Spotting scopes, worth it or not?
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Topic: Spotting scopes, worth it or not?
Posted By: Hatchetman
Subject: Spotting scopes, worth it or not?
Date Posted: September 13 2006 at 6:53pm
| Yeah are spotting scopes really worth the bother when you are truding round the bush looking for sh*t to shoot? I have pigs, goats and deer in mind as my quarry |
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Posted By: allan
Date Posted: September 13 2006 at 9:54pm
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ive never used em..the less stuff to carry the better.. in my years ive found most pigs in lignam or marshyriver banks during the day...close stuff.only my opinion. ------------- 'SAVIOUR OF OUR SKIES BOYO!' |
Posted By: Cookie Monster
Date Posted: September 13 2006 at 10:15pm
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I use spotting scope at the range to view the targets out several 100 yards to check where the point of impact is. For game I use a pair of quality binoculars. However in one of my hunting stands there is several areas where I can make a shot of several 100 yards, I do use the spotting scope then.
Cookie Monster
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Posted By: Lithgow
Date Posted: September 14 2006 at 12:17am
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On the range for target work they are great. I have never bothered in the bush tho as I think they would be more of apin to carry around than they would be worth.
If you need to carry something why not a compact set of binoculars.
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Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: September 14 2006 at 6:26am
I find scopes useless for MY applications.(Wait till your in thick brush hunting whitetails..They put a whole new meaning to the term,"fast food.") Since you NEVER get a shot @ a white tail over open ground - standing still, @ 300 yds or better - I'd leave the scope in the store Hoadie ------------- Loose wimmen tightened here |
Hatchetman wrote:Posted By: White Rhino
Date Posted: September 14 2006 at 8:45am
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Hoadie, i have a Buddy down the road from me, that has a 30.06 and he shot this deer and i mean a very pittiful basket rack 6point at about 200 yards or so... it took him 5 shots if i remember his story right to hit the deer with a scope. most people down here talk about making that long shot and killing a deer, most of there long shots are 75 to 120yards long.
and they brag on it like they did something incredible. and 90% of these persons are shooting 30.06 or .270. way to much gun for swamp deer
.30.30 would be plenty enough to hunt with, hell i shot a doe with a 9mm pistole, in the head while hunting one year. my rifle would not fire so i pulled the 9mm out and took the shot,the deer i was aiming at ran off but there was another standing behind a tree in line with me and the one that ran off and picked her head up at just the right time.
The "White Rhino" ------------- "White Rhino" "Everybody's got to believe in something. I believe I'll have another beer." --W. C. Fields |
Posted By: Dukeoflawnchair
Date Posted: September 15 2006 at 2:12am
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White Rhine! I agree with you...lotta people beef up their shots mighty far...and more often than not. But I also firmly believe that there are actually exceptionally skilled shooters out there...like a number of the older passionate shooter gents you find at the living at the range...or the guy who shoots cans off one of the fences of his farm every day.
This is my thought on Buddy down the road. Maybe you were right about that 30.06 being a little in excess. Obviously, I don't know him, what he was shooting short of it being a 30.06, or what the conditions were short of 200 yards...but maybe he was dealing with too much recoil from his arm than he could handle for a 200yard shot. They say that 20 ft lbs is the number that causes the average shooter to flinch...while a 180gr 30.06 will give a 20.3 kick (numbers courtesy of chuckhawks.com). I figure that a little flinch at 200 yards...
On a different note, I'm jealous about your ability to carry a side arm...up here, even for legitimate reasons (say bushwork...we've all heard stories about fantastic side-arm saves at the last minute from a charging anything...), we're not allowed to carry unless we're an officer. They have to be registered, unloaed and locked for all transportation, and we need permits to transport wherever and whenever we go, usually only issued for "to range, from range to home, to gunsmith, from gunsmith to home..." sorta gigs. It's also the sorta thing that politicians would take you to make an example of to show that they're hard on gun crime...even if you're peacefully and legitimately trying to do something safe and reasonable in a responsible manner.
That promise to ban sidearms...even though I don't own one personally...
------------- Defend your right to arm bears! Do you know what the chain of command is? It's a chain that I beat you with if you don't do what I say... |
Posted By: Dukeoflawnchair
Date Posted: September 15 2006 at 2:20am
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*calculation of 30.06 in an 8lb rifle. ------------- Defend your right to arm bears! Do you know what the chain of command is? It's a chain that I beat you with if you don't do what I say... |
Posted By: White Rhino
Date Posted: September 15 2006 at 8:23am
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Dukeoflawnchair, where are you living at? if you PM me your E-mail i will send you some pictures of my pistols,and some of MY ENFIELDS.
On the other note, of my friend down the road. it was a clear day, the deer was on a pipe line and i have seen him target shoot at 75yds. he hit preety well. not real well. no dime or quarter groups but good enough groups that if he knew what he was doing he wouldnt have to take so many shots. If you could meet him and listen to him talk you would under stand. I asked him one time why doesnt he put hus target out further he said that the distance i was talking about(250 around a bouts) was to far for the gun to shoot. so i got another one of his beers and just let him talk. and shoot. Oh By the way he was shooting from a rest. a hood of his truck.
 and no i dont think it was a little flinch... The "White Rhino"
------------- "White Rhino" "Everybody's got to believe in something. I believe I'll have another beer." --W. C. Fields |
Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: September 15 2006 at 10:23am
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all the more reason to turf the 30.06 cal! (Never really bin a fan of it) whacks the deer too hard.Too much power comin out the spout, makes her hard to handle.
Renee (a bud) shot a caribou couple years back - open sights, open territory.180 grn bullet - .303 enfield.One shot @ 275 - 300 yds....1 caribou-even shocked himself!(My husky appreciated it - he got a mess of the bones!) Hoadie ------------- Loose wimmen tightened here |