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Topic: How to resize & upload pictures
Posted By: muffett.2008
Subject: How to resize & upload pictures
Date Posted: January 06 2013 at 4:38pm
Your problem is like so many others that try to post pic's on this forum.
 Your pics are too large, you need to resize small.
 The photo uploader can only handle a max of 500 megapixels, thats under a 1000 square picture.
 The system compensates by compressing the pic in the frame, making it a horrible distorted mess to anyone with a small screen, and the upload time is like forever.
 I usually just click on to the next thread and ignore these.



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Posted By: muffett.2008
Date Posted: January 07 2013 at 5:07pm
llazl, that's got to be the stubbiest rifle I have ever seen, are you shore it's not a kids toy.............
   woops, my mistake, it's just the distorted image from your oversized pic's.


Posted By: flanker
Date Posted: January 08 2013 at 5:01am
Originally posted by muffett.2008 muffett.2008 wrote:

llazl, that's got to be the stubbiest rifle I have ever seen, are you shore it's not a kids toy.............
   woops, my mistake, it's just the distorted image from your oversized pic's.

Have you tried a different browser. I can see Llazslos' rifle perfectly well using Opera and Firefox. Explorer gives me a lot of problems with this site though.



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Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: January 08 2013 at 6:08am
The pics look fine to me too & I'm using either AOL's browser or IE dpending on what else I'm dong.

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Posted By: muffett.2008
Date Posted: January 08 2013 at 8:20pm
We have had this argument before Shamu.
 The distortion has diddleysquat to do with my computer or the operating systems.
It's all about the failure to ensure you remain within the system uploader that is used on this forum.
 I post on 6 different forums, this is the only one I need to keep advising members to resize their pic's.
 This is the last poster pic as it appears on my screen, along with the size of the pic he posted.




 Here is the OP's pic with size......





.......and after I commented.



 The uploader has only a limited capacity, if the pic is to large it will try to squeeze it into the available frame, this will take for ages and should be an instant clue that something is amiss.
 It also means the viewers will have a longer download time, bloody frustrating if you cop it.

   This is the bit you are all ignoring..........
 I hope this goes some way to clarifying the problem, it's not hard to resize your pic's, just right click on your photo, scroll to resize and click, the programe will give you options, but will have selected the best/smallest, click on accept or change to prefered size and away you go, your original will still be there, you will just have another pic that says copy of..



Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: January 08 2013 at 11:55pm
Please understand. I'm not trying to argue with you, but help if I can.
I don't any issues with posters resizing as it would definitely speed up load times either.
However ther eis the interesting phenomenon of some users getting distortion & some not. Thats why I was suggesting there might be something to do that would let you at least see undistorted images.
I know it wouldn't do anything for your load times though.


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Posted By: flanker
Date Posted: January 09 2013 at 12:28am
I'm with Shamu on this, the phemomenon isn't simply a function of picture size.
It also varies with the browser used. I find it doesn't happen unless I'm using Explorer.
Muffet may be right of course, smaller pictures may prevent it.
Happy New year anyway... LOLLOL


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Posted By: A square 10
Date Posted: January 09 2013 at 3:09am
i have not had issues with the photos i have posted that im aware of , but lately there are numerous threads with photos so distorted that i cannot view them with any clarity or understanding


Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: January 09 2013 at 3:41am
Here's what I see with the same pics, both resized & not resized.
Original size screenshot:
 
The post with the same images resized. Positioning is different, but that may just be a function of where the link was stuck.
 
I'm not saying anything is broken & I agree that resizing would improve some aspects of the picture, such as loading speed. It might simply be some compatibility issue where no one item is causing the reshaping, a question of item (a) not working well with item (b) rather than either (a) or (b) being "wrong" or "broken".
 
How do those 2 screenshots look to you? the image is 730/647k with a 1280X1024 pixel size at 96DPI.
 
What has me confused is why some of us see it fine & others see the same webpage distorted?


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Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)


Posted By: muffett.2008
Date Posted: January 09 2013 at 4:06am
You answered this question before, you worked out that it was the uploader automatically resizing every pic to fit it's screen, even if it had to squeeze it in to do so.

  The answer to your immediate post is in the size 730/647, well under 1000.
 Heres the trick, click here...


.....and pick one of these........


  ......if you look you will see that the image is resized to fit a certain size screen, not all of us use wide screen TV's for viewing, just remember, some of the viewers are using laptops or tablets.


Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: January 09 2013 at 4:14am
Question for you. When you say:
"it's not hard to resize your pic's, just right click on your photo, scroll to resize and click"
 
Where exactly are you right clicking & resizing?
I never ever get to see that dialog boxConfused
 
I tried this in the forums file manager, on the file name, on the image in the preview window & on the original image on my hard drive. Not one of the dialog boxes that opened had any resizing options!
 
Something is obviously different in how we can manipulate our images, maybe we've discovered a clue to the differences here even if accidentally!


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Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)


Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: January 09 2013 at 4:17am
Let me log off for a minute. I'm going to log on with a different browser & see if that makes a difference.

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Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)


Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: January 09 2013 at 4:30am
Ok, I'm back with AOL's browser & I still don't get a file browser anything like yours.
I'll be back in a bit with a screenshot of what I do see.


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Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)


Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: January 09 2013 at 5:15am

Ok, here’s what my file manager looks like. It’s completely different from yours. I can’t find any way to change the screen layout to anything other than what is shown here.

 

A list of filenames down the left hand side, a dialog box for file uploads in the top center together with a used space indicator & an image preview box in the lower right. I've tried 3 browsers & essentially they all have the same view & options.

 

Here is how a right click on a file name’s drop down dialog box looks.

 

& Here is the right click on the preview image’s dialog box.

 

As you can see I never get a built-in resizing option, or any obvious path to one.

What I usually do is resize the original on my computer using an image panipulation program & put all the resized images in a file specifically for uploading low-res images to the web. My usual default setting is an 8X10” image at 96 dpi. This seems to work well for all the forums I post to.



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Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)


Posted By: muffett.2008
Date Posted: January 09 2013 at 4:58pm
Just checked against your responses, I will get the same dialogue boxs if I right click on the screen as I see it.
  In order to get the resize box you need to right click on a stored photo in you image file,not the image name or code,
 not someone elses unless you have saved it to your picture file.
  You obviously don't have the problem, as you resize anyway, the problem seems to exist when either new members post for the first time or members of other forums post here using the same format they are used to on other websites.
  It is a problem we will have to live with until the forum is rich enough to change to another uploader, that would be a pity though, as this one is one of the easiest to use.
  (or place a warning note on the uploader making them take more notice.) 


Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: January 10 2013 at 12:18am
"you need to right click on a stored photo in you image file"
Sorry, I'm being dense. Where exactly is this? In the upload editor or elsewhere I just can't visualize it from your description. I tried in my Win 7 image files & its not there either. What am I missing?


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Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)


Posted By: llaszloboehm
Date Posted: January 10 2013 at 5:18am
Dear Gentlemen,
 
I am using Microsoft Internet Explorer and can see any pictures perfectly, without loadig time, distorsions or whatever. This is on my laptop, no wide screen or something...


Posted By: A square 10
Date Posted: January 10 2013 at 7:29am
im totaly confused , are you guys uploading direct from your puter to the site with this ? bypassing the photo share site like photobucket ?  
 
thats why i went balistic the other day when photobucket tried to upgrade me - ahhhhhhhhh , i just got this down , PHOTOBUCKET TECHYS quit screwin with what works for me


Posted By: llaszloboehm
Date Posted: January 10 2013 at 3:41pm
Hi!
 
I simply upload the pictures directly from my picture section. I use MS Vista and MS Explorer and they go straight away....


Posted By: muffett.2008
Date Posted: January 10 2013 at 4:28pm
Yeah A square, I upload directly, if you use photobucket or that type system, the photo's in your file cease to belong to you, any photoshare system can access your pic's and if you delete the pic it usually removes it from the thread. You probably have noticed some threads where the pic's are not there anymore.

 Shamu, my HP gives the same results as you are finding, but my Acers and Toshiba use the same system, One is on windows 98, the other three are XP, the notebook is windows 7.
 I guess it must be the style windows photoshop, but despite what system it is, you should still resize to suit the systems uploader.


Posted By: A square 10
Date Posted: January 10 2013 at 9:46pm
ok , im going back and reread the instructions provided and give it a try


Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: January 10 2013 at 11:38pm
Thanks, Muffett that explains it. You're resizing in a version of Windows using MS tools in Windows then uploading the smaller image. I thought you'd somehow found a resize option in this sites loader.
 
Yes, we should all rsize for all the reasons posted. My camera at a 6MP setting creates a 2848 X 2136 pixel file 3.27 Megs in size, measuring 39.56' X 29.67". Now the monitor uses a 15" X 12" display using 1280 X 1024 pixels. Thats way bigger & has lots more dots than the screen can show even if I fill it completely. The system tries to squeeze a quart in a pint pot & some viewers get a messed up image because the software at their end can't figure out exactly what changes were made at the forums end & bingo! squished pictures.
 
There are 3 answers, all of which work.
 
