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Topic: BSA No4 Sporting rifle PICS ADDED
Posted By: flanker
Subject: BSA No4 Sporting rifle PICS ADDED
Date Posted: April 14 2012 at 2:50am
I'm in the process of acquiring a BSA No4-based stalking rifle. This was manufactured as a stalking rifle by BSA. The woodwork is entirely civilian but I'd say that action was military surplus as it has a small WD arrow on it.
I can't seem to find much information about these or any pictures. Does any one know the history or have any good pics. My rifle is in good condition but I'm not quite sure what it is.....

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Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: April 14 2012 at 7:25am
I'm not seeing pictures????

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Posted By: flanker
Date Posted: April 14 2012 at 4:44pm
Sorry, I haven't got any pictures yet. It's still in the gun shop while I wait for the variation to my Firearm Certificate that will enable me to bring it home. I'll post when I do.
I just wondered if any one else had a BSA No4 sporting rifle or knew details of production of these.


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Posted By: Jc5
Date Posted: May 02 2012 at 1:23am
Check out this thread: 

http://forums.gunboards.com/showthread.php?23226-Rifle-used-by-Val-Kilmer-in-Ghost-and-the-Darkness

When you get the rifle, please post some pictures and send me a private message for my illustrated Lee-Speed survey. Data on your rifle will be a big help to my project. 

I can probably help you determine when it was manufactured.


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Posted By: flanker
Date Posted: May 02 2012 at 2:48am
Thanks very much, I will. I'm just waiting for a variation on my certificate. I had to find land with permission to stalk red deer so that I could have expanding ammo. That's now done and I hope to get the rifle home soon.

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Posted By: flanker
Date Posted: May 05 2012 at 12:06am
Originally posted by Jc5 Jc5 wrote:

Check out this thread: 

http://forums.gunboards.com/showthread.php?23226-Rifle-used-by-Val-Kilmer-in-Ghost-and-the-Darkness

When you get the rifle, please post some pictures and send me a private message for my illustrated Lee-Speed survey. Data on your rifle will be a big help to my project. 

I can probably help you determine when it was manufactured.


Here are a couple of pics. The rifle has some BSA markings, it is a commercialy produced stalking rifle based on a NO.4 action. At this point I'm not sure if BSA produced the original No.4 or the subsequent stalking rifle. It has the numbers: 54 RYL5230 inscribed on one side of the receiver. It is supplied with a 5-round mag as well as the standard 10-round one. There is a faint WD arrow inscribed on the barrel too, but I think that is because many surplus barrels and actions were used commercially after the war.




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Posted By: flanker
Date Posted: May 05 2012 at 12:49am
I have found this picture of a Parker Hale Supreme which looks very similar.




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Posted By: ArcherSix
Date Posted: May 06 2012 at 5:55am
Interesting, how is the rear scope base attached?


Posted By: flanker
Date Posted: May 06 2012 at 6:30am
It seems to have a short rail at the back and a block at the front. This seems also the case on the PH Supreme which I've added a picture of. This confirms my idea that my rifle is a Parker Hale and not a BSA as listed in the shop.

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Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: May 06 2012 at 8:37am
Is this in .308 or .303? That looks like a .308 magazine!
It seems to be based on a #4 Mk2 action, look at the rear of the stock forend, right in front of the receiver ring, that looks like a cross bolt, not the reinforce of a #4 Mk1. If it is that should be a really accurate rifle.


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Posted By: flanker
Date Posted: May 06 2012 at 5:39pm
It's 303. Both the rifles shown above are 303 and have the same feature. I don't know what that feature is though. It seems to feature on most of the P-H No4 based sporters that I can find on the web though.




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Posted By: Canuck
Date Posted: May 14 2012 at 1:05pm
Here is one of my rifles, looks pretty much identical...it has PH then a sideways PH ahead of the first PH stamped at the top of the receiver ring where the bolt feeds into. It has a PH front sight mount and rear sight mounts are both PH pieces. The rifle itself is a 1945 Longbranch #4/Mk1*. It has an excellent 5 groove barrel and was parkerized some decades ago. It has serial number 84L, the bolt matches the receiver but the 10-round magazine has no number at all.It says it is a F(FTR) 50, then a stamping of 52 of a different font on the butt socket on the left side near the bottom then below that ENGLAND. There is no Parker Hale stamping on the barrel that I can see or anywhere else other than the sights and the rings and the other area I mentioned.The re-inforcing screw just ahead of the butt socket looks to be made of brass. This rifle is a sharp shooter and has taken countless game.Pics.


