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Topic: tracking serial numbers
Posted By: longshot
Subject: tracking serial numbers
Date Posted: February 20 2013 at 6:35am
is there a site or data base of Enfield serial numbers where a person could track their rifle back to place of manufacture, deployment etc.?


thanks
dean




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Posted By: 25-5
Date Posted: February 20 2013 at 8:04am
Try:
http://www.enfieldcollector.com/serials.html" rel="nofollow - http://www.enfieldcollector.com/serials.html  


Posted By: A square 10
Date Posted: February 20 2013 at 9:32pm
you can get the place of original mfgr , as to deployment there are a few markings put on in service that sometimes help but mostly not ,


Posted By: Big B
Date Posted: December 14 2020 at 1:56pm
That MLE with a s/n of 252 must be a pretty rare one then. such a low number.


Posted By: Goosic
Date Posted: December 14 2020 at 9:15pm
Not necessarily Big B.
Your rifle,even with your 252 serial number does not mean it is pretty rare.
There were more than 317,000 Mk I MLE rifles produced and nearly 600,000 Mk I* MLE rifles. Yours falls into the category of having a low serial number and one of 917,000 produced. A very collectable rifle indeed, but by no means rare.
I have a No4 MkI cruciform bayonet made by Singer Sewing Machine. It is one of 75,000. It is highly collectable but not rare. I also have a No7MkI/L Land Service swiveling pommel blade bayonet intended for the MkV submachine gun but will also fit the No4Mk1 Enfield.  It is one of  2500 out of 25,000 made by BSA.  Very collectable in its own right but still not rare. 
Again Big B, you have a very collectable and sought after rifle and in pristine condition would fetch a handsome sum of money. The low serial number does not mean rare, just very collectable...


Posted By: Big B
Date Posted: December 14 2020 at 9:54pm
Goosic, I finally get what you mean, there are lots of them! It is a good collectable one of many due to the lower s/n.    
I have no clue what this kind of gun is worth, I guess it is whatever someone will pay.   What should I mark down for insurance value? Any idea? Just a ball park would work, I have seen some Enfield for $600 and some for $2500. I have no clue. 
Thanks form being patient with me, the enfield rookie I am!


Posted By: Goosic
Date Posted: December 14 2020 at 10:24pm
Insurance value would best be conducted by an insurance company that deals specifically with firearm relics such as a 124 year old Lee-Enfield rifle.
I myself could not even hazard a guess on a price. 


Posted By: Big B
Date Posted: December 14 2020 at 10:35pm
yah I don’t have a clue ether.  The insurance guy I use has no clue on guns, I have asked before. They are idiots.  Maybe I will phone some gun shops and see if I can get someone who has a guesstimate.   Again, thanks for the help!

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Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: December 15 2020 at 4:37am
Remember, geographical location affects values, as well. (Thats why I prefer people to list their location)
That RIFLE may be worth $10 in Ontario, but $50 in Alta.(Just sayin)


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Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: December 15 2020 at 7:37am
The usual suggestion is to look for what is the selling price on gun-broker & take the average of sold ones on there for "fair market value".


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Posted By: Big B
Date Posted: December 15 2020 at 9:58am
good idea, I will have. Peek!  Thanks for the tips!


Posted By: shiloh
Date Posted: December 16 2020 at 2:47pm
A MK1 MLE in 7-9/10 condition which is average for what I`ve been seeing over the last couple of yrs are in the range of $1500- $2500
And to get that, the rifle has to be original original original, matching numbers through out, not mismatched sported or refurbished.
Best to get an appraisal though, and like all things, firearms values fluctuate, more so here in Canada lately.


Posted By: superowen21
Date Posted: November 26 2024 at 2:43pm
Anyone able to give info on this serial of a NO4 MK1 I just picked up. 72C 3776

Thanks!


Posted By: shiloh
Date Posted: November 27 2024 at 5:01am
Savage made, last quarter of 1943, 723,776th rifle off the assembly line


Posted By: Enfield-Stuff
Date Posted: November 27 2024 at 6:06pm
Originally posted by Big B Big B wrote:

yah I don’t have a clue ether.  The insurance guy I use has no clue on guns, I have asked before. They are idiots.  Maybe I will phone some gun shops and see if I can get someone who has a guesstimate.   Again, thanks for the help!

Actually, you do have a clue.  What did you pay for it?  That's the value number.

What is it worth to someone else?  That's an entirely different question.  You won't know that number until you sell it.  It might be more than you paid for it - it might be less.

Your insurance people don't care if it's worth $500 or $5000 - should a loss (theft, fire, etc.) occur, you'll get the market value at the time of the loss.  Paying extra to put $5000 insurance on a $500 rifle just means you're paying premium for something you'll never get - $5000 for a $500 rifle. 

Lastly, if you're in the USA, your standard homeowner's policy covers firearms for things like fire and theft.  It's just stuff - no different than a box of tools in the basement. Look at your "contents" coverage (also called "unscheduled personal property" - it's usually the third line (coverage "c") with a dollar limit after that.  That's the policy limit on all your "stuff".  

I wouldn't sweat it.











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Posted By: Sapper740
Date Posted: November 28 2024 at 2:46am
Originally posted by shiloh shiloh wrote:

A MK1 MLE in 7-9/10 condition which is average for what I`ve been seeing over the last couple of yrs are in the range of $1500- $2500
And to get that, the rifle has to be original original original, matching numbers through out, not mismatched sported or refurbished.
Best to get an appraisal though, and like all things, firearms values fluctuate, more so here in Canada lately.

^^^^This^^^^

I've greatly extended my collection the last three years and have picked up, among others a Fulton regulated No.1 MkIII*, an MLE MkI*, a C.L.L.E., and a Ross MkIII all of which are in 9.5/10 condition or better. You pay a premium for rarity in condition as much as you pay a premium for rarity in numbers.  The first three were all in the $2,000+ USD range, the Ross was over twice that due to two other bidders wanting the Ross as badly as I did.  It should be in a museum.  I've documented the condition and prices paid for the rifles should I experience a loss and I've discussed their value with my insurance agent.  They suggested I get an expert appraisal to which I responded I'm probably the only expert within 500 miles who can accurately gauge their value.  They agreed to accept my valuations.



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