Muffet's computer lets him resize at home, save a "mini-copy" & post that. The forum doesn't need to do anything & everyone sees a un messed with picture.
 
You can also send your pciture to an online photo store like PhotoBucket. The Photo Bucket program resizes the picture for you as part of the storing process. In Phototbucket you can choose a size for the stored picture, just like Muffet's computer lets him do. Then you copy the location of the picture on Photobucket to the website by copy/paste of the name. Only the name is posted not the picture. When the site wants to show the picture (because someone asked to see it by opening the thread) it makes a copy of the file & sends it to the site. Remember it was already shrunk when going to PB, so the sent copy is much smaller than the original.
 
Lastly you can use either a program like photoshop, (or any image manipulating program) to resize for you at home. This is what I do. I have a photo program (you might as well, frequently they come with the cameras.) that I use to make a mini-copy. I save it in a seperate folder called "resize & post" & send that shrunken copy to the site.
 
I use both PB & the online image host on here depending on what the material is.


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Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)


Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: January 12 2013 at 2:09am

 

A tutorial, geared to a non computer expert.

First the problems need to be identified.

 

1:  99% of digital cameras or camera phones take pictures way bigger than the forum needs, or can support.

 

2:  Not everyone has the same sized monitor, so we need to try to let everyone see our pictures at their best appearance. What you see on your monitor may look very different to what some other users see.

 

OK, how do we fix that?

The forum’s image software tries to help, but we have to give it something to work with up front so it can do its job. What is that?  Simply put a picture of the correct size in a file of the right volume.

 

There are a few ways to do this, so lets look through them & see what works best for you.

 

1: Upload to an on-line host like “Photo Bucket”:, or “Tinypic”.

This usually resizes for you & some have a choice for how the size is picked & stored. Now all you do is look in your album(s) pick the link (address) of the picture & copy/paste the link into your post. Most of them are free, but offer an add-on “premium” service for a fee. You probably don’t need the premium for what we’re dong here. Disadvantage is that many “own” your picture when you send (upload) it to them. You have to upload once to store & then go fetch it every time you post. That can be time consuming.

 

2: You can upload to the built-in photo host on this forum.

Its fairly basic, but its integrated fully so you just upload & then copy/paste into your posts. Because it’s a basic free service you need a little preparation for it to work well for you. (I’ll cover how to use it in a while, first the prep & some one-time setup you’ll probably find a good thing to do.).

 

You need a photo imaging program (application) to make changes to the picture files you stored. There are several free sources for these & you probably have one (or more) already.

 

The camera’s installation disk. (Usually a basic free photo-editing program is included). Even the very simple ones have some kind of resize option.

 

WINDOWS; (Sorry Mac users, there may be a Mac equivalent but I’m not familiar with it. If you have the Mac info, please post it here for any Mac users.)

Its called either “Paint” or MS Paint” depending on which version of Windows you have. They look a bit different but they all have the basic functions & all allow for resizing. There is a trick for finding it however. Its on the disc & is probably in your computer, but you have to know the secret decoder ring numbers to “turn it on”. Here’s how it’s done.

 

Go to START. >

Go to SEARCH PROGRAMS/FILES >

Type in “[paint or MS Paint]  >

{Right click} pick “SEND TO” >

pick  Desktop (create shortcut)

 

Now you have an icon (little picture) of an artist’s palette. Double click on it to start it running.

*** note: more info a couple of posts down ***



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Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)


Posted By: Eric
Date Posted: January 12 2013 at 6:49am
Thanks for taking this on, Shamu! It's a bit of an undertaking.

Eric


Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: January 13 2013 at 7:37am
No problem, its what I can contribute in my own way.


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Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)


Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: January 13 2013 at 7:40am
OK, guys part 2 of the epic saga.
(Quick 'n dirty cheatsheet is now started, bear with me as I complete it for you over the next few days.  theres a link to is=t further down in this thread, or you can just go to it from the forum thread list.)
 
But I think its important to understand what you're trying to do so you don't mess up & blame po' lil ol' me!Cry
Not that you would.............I hope.
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How do I know if my picture is too big & how do I work out bits, bytes meggathingies & image sizes?

 

Open the folder where the picture is, right click on the picture (or it’s file name) & you’ll see a box with options open up. The bottom one should be labeled as “Properties” click on it. You should now get a different box with several “tabs” at the top or side. Make sure you’re on the “General” one by clicking on it again.

Look at the “size” heading; it should look something like this, (which is how my camera keeps pictures). 1.46 MB (1,540,750 bytes) That is computer talk for a 2848 X 2136 pixel (dot) picture measuring 39.56” X 29.67” way to huge for a computer screen to show & huge so it’s slow to send (upload) or receive (download).