Posted By: flanker
Date Posted: May 15 2012 at 5:45am
Thanks very much, I agree, that looks like the same conversion job as mine. mine was sold by the gunshop as a BSA, but you confirm my idea that it's a Parker Hale conversion of an No4 rifle made by BSA.

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Posted By: Canuck
Date Posted: May 15 2012 at 6:49am
Do you have a 5-groove barrel? This rifle is a brutal hunting machine. It has taken bear, moose and elk using 180 grain Core-lokt ammo. I replaced the extractor spring and extractor,and safety and firing pin springs just as precautionary moves to ensure troulbe-free action. The entire gun was disassembled, cleaned thoroughly and re-lubed. It still has the dual stage trigger mech which I like and has a crisp release. The scope is a Tasco of unknown vintage 4x32 power that holds zero. The fellow who owned it before me bought it new, a friend of my uncles' and he told me when I bought it from him that he hadn't shot more than 100 rounds through it since new, and had sat in his gun cabinet for over 20 years because he couldn't hunt anymore. He did maintain it though and the barrel is just pristine with deep rifling and no flaws at all. My pictures show it to be lacquered but it is not, that is camera flash and a nice double-boiled linseed oiled hand-rubbed wood set. There isn't a mark anywhere on the wood. This rifle comes with me on any hunt, doesn't always get used for game but is a great back-up rifle to my .270 while deer hunting. The action is smooth as silk, most of my hunting buddies are in awe with the smooth action of this and any Enfield, and when they look at the 1945 date they just jaw-drop.


Posted By: flanker
Date Posted: May 16 2012 at 3:16am
It's been suggested that this rifle has a 308 magazine by a couple of people and I have to admit that I can see what they mean. I haven't got the gun home yet so I can't check right now. I'm intrigued though - does this mean I have a mis-identified 308 on my hands? I wouldn't mind that in some ways- I'd have a better choice of ammunition. On the other hand I have acquired quite a lot of 303 reloading kit and brass too - so that would be irritating. I've always wanted a 303.

If it is a 303, will the 308 mag cause me a problem?

I know where I can get a No4 303 mag quite easily.

There is also a 5-round  magazine withe rifle, I'm wondering if this is the original and the 10-round, "308" mag has been added later.


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Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: May 16 2012 at 3:54am
I don't think you will lose either way in reality. When it arrives check for stamps on the barrel indicating chambering.

If you have a .308 magazine you can just swap it for a .303 one easily, but if you have a .308 chamber & .308 bore then you have a sweet .308. You can find magazines for $25~$40 US easily & you could probably sell a .308 Enfield magazine for that.

If all else fails have a smith check the chambering or try loading a dummy round & see what fits.

Canuck's magazine looks like a .303 with the sharper base angle, but who knows maybe someone modded a 10 or 12 round Ishapore 7.62 mag to take 5, 6, or 7  rounds of .303?? It's an Enfield, never say "never"Shocked


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Posted By: Longshaor
Date Posted: May 16 2012 at 4:10am

Since you said the barrel is marked with a broad arrow, here's an easy way to check if it's .308 or not.  Military .308 barrels (both the hammer-forged ones and the latter lathed ones) are marked "CR1470" on the knox form.

Hope that helps.


Posted By: flanker
Date Posted: June 01 2012 at 3:18am
The rifle is in fact a 303, it has a 303 5-round magazine and cycles 303 ammunition. The "spare" 10 round magazine is for 7.62. The rifle came from the estate of a chap who had pa$ed away. I think the people who cleared out his gun cabinet got some of the kit mixed up. I'm relieved since I bought a whole pile of 303 cases, heads and dies. Big smile
 


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Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: June 01 2012 at 3:38am
I'm not sure on the legalities of this in the UK, but here in the US you could probably just swap out the 10-round .308 for a 10-round .303 (addding a few dollars to make up the difference in value as the .308 mags are rarer, here at least, than the .308 ones.)
I don't know the law on magazines in the UK now though.


