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Topic: 303 Pig hunt
Posted By: saffer
Subject: 303 Pig hunt
Date Posted: August 12 2011 at 4:53am
In November last year I went on a night pig hunt. Used a 303 with a 300Lumen LED flashlight mounted on the scope. Thats me in the middle. I took 3 pigs and my son took one. the others belonged to my colleagues.
 


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Posted By: eurolynn
Date Posted: August 12 2011 at 8:44pm
How do y'all in SA prepare the pork, that you now have a lot of?  Any special recipes to share?


Posted By: saffer
Date Posted: August 13 2011 at 3:49pm
I sent my pork to a butcher who handles wild game. He cold smoked the legs and hocks, but made sausage, cabernossi, Italian Salami, Kassler of rib, sosaties of the rest.
 
I normally do my own meat, but these animals were riddled with ticks and fleas, and I have a serious allergy to fleas and having already had tick bite fever, was not going to chance it again.
 
For my other venison, we do different things.
For steaks - if the meat is tough, we use mashed paw-paw and leave the steak in there for a few hours. Alternatively I have used a liquer called Amarulla Cream. Very close to Bailey's Irish cream, and I don't see why that should not work, as I believe it is the cream that does wonders to the meat.
Another friend of mine takes a pound of butter, melts it into a cast iron pot. Takes the medallions of steak, and cooks them in the butter until the show signs of going brown. Takes them out, puts to small containers (125ml) of cream in the melted butter, adds salt, lots of black pepper and fresh mushrooms. When this lot is congealing you throw the meat back in and heat, then serve.
 
Another recipe I use on roasts.  Take fresh rosemary and garlic. Depending on the size of the roast, you may very well require a lot of rosemary and garlic. Finely crush the rosemary and garlic together. When done, take course salt and spread the rosemary and garlic out over board. Rub olive oil on the roast, and roll the roast over the rosemary, garlic and salt. Cook for the weight over an open fire or if you prefer in an oven. The meat gets a crispy outside, which locks in the juices. Yummy.


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Posted By: eurolynn
Date Posted: August 13 2011 at 9:03pm
At first I was surprised to see the European style in your recipes, but I keep forgetting the heritage of some South Africans is also Western Europe.

You struck a nerve with me (a good one), but when you wrote 'Kassler' my heart skipped a beat.  I lived in Germany for 22 years and ate my body weight many times over of it.  But since my return to the US, I have been trying to find Kassler.  Apparently I can't explain it well enough, everyone thinks I am looking for the American version of Black Forest Ham(which is not even close to any German hams).  Can you help me explain what Kassler is?  I can not afford to fly back to Germany everytime I desire good meatLOL                                       

Back to the food:  The paw-paw is new to me.  I had one once, and all I remember was it reminded me of a banana and mango at the same time.  What would be a good substitiute for this particular fruit?

And lastly, aside from a long expensive plane ride, how would a foreigner get to go hunt in SA?   I'm talking of lesser game, no cats or elephants.


Posted By: saffer
Date Posted: August 14 2011 at 5:45pm
I am orginally from the UK been living here for the past 45 years hence the western european influence with local conotations.
Kassler is cured pork chops/cuts lightly smoked.


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Posted By: saffer
Date Posted: August 14 2011 at 5:58pm
Some of the details havebeen taken fom a well known orgnization.
Is is fairly easy to organise a hunt in SA.
Firstly you need an invitation from a known hunting lodge/farm.
A Plane ticket. Plenty of comfort for the lo-o-o-o-o-ng flight.
USA export pemit, and a USA import permit. Probably the same document.
A hardened flight approved case
A temporary firearm import permit SAPS520 obtainable at http://www.saps.gov.za/crime_prevention/firearms/formseng.htm" rel="nofollow - http://www.saps.gov.za/crime_prevention/firearms/formseng.htm http://www.saps.gov.za" rel="nofollow -
Complete the temporary firearm import permit application SAP520 in advance if possible and bring it with you. NB! It is important to note that the form must be completed in black ink and must remain unsigned until the document is finalized in front of the police official issuing the actual permit at the airport.