 

How big is a monitor screen?

It depends. Mine is a 19” one & its maximum working size is 1280 X 2136 pixels (dots) so I have to shrink the image by enough to fit the screen. Smaller screens use even less dots, all the way down to 640 X 480 for some laptops.

 

OK so how do I know how big (or small) to make them?

Well the computer will help by making some suggestions.

800 X800 is thought of as a “regular” e-mail size,

1024 X1024 is a “large” e-mail.

640 X 640 is a regular web size, 800 X 800 a large, just to give you some ideas.

 

NOTE: Remember the picture probably isn’t dead square, so one of these sizes will probably be smaller. Pick the longest side to size to & the rest will just fit in proportion, don’t worry about it.

 

So what happens to all the thousands of extra dots if I make it too big?

The software throws them away as it can’t use them!

You can send a huge (I have one that’s 30.1 MB (31,593,718 bytes) one that is 3520 X 2240 dots, that’s 7884800 dots files for a specific use, so the software will throw out everything above 640 X640 (409600) dots even after I’ve waited for ever for them to be sent (uploaded). That means I’ve thrown away 7475200 dots that I waited to be sent!

 

What’s the answer to all this number crunching?

Shrink the picture & save a mini-copy for posting to websites.

Here’s a step-by-step how to, don’t let this intimidate you you’re going to work with a copy so no matter how much you mess up the original is safe. We’re going to use MS PAINT! Because just about everybody has it as it one of those “freebies” included in Windows, all you have to do is turn it on following the instructions above.

 

We’re going to start even simpler than that though by making a special folder (directory) for putting the copies in & working on them. I call mine “RESIZED TO POST” feel free to be creative. We have to do this so there aren’t 2 files (pictures in a .JPG) with the same name. Windows gets all confused if we do that. It also stops you getting confused & deleting an original, or sending a biggie by accident.

 

REMEMBER! Once you throw away pixels they’re gone, you can’t get them back. This is why we only mess with duplicates or copies of the original.

 

STEP1: go to wherever you store your pictures, many versions of Windows have a “MY PICTURES” folder.

On my computer its [COMPUTER] > [pictures] > [My Pictures], yours is probably similar.

Click on [My Pictures} or whatever your folder is called & look for an option called “NEW FOLDER” (usually at the top border) click on it.

You should have a flashing highlighted folder called “New Folder”. Type in whatever you want to call it, like “RESIZED TO POST”, & hit enter to store (save) the new named folder. Right now it’s empty, but we’ll soon fix that.

 

Step 2:

Make copies of the pictures you want to post to the website.

How? Easy.

Find the picture.

Click on “OPEN WITH

You’ll get a list of everything that can open the file; Paint or MS Paint is almost certainly one, click on it.

This opens MS Paint, stuffs the picture into it & waits for you to go to work, all in one easy step.

This is actually how big your picture really is, up till now all you’ve seen is a reworked version, this is the real McCoy, warts & all, huge isn’t it?

 

The first thing we’ll do is save our working copy.

Open the option that says “SAVE AS” (NOT SAVE, BUT SAVE AS. THIS IS IMPORTANT)

You get a box opens with options & a list of folders, go to “RESIZED TO POST” & click to open it.

Hit “SAVE”.

You now have a copy of the picture just sitting there for you to work with. The original is safely tucked away where you can’t harm it if something goes wrong.

 

Step 3:

Now look at the top menus above the picture, there’s one called “RESIZE” click on it.

Now pick a size in pixels. (800X800 is good for most web use) make sure the sizing is in PIXELS not INCHES.

Make sure the “MAINTAIN ASPECT RATIO” box is checked, if it isn’t click on it. (This just keeps the shape the same & lets you enter only one set of numbers, the computer figures out the rest for you.) For example if you have the box checked & enter “800” for the longest side (width, or depth) you’ll be fine.

Look at the picture at 100% magnification, there’s a slider in the bottom right. Is this how you want it to look? If YES then click on the picture of a disk up with all the other thingies.

This saves the picture as a mini-sized copy over writing the original copy you put here. If you want to you can type a different name at the bottom of the box to tag the picture as such. (I frequently just put a letter "S" at the end for "small")



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Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)


Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: January 16 2013 at 1:45am
Quick & dirty "monkey see, monkey do" version is here, just click on the link (the blue type below this)
to go there.
http://enfield-rifles.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=5675&PID=53243&#53243" rel="nofollow - http://enfield-rifles.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=5675&PID=53243&#53243

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