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Posted By: flanker
Date Posted: June 01 2012 at 3:09pm
I think I can buy the 303 mag quite easily here.Not sure what the rules are about sending the 308 mag to the US though.

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Posted By: Tony
Date Posted: June 01 2012 at 3:39pm
There should be no problem sending a magazine to the USA parcel post as it's not cla$sed as an offensive weapon. 303 magazines are easily obtained in the UK but shop around, some of the gun dealers prices are a joke!

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Posted By: Moondog55
Date Posted: June 02 2012 at 4:36pm
Definitely ( well just because it looks like mine) an L4 magazine. 


Posted By: Moondog55
Date Posted: June 02 2012 at 4:38pm
how much for the L4 magazine??
last one I purchased through Enfield and it cost me 5poundsUK plus postage


Posted By: flanker
Date Posted: June 02 2012 at 5:54pm
Thanks mate, but I've agreed to sell it to Longshaor - I'm hoping to get about fifty quid off him but don't tell anyone Wink LOL
Seriously though, I've been looking around the web and can't find one for sale - anyone know what's a fair price?


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Posted By: flanker
Date Posted: August 10 2012 at 11:38pm
Finally got the rifle out on the range today.

The groups weren't too good 4-6 inches at 100m. This was using South African Mk7 ball from 1961. I noticed eventually that the scope mounts had some significant movement and stopping that seems to improve things but it came loose again. It's a rubber armoured chinese scope - trade name Leapers - I think that will need replaced. The trigger feels clunky and will need smoothing somehow I think. The scope mount is by Parker Hale and is fixed to what I believe are the mountings for the original rear sight. It seems to be a P-H BA21.

The rifle has the receiver markings:
No4 Mk1/2 (F) FTR
/ 54 BY15270 ( this number appears elsewhere and so I assume it is the serial number)

The 10 round magazine is indeed a 7.62 and has the markings: CR1256 1965 on the follower and CR 141A  and 65 on the case. The flush fitting 303 mag is fine but I noticed a few misfeeds which seemed to be caused by rounds coming off the follower at a steep angle and missing the chamber.

Fired about 40 rounds, my shoulder knows it's been to the range I can tell you!
It was nice to a have a pop with my Ruger 223 as well, the accuracy of the Ruger re-assured me that I was still shooting straight




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Posted By: A square 10
Date Posted: August 14 2012 at 1:21am
i must say , much as i prefer them in original military nick , they do make a handsome sporting rifle when done competently


Posted By: flanker
Date Posted: August 14 2012 at 2:21am
I think I will eventually get a nice No 4 in the original state, they are an iconic rifle. This one was converted at a time when the originals were ten a penny. At least its a classic British conversion and not a nasty bubba-job Smile

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Posted By: A square 10
Date Posted: August 14 2012 at 2:39am
true that     :>}


Posted By: 303Guy
Date Posted: August 18 2012 at 11:44am
An Ishapore 7.62 magazine wouldn't fit a No4 even in 7.62, surely.

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Posted By: flanker
Date Posted: August 18 2012 at 10:49pm
I don't know, probably not, the 7.62 magazine has now gone to a new home with Longshaor. Mind you, I wouldn't mind getting hold of a spare 5-round No 4 303 magazine in case I lose the one I've got Shocked

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Posted By: flanker
Date Posted: September 02 2012 at 5:46am
This 5-round magazine has issues. The 5th round exits the magazine at a very steep angle. Instead of entering the chamber, the point of the round lodges in the upper, front corner of the breech. Very irritating - any thoughts?

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Posted By: llaszloboehm
Date Posted: January 01 2013 at 4:57am
Dear Gentlemen,
I´m new to this forum, and I have to say that it makes me happy to have Enfield loving comrades all over the world. I own two of these great rifles and use them for hunting in Germany and eastern Europe.
Both are ...ehm...hunterized. I try to add pics.  One is a Parker Hale conversion 1944 Mk4 No 1, five groove barrel, purchased in mint condition in Germany, equipped with a  CanWest trigger system, adjusted with 1 Kg =2 pounds trigger weight and custom made Weaver bases and a Pentax Gameseeker 3-15x50 scope. The second one is a 1943 Long Branch Mk4 No 1*, two grove barrel. This one is very special, but never found aut how it came to existece. Probably a gunsmith exam work, and was never shot before I purchsed it. The rear sight and bridge is cut off completely, so it bears a 3 point custom Weaver rail with a Weaver Grand Slam 3-9x40 scope. The original trigger was modified to single-pull at 2 kg= 4 pounds. I`m looking forward to your opinions and questions, if any!
 