You will need


Valid passport
Return Airline ticket
Letter of Invitation from your Hunting Outfitter(s)
Completed http://www.africanskyhunting.co.za/520.pdf" rel="nofollow - SAP 520 Form (Not signed, should be signed in front of the official)
Proof of Ownership (CBP Form 4457- Certificate of Registration for personal effects take abroad)
Proof of export from country of origin(CBP Form 4457- Certificate of Registration for personal effects take abroad)
Letter of Motivation ( A letter written by yourself to motivate why you wish to import rifles)

Important information:


The following firearms and ammunition will not be allowed to enter South Africa:
Any automatic or semi-automatic firearms,
More than one firearm per caliber per person,
More than 200 rounds of ammunition per person per firearm,
Any pistol or revolver. (Unless specified for hunting)

Reasons why your application will not be approved:


If you have any of the above mentioned firearms and/or ammunition,
If any of the supporting documents as required cannot be produced,
If you are less than 21 years of age,

Your application for a temporary import permit will be refused and your firearms and ammunition will be confiscated and will only be handed back to you when you depart back to your country of residence.

Please take note that only the Central Firearm Registrar in Pretoria, South Africa can authorize special applications for the above restrictions. These applications have to be made in advance and must reach them not later than 3 (three) weeks before arrival. You will need a special motivation letter for this. Please contact the PHASA office for more info and assistance.

On arrival at O.R. Tambo International in Johannesburg:


a. Disembark from aircraft and clear passport control in whichever Terminal the flight arrives. (Generally, SAA and its co-partners at Terminal 2, and all other airlines in Terminal 1).

b. Proceed to baggage claim at the respective carousel. Pick up general baggage. Your firearms will be delivered directly to the SAPS firearms office.

c. For visitors with firearms arriving at Terminal 2:
Proceed to the SAPS Firearms Office. Look for office signage. Location of the SAPS Firearms Office – in Terminal 2- in front of the Post Office.
For visitors with firearms arriving at Terminal 1:
Proceed to the firearm office that is situated in Terminal 2 in front of the Post Office.

d. On arrival at the SAPS Firearm Office collect your issued temporary import permit at the PHASA desk or have the necessary documentation available for inspection.

e. Your firearms and ammunition will be physically inspected to ensure the serial numbers match those of the licenses and the application forms. You will then be asked to wait while your application is being processed – if you are not in the possession of an already issued temporary importation permit.

f. When your application has been processed and your permit has been issued you will have to sign for the permit. If you are connecting to other flights, please make sure that you allow ample time for this process (at least 3 hours).

REMEMBER THE ISSUING OF THE TEMPORARY IMPORT PERMITS AT THE PORT OF ENTRY IS FREE OF CHARGE. DO NOT TIP OR PAY ANY SAPS OFFICER FOR THIS SERVICE. YOU SHOULD KEEP THE PERMIT WITH YOU AT ALL TIMES WHILE IN SOUTH AFRICA. AND WHEN THE FIRE ARMS ARE IN YOUR POSSESSION.



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Posted By: Dux-R-Us
Date Posted: August 17 2011 at 9:49am
nice bag of pigs.  nice head shots too. 
 
so is RSA having a feral hog problem like the southern US?
 
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Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: August 17 2011 at 10:11am
We tried the rosemary & garlic/salt on a steak the other night, SAFFER. Excellent we'd do that again in a heartbeat, thanks.Beer


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Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)


Posted By: saffer
Date Posted: August 17 2011 at 6:32pm
Feral pigs have become a big problem. Wehave two strains. The dometic pig that has become wild. They tend to be found on the west coast in the sand flats, and a bastard pig that is a mix between russian wild boar and domestic pig.
The later getting up to 240Kg plus, spend more time in the more mountainous areas.
A conservation expert spoke to us recently, and said the pigs of +/- 70-80 in a sounder, can clear 10 hectares of vineyard in one night.
Our hunting association is getting involved to assist in reducing the numbers. A bit of free night hunting. On this one farm were we hunted those pigs, they have taken out about 200 pigs so far.
I shot two sows with a litter of ten piglets each, so in a year, the problem is back again.
Apparently OZ has a bigger problem with their razorbacks.


