
Date Posted: July 15 2013 at 6:42am
Any photos?

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Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: July 15 2013 at 7:16am
some..but I dunno how to post 'em
Hoadie

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Posted By: paddyofurniture
Date Posted: July 15 2013 at 9:30am
Rats!

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Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: July 15 2013 at 9:45am
gimme your addy..I'll send some to you
Hoadie

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Posted By: paddyofurniture
Date Posted: July 15 2013 at 10:10am
Thanks Hoadie!

I will post them on the board and return them to you.

Thanks,

Ed

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Posted By: paddyofurniture
Date Posted: July 16 2013 at 10:13am
And not a message and photos from Hoadie.

"First pic is of our ride & the folks I went with.

The guy in blue(Legion uniform)is my buddy Joe.Guys in white shirts are KVA. 2 of them are PPCLI.

I hope you can enlarge these pics.

Cheers!

Hoadie"

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Posted By: paddyofurniture
Date Posted: July 16 2013 at 10:20am
Hoadie,

Do I have this right?

PPCLI is the "Princess Patricia's Canadian Light Infantry "

KVA is the " Korea Veterans Association of Canada"

Sometime this old gray haired melon head can not remember anything right.




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Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: July 16 2013 at 8:50pm
Yep! Those 2 PPCLI are verterans of KAPYONG ! The man on extreme left is Romeo. He's the president of the Niagara KVA. He was flown to Korea to do the documentary on Kapyong, few years back. He is the man that called the stonk down on their own position(over radio-following orders). The Kiwis asked twice if he was certain, as they knew that was the Canadian's position. After it was confirmed they opened up the barage. By that time they were damn near hand to hand with the Chinese. When the barrage had lifted, the Canucks were still on the hill. Chinese thought they were crazy people..maybe they were - but they held and bought time for the Americans to retreat up the valley. They were the only thing standing between the Chinese and the fall of Saigon.To this day, the PPCLI is the ONLY foreign military unit to have a U.S. Presidential citation / battle honour.It was presented by the President for their stand at Kapyong.
Proud to know these gentlemen.Sadly, theres less than 15 Korean vets left in Niagara. They have a very high early mortality rate, due to the "agent purple" they were exposed to.
Hoadie

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Posted By: paddyofurniture
Date Posted: July 16 2013 at 11:55pm
I tip my my beer mug to them.

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Posted By: Zed
Date Posted: July 17 2013 at 5:14am

This is what they used in the .303 machine guns, as mentioned by LE earlier in he post. I was given these 2 boxes by a friend. Don't intend using it though


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Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: July 21 2013 at 12:24pm
OH! twas a glorious day again today. There I was..mindin me own biz, when I could hear the distant sound..growin ever louder...and louder still...no mistake, they were MERLINS! Twas the Lancaster. Dunno where she was goin, but she was doin it in style! As usual.
She didn't make a return trip. so I assume she went stateside again.
Recon I'll cath her next week when she comes home to roost.
Hoadie

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Posted By: paddyofurniture
Date Posted: July 21 2013 at 11:01pm
Maybe to England to celebrate the birth of the Royal Child.

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Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: July 22 2013 at 2:13am
Naw..Niagara Falls has that all covered. All the towers & hotels are rigged with lights.They will lite up Blue foe a boy, & Pink for a girl. The light show at the falls will reflect that as well - & I'm told the CN tower in Toronto is rigged as well.
(The Royal bundle still doesn't carry the excitement that the Lanc does!)
Hoadie

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Posted By: paddyofurniture
Date Posted: July 22 2013 at 9:18am
Here, Here!

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Posted By: A square 10
Date Posted: July 23 2013 at 12:41pm
ive less interest than some in the royals as it were , but i do appreciate the meaning to those of the empire , just not much into the star/poparatsy/glamor bit of it all - the traditions i get 


Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: June 28 2014 at 10:49pm
I am such a fortunate cuss!
TWICE this week, the Lanc did her prancing over the house.
Yesterday, I was working in the store I'm putting together, & I could "feel" the rumble, before I could actually "hear" it. Dropped me paint brush & went outside.There she was..low & beautiful.
Straight as an arrow toward Niagara Falls.
She'll be heading to Blighty soon...to join up with the world's only other flyable Lanc.(owned by the RAF).
They should be quite a sight & sound together, along with Spitfires & Hurricanes!
I wont stop worrying about her till she's back in her nest in Hamilton in September.
Hoadie

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Posted By: 25-5
Date Posted: July 10 2014 at 8:16am
I did not see this in the posts.
its a good video and there are
www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4Gh2DfPkP4

Cut and paste

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Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: October 10 2014 at 7:19pm
Well, its pretty obvious our Lancaster (VeRA) is back... I could hear it, then saw her in the distance..but later on in the afternoon, she came in low and slow right over me while I was workin on an elderly veteran's yard(She was a CWAC in the 2nd twirl at war).
Flew right over the dang house, then a push on the engine revs - bank starboard - and take a tour along the Welland Canal to Lake Erie.
For all the times I've seen & heard her..it STILL sends shivers up my spine! You just can't mistake the sound of a Merlin...or FOUR together!
Hoadie

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Posted By: White Rhino
Date Posted: October 10 2014 at 8:11pm
COOOOOOOOooooooooooolllllllllll!!!!!

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Posted By: OzzyDavid
Date Posted: October 11 2014 at 1:06am
My parents lived in Coventry during WW2. They spoke of the 1000 bomber raids passing overhead. The growl of all those engines made the ground shake. It often took 4 hours to pass...



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