 


Posted By: 303Guy
Date Posted: January 01 2013 at 5:37pm
Beautiful rifle.

It's strange that someone would cut off the charger bridge.  The best scope mounting point out there and they cut it off!  Oh well.

I do like the rear scope base fitting on the one in your pic.  I have a different use for the original rear sight mount.


It clips onto a ring on my back pack strap.  Real cool for walking about and the rifle can be shouldered without unclipping it but unclipping it is quick and easy enough.  ( have a bad elbow and can't carry a rifle for too long).

Oh, that fat thing on the butt is for digging into the ground on steep and slippery slopes in the bush.  It's cross grain bit of wood.  It works - even with the carry cord clipped on.  It's shock cord so stretches.

Anyway, it would be great to see photo's of your other rifle too. 


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Posted By: flanker
Date Posted: January 01 2013 at 9:31pm
Originally posted by llaszloboehm llaszloboehm wrote:

Dear Gentlemen,
I´m new to this forum, and I have to say that it makes me happy to have Enfield loving comrades all over the world. I own two of these great rifles and use them for hunting in Germany and eastern Europe.
Both are ...ehm...hunterized. I try to add pics.  One is a Parker Hale conversion 1944 Mk4 No 1, five groove barrel, purchased in mint condition in Germany, equipped with a  CanWest trigger system, adjusted with 1 Kg =2 pounds trigger weight and custom made Weaver bases and a Pentax Gameseeker 3-15x50 scope. The second one is a 1943 Long Branch Mk4 No 1*, two grove barrel. This one is very special, but never found aut how it came to existece. Probably a gunsmith exam work, and was never shot before I purchsed it. The rear sight and bridge is cut off completely, so it bears a 3 point custom Weaver rail with a Weaver Grand Slam 3-9x40 scope. The original trigger was modified to single-pull at 2 kg= 4 pounds. I`m looking forward to your opinions and questions, if any!
 
 
Hi Llazlo,
My rifle is like yours. a Parker Hale conversion. It was sold as a BSA, but that was not correct.
What sort of ound did you you use to shoot the roe deer? I'm very interested in that idea and have started loading with Sierra 125 and 150gr soft point Spitzers which seem accurate. None of these have been use on a live target yet. I have a 6x42 S+B Hungartian scope on mine with a S+K one piece mount. I'll add pictures.


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Posted By: llaszloboehm
Date Posted: January 03 2013 at 3:59am
Good evening Gentlemen,
 
I´m glad to be wellcomed this heartedly in this forum. I´m a hunter since 2009 and my major game is roe deer, due to environmental opportunities. Let me tell about the cartridges, which I use:
150 grain Soft Point Spitzer with Vo =810 m/s from the czech ammo maker Sellier&Bellot  
180 grain SP Pro Hunter Sierra with Vo=710 m/s hand loaded
Both types out of the Long Branch. Precision between 1 to 1,5 Inches. The shooting distaces were between 50 up to 120 meters. They work very well, with minimal damage to meat, when with good impact point (rib cage)  the game dropped immediately or ran less then 50 meters.
With the Parker Hale Conversion I´use factory 180 grain SPRN High Speed Core Lockt made by Remington. Its accurate like the other one. The round works superb on roe deer, fox , the shown piglet and 4 weeks ago female red deer . I have also 150 grain Speer PSP wih Vo=750 m/s and 180 grain Sierra Pro Hunter with Vo=750 m/s in my locker, Powder is Vhitavuori N140, but did not tryed them, because the range would open at 9 January. I´m going to take a few detail pics to discuss about and I´ll take photos of shooting results with the ammo I operate.
 