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Posted By: White Rhino
Date Posted: August 17 2011 at 11:30pm
I used to hunt with one of the Docs at the clinic My with works at ...The lease He hunted had a rule ...10 pigs per member a day ...1 for your guest a day ....
Seems to me if I had a lease that had pig problems I would tell every hunter involved to bring your buddies and let them take as many pigs as possible that they want ....but only one deer a season ...
that would help thin them out ....


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Posted By: 303Guy
Date Posted: August 23 2012 at 5:23pm
Is the Russian wild boar different from the European wild boar?  We have Captain Cookers which are what we call Razor Backs over here in NZ which are European wild bore introduced by Captain Cook.  We also have plain 'ol domestic feral pigs.  The Captain Cookers have interbred with domestic ferals  to varying degrees.  I've seen a sounder of feral pig which looked just like farm pigs.  Not the pink fat ones, just the multi coloured and patterned ones.

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Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: August 23 2012 at 10:03pm
"the pigs of +/- 70-80 in a sounder"
Just a quick thought here.
I'm sure the term "sounder" being used is not the American usage of the term.
 
In many parts of the U.S. "sounder" is a derogatary term used by bad hunters who shoot at a noise without identifying, or even seeing the source of the sound.
 
"Whaddya git"?
"Nuttin! I shot at a sounder, but it got away before I could see it"!
 
I'm sure that's not the way the term is intended here.


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Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)


Posted By: White Rhino
Date Posted: August 23 2012 at 10:44pm
Shamu , I never heard the Term "Sounder" used in either way down here !!!
As for the Hunter who will shoot at the brush moving or a sound in the brush ..Well if We didnt beat the he!! out of him , he surely would not come back hunting with us ...and that was when we were Kids of about around 13 or so !!!

As for the Feral Pigs here , I have taken a spotted one once ..it was white with Black and Brown spots !!  the only one I seen in Hope dale !! the rest were black !


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"Everybody's got to believe in something. I believe I'll have another beer." --W. C. Fields


Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: August 24 2012 at 1:16am
I first heard the term in upstate (Southern Tier) of NY state. At first I thought I'd misunderstood the concept but apparently not. Shooting at unidentified sounds is openly discussed in some areas, those are the areas I won't go out in.

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Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)


Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: August 24 2012 at 1:31am
"Is the Russian wild boar different from the European wild boar?"
There are literally dozens of spiecies of wild boar, & thery can cross breed with domestic pigs for hybrids, some reaching huge proportions.
More info here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wild_boar" rel="nofollow - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wild_boar
 
Just to confuse the issue domesticated pigs will revert in appearance to the pre-domesticated form in just a few years  making it hard to distinguish if that huge "Wild Boar" is a wild boar, a hybrid from interbreeding, or a domestic hog gone feral & regressed. Giants are being found as well & its not really known if they are caused by interbreeding between domestic hogs fed suppliments & steroids interacting with wild strains or what.
 
In some states, like Arkansas, the problem has gotten so out of hand that its all year open season with no bag limit just to try to get the feral hog invasion back under control. Every year when we go there in the Ozarks (about a 1/4 million acre national forest with very few inhabitants) the first thing we hear from the rangers is usually;
"If you see a friggin pig just kill the damn thing!"


