Ejecting case problems No2mkIV
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Topic: Ejecting case problems No2mkIV
Posted By: Zed
Subject: Ejecting case problems No2mkIV
Date Posted: June 18 2013 at 4:22am
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On the first test of my No2mkIV* I found the ejection of the cases is not very reliable. I was having to close the bolt a second time on the spent cartridge to eject it; and occasionally had to manually pull it out. Could this be because I pushed the round too far into the chamber before closing the bolt? Or is it more likely I need to replace the ejector claw and spring? If so, where can I find an ejector claw and spring? thanks, Zed. ------------- It's nice to be important, but it's more important to be nice! |
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Posted By: muffett.2008
Date Posted: June 18 2013 at 6:25pm
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Two points to consider Zed, firstly is the extractor groove clogged with crud? .22's are renowned for the buildup of wax.
You should look at both the extractor and the recess in the chamber.
Secondly, these rifles were designed to operate with the old standard .22 long round, modern cartridges are a fraction longer in the case, you may be trying to crimp the case if you have a short chamber. It may be worthwhile to inspect your cases to see where the bind may be. Also you will find they have a preference for low velocity rounds, although the odd one handles hi velocity pretty well.  |
Posted By: Zed
Date Posted: June 19 2013 at 2:39am
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Thanks for the info muffet. I will check it out. I have only tried a few rounds of Eley and a few Geco at the moment, the Geco was worse at extracting. I only use sub sonic .22 rounds in my no8's so will continue with those for this rifle also, although I will try some different varieties. The No8's have different diets, so I expect this will have it's own preference as well. ------------- It's nice to be important, but it's more important to be nice! |
Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: June 19 2013 at 6:37am
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Maybe I'm mistaken but I thought the cases for .22 long & .22 long rifle were the same? The bullet in the LR is heavier & longer, but that shouldn't effect extracting the empty case. I'd favor the weak spring, crud under the claw, in the spring recess or in the cut in the breech to start trouble shooting. The extractor claw is supposed to "snap over" the case rim when chambering, so anything limiting its ability to do so would be suspect I suspect!
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Posted By: paddyofurniture
Date Posted: June 19 2013 at 7:15am
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Check your chamber for a wax / crud build up. I use boiling water.
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Posted By: Zed
Date Posted: July 15 2013 at 4:23am
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I have now solved the extraction problem on my No2, and the problem was not quite what I expected! I purchased an SMLE extractor claw and spring, because I expected the problem to be the claw or spring. The No2 claw and SMLE ones are the same length, only need to reduce the thickness of the claw end and radius the front edge for the narrower cartridge. See photos taken before and during the modification. SMLE on the right.   modified one is at the top. However this did not fix the problem. I had noticed the empty case was tight in the chamber and had suspected it was because it was a fired case, so I tried the same case in my new CZ.22 and it went straight in. I blued the case and found that the entrance of the chamber was scoring the case and causing excessive resistance; (the case is centered on a cleaning rod in the photo)  A gentle lapping of the chamber entrance and a now all is well. Extracted my 15 test rounds without a glitch. I believe the cause of the tightening of the throat is because the original claw appears modified so only the tip rubs in the channel on the barrel, causing excessive load on the chamber edge as you close the bolt; plus they had added a spring stronger than the new SMLE spring which compounds the problem. ------------- It's nice to be important, but it's more important to be nice! |
Posted By: paddyofurniture
Date Posted: July 15 2013 at 4:33am
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Great work Zed!
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Posted By: Bear43
Date Posted: July 15 2013 at 5:29am
| Good job on getting it figured out and fixed, and for showing the extractors. I bet you have a lot more fun with that ol' girl now! |
Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: July 15 2013 at 11:04pm
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I wonder if someone was dry-firing the rimfire before you got it & peened the chamber as little? Good fix though! ------------- Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force) |
Posted By: paddyofurniture
Date Posted: July 16 2013 at 12:11am
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Now this is"tribal knowledge "we will all remember when we look at 22 Enfields. ------------- Always looking for military manuals, Dodge M37 items,books on Berlin Germany, old atlases ( before 1946) , military maps of Scotland. English and Canadian gun parts. |
Posted By: Zed
Date Posted: July 16 2013 at 4:08am
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You could be right Shamu! I had not considered that because I know not to dry fire the 22's; but the firing pin is quite big on this model and leaves quite a dent on a .22 round. It could possibly strike the edge of the chamber if dry fired. Now I need to get it sighted in properly and test some ammo. More fun at the range  ------------- It's nice to be important, but it's more important to be nice! |
Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: July 16 2013 at 9:37pm
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Any excuse to get back to the range is a good one! ------------- Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force) |
Posted By: paddyofurniture
Date Posted: July 16 2013 at 11:59pm
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Make a glorious noise until to the Enfield.
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