I wish You all, a good day


Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: January 03 2013 at 8:34am
Welcome-welcome-welcome. Nice shootin irons.
But I gotta tell ya, I got a chuckle out of the "deer" you bagged. I thot it was a rabbit at first! Guess I'm blessed, living over here where the deer tend to be much bigger!
Not trying to be sarcastic..but are you able to glean much meat from a deer like that? I'm asking cuz I don't know.
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Posted By: llaszloboehm
Date Posted: January 04 2013 at 3:15am
Good morning Gentlemen, dear Hoadie,
 
for those among us, who are not educated properly in zoological issues, the animal you see is probably a hungarian roe rabbit (that hunt happened really in Hungary)......You are ideed blessed with game in Canada. We over here are limited to roe deer, red deer, dam deer, sika deer, wild sheep, black alpine goats, wild pigs, moose in scandinavia, lynx, wolfes and bears in eastern Europe plus birds and few predators. Bur generally the size of game is lower than in Northern America. That roe deer has a live weight between 12-20 Kg, with guts out and skinned 8-14 Kg, pure meat 6-12 kg.
My first red deer in November last year had 50 kg with guts out. I took it at approx 100-120 meters with factory Remington Core Lockt 180 grain SPRN bullet, top lung shot, straigt penetration, approx 2 inches exit hole. I`ll try a pic in a second message, otherwise, it will probably mess up with my picture manager.


Posted By: llaszloboehm
Date Posted: January 04 2013 at 3:18am


Posted By: flanker
Date Posted: January 06 2013 at 5:31am
Here are a few pics of my Parker Hale No 4. It now has a Schmidt and Bender 6x42 scope with S+K Mount. These are some of my Sierra Spitzer 125 gr soft points, I'm thinking of adding the original military sling.

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Posted By: flanker
Date Posted: January 06 2013 at 5:39am
Not sure what's happened Ouch  - I uploaded 4 pictures and only one is showing - I've tried uploading again and get a message telling me these are already uploaded.

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Posted By: flanker
Date Posted: January 07 2013 at 3:11am
OK, try this: Here are a few pics of my Parker Hale No 4. It now has a Schmidt and Bender 6x42 scope with S+K Mount. These are some of my Sierra Spitzer 125 gr soft points, I'm thinking of adding the original military sling.


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Posted By: muffett.2008
Date Posted: January 07 2013 at 3:35am
Much better, nice setup.


Posted By: llaszloboehm
Date Posted: January 07 2013 at 3:56am
Hi!
 
have You tried those 123 gn bullets? I use Sierra Game King Spitzer 120 gn at 850 m/s in my Swedish Mauser on roe deer, and the effect is more than satisfying. I suppose, that out of an Enfield the same effect happens, when the same bullet type is eployed (regardless of caliber). Accuracy remains the final question, because the Enfields were made for 174 gn bullets at a velocity not higher than 800 m/s
Now the mount: is that made of steel or aluminium alloy? Do the rings belong to the rail?
Next: the magazine. I´have serious feeding problems, when using the 180 gn Round Nose Remington ammo. These difficulties do not occure with spitzer ammo. Unfortunately the same problem is present
in my other Long Branch made Enfield, though the conversion ist different and the magazines are not interchangeble. Did You try RN bullets allready?
 
I wish a good day!


Posted By: llaszloboehm
Date Posted: January 07 2013 at 4:02am


Posted By: flanker
Date Posted: January 07 2013 at 4:04am
Originally posted by muffett.2008 muffett.2008 wrote:

Much better, nice setup.


It seems to hold zero pretty well but I think I need to shim the front mount somehow, I can zero  lower than 200m at the moment.
Funny thing, the originals pictures look fine in Firefox but not in Explorer.


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Posted By: llaszloboehm
Date Posted: January 07 2013 at 4:07am
Hi! this is for 303Guy,
 
as You can see, there is no way to carry my rifle with a rubberflex-cord....by the way, Your method is a
creative one. They`ve cut of the complete rear bridge, so I was forced to pay a fortune to the gunsmith for this half side mount. But it works perfectly. I´ll post a pic with the other side


Posted By: llaszloboehm
Date Posted: January 07 2013 at 4:09am


Posted By: flanker
Date Posted: January 07 2013 at 6:01am
Cool looking rifle, that's an interesting scope rail solution!

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Posted By: flanker
Date Posted: January 11 2013 at 3:04am

It's really great that we've worked that out.....Confused

.....now....
 