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Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)


Posted By: White Rhino
Date Posted: August 24 2012 at 2:34am
Seems to be the thing all over the place ...Im Lucky as for now ..No pigs on my property ...but just about 15 to 20 min. drive from here I have heard they have a problem ...
We did have a neighbor up the road a couple of years ago bring some ferrals in to try and get them started here ....They got out his pen he had and have not been seen since ...Evil Smile  Gotta love the people around here !!!!!  some dont want their Deer hunting destroyed ......  The guy that brought them in is the kind that will use bottles , Hooks and string to get wood Ducks !!!  the kinda of guy you find hurt in the woods and leave him there !!!!  He is very unsporting and will usually have 3 to 4 deer in the freezer on the first week end of hunting season !!!!
I have been in the mix talking to one of the sheriffs deputies when this guy came up bragging what he had already bagged !!  the Deputy said "well You got them Friday night didnt You !!!" Your an outlaw !!  You have not ever shot a legal deer in your life !! If you had to hunt legal you would starve !!!


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"White Rhino"

"Everybody's got to believe in something. I believe I'll have another beer." --W. C. Fields


Posted By: sayak
Date Posted: August 24 2012 at 2:40am
Wish we had pigs in Alaska. That pig carnage in your photo is sweet! 

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Posted By: 303Guy
Date Posted: August 24 2012 at 6:03am
A sounder is a flock of pigs.  The idea of firing at a sound is so foreign to me that the idea of anyone doing it and worse, actually admitting to doing it is, well, foreign!

We have someone here who fired at a patch of deer hair that he was certain was a deer.  Yesterday he got sentenced to nine months prison for man slaughter.  Apparently he was head of the Deer Stalkers Association.  And the patch of deer hair he saw?  It was actually a Hi Viz hood, or so I'm told.  Facts still to be confirmed.


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Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: August 24 2012 at 7:15am
I guessed it was something like that. Here in the US it's called a herd of pigs.

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Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)


Posted By: Cookie Monster
Date Posted: August 24 2012 at 9:00am
The local farmers encourage the removal of the wild pigs in our area


Posted By: Lithgow
Date Posted: August 24 2012 at 10:47am
In Australia its a mob of pigs.


Posted By: Tony
Date Posted: August 25 2012 at 2:08am
Over here it's called Parliament!  Evil Smile

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Posted By: sayak
Date Posted: August 25 2012 at 3:00am
Ha ha! Over here they might be called "Occupy".

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Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: August 25 2012 at 5:30am
He said "pigs" not "swines"Clown

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Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)


Posted By: 303Guy
Date Posted: August 25 2012 at 7:00pm
Everything is a called a mob here in NZ, mob of goats, pigs, turkeys, you name it.

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Posted By: A square 10
Date Posted: August 28 2012 at 10:21am
dont care what anyone says , looks like fun to me ,


Posted By: Smokey
Date Posted: September 01 2012 at 5:26am
Up where I am, the climate is too cold for domestic pigs gone feral, but Russian wild boar are gradually spreading south from Vermont. Some have already turned up in Massachusetts.


Posted By: Rob
Date Posted: September 08 2012 at 12:33am
i dont think that the climate is as tough on the pigs as we all thought,some farmers thought that. and we have lots of them around here.and our temp ranges from +40 to -40 not always that extream but we get very cold and very warm and I see them in winter on or by the highway from Blainlake to Battleford every once in a while.and down around lost mountain lake I hear they are a problem.

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Posted By: 303Guy
Date Posted: September 10 2012 at 2:46pm
Pigs are tough critters and seem to be marvellous survivors.  There's an antelope that should be introduced into all parts of the world (maybe not snow conditions but one never knows).  It's the African Duiker - they do well anywhere and are good eating.

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Posted By: A square 10
Date Posted: September 11 2012 at 1:19am
i am particularly fond of pork , and im hungry right now ........think ill go to lunch :>}


Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: September 11 2012 at 2:21am
Mmmmm, pork!
 
 
 
 


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Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)


Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: September 11 2012 at 2:21am
I know, that wasn't nice was it?

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Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)


Posted By: A square 10
Date Posted: September 13 2012 at 12:28am
no it wasnt - now my mouth is watering , guess ill go to lunch early


Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: September 13 2012 at 12:57am
Sorry, I just could not resist the temptation.

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Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)



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