Do you think I should put the web sling on my rifle... and does anyone know how to shim the front mount on an S+K scope? LOL


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Posted By: llaszloboehm
Date Posted: January 11 2013 at 4:52pm
Hi Flanker!
web sling on a hunting rifle? That is maybe not stylish enough and shows the  army provenience. save the web sling for an authentic LE and use a leather sling on the conversion. Not that the function is altered, but hunting is a lot about style...!
 
Have a good day
 
Laszlo


Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: January 12 2013 at 12:22am
Web sling on a sporter? Why not. As long as you don't mind using a hasty sling, or just use it as a carry  strap it should work just fine.

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Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: January 12 2013 at 3:04am
OK I thought that the topic of image distortion & upload sizing was relevant (& big) enough to rate its own thread. So I split this thread into 2 parts, leaving the original "Gee, look at my nice sporting rifle" stuff here & relocating the image & upload related stuff to its own thread located in the Info for new Enfield owners sub forum at the link below.
Sorry if it looks a bit choppy in here because every post about resizing or uploadi g was reloacetd so ther emight be a reference to something posted earlier & now relocated. I think overall this is a better way to discuss both topics as its stickied in the new guy info section where (hopefully) new guys will go & read before posting here.
http://enfield-rifles.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=5660" rel="nofollow - http://enfield-rifles.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=5660


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Posted By: sayak
Date Posted: January 12 2013 at 8:43am
llaszloboehm, what kind of texturing or checkering do you have on the wrist and forearm?

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Posted By: llaszloboehm
Date Posted: January 12 2013 at 5:54pm
Ha Sayak!
the checkering is a kind of hammered checkerin. I´ll post a few pics in a separate post


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Date Posted: January 12 2013 at 6:03pm


Posted By: llaszloboehm
Date Posted: January 12 2013 at 6:04pm


Posted By: flanker
Date Posted: January 12 2013 at 6:41pm
I've seen that before on a Russian shotgun. It's not common in the UK.

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Posted By: muffett.2008
Date Posted: January 12 2013 at 6:48pm
I ain't saying nuthin.


Posted By: llaszloboehm
Date Posted: January 13 2013 at 2:33am
Hi!
 
its german made, no idea why or by whom. In this country Enfields are not common, exept with Service Gun Shoting Federation. For those who understand a bit german language, I recomend http://www.egun.de" rel="nofollow - www.egun.de
Thats a kind of ebay for sporting goods, fishing , hunting, reloading, stuff like this
I´ve auctionated the rifle there for 90 Euros in new, unshot, mint condition.


Posted By: flanker
Date Posted: January 13 2013 at 4:39am
Originally posted by llaszloboehm llaszloboehm wrote:

Hi!
 
its german made, no idea why or by whom. In this country Enfields are not common, exept with Service Gun Shoting Federation. For those who understand a bit german language, I recomend http://www.egun.de" rel="nofollow - www.egun.de
Thats a kind of ebay for sporting goods, fishing , hunting, reloading, stuff like this
I´ve auctionated the rifle there for 90 Euros in new, unshot, mint condition.
 
Very neat 1954 Fazakerly No 4 on there I see!


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Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: January 13 2013 at 7:21am
There is a similar punched form in the U.S, but its not common. IIRC Brownells sells a "Stippling Punch" to create a similar effect.
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Posted By: flanker
Date Posted: August 16 2013 at 7:33am
Originally posted by flanker flanker wrote:

How difficult would it be to make this into a No 5 lookalike? Not saying I will, just wondering.....




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Posted By: daneko
Date Posted: August 16 2013 at 10:58am
is that a custom, or a santa fe model?[don't chop it up, send it to me]     I have a soft spot for well done sporters..dane......


Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: August 16 2013 at 10:50pm
The hardest part would be the muzzzle end of the barrel, you'd have to remove the front sight & ramp & then fit a #5 flash hider/bayonet lug.
It looks like everything else is swapping wood & getting a 10-round mag.

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Posted By: ikesdad
Date Posted: August 17 2013 at 5:30am
And the wood is not so easily found. It does appear to be a mk2 so a military forearm would need to be located and cut to #5 contour.
I agree, that is a very nice sporter. Nothing wrong with a cut Enfield when done up as nicely as that.

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