1965 2A1 Refurb.
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Topic: 1965 2A1 Refurb.
Posted By: Okchief
Subject: 1965 2A1 Refurb.
Date Posted: January 02 2016 at 1:02pm
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I'm doing a complete teardown and refurbish of a 1965 Ishy. Charles Stratton's book shows the barrel screws into the Action body assembly. Has anyone unscrewed the barrel from the action body? Are there special tools required, specific torque settings for re-assembly? Is this even a good idea or should I refurb with the barrel/action body attached as is? Clamping the barrel so it doesn't spin seems to be the biggest hurdle to separating the two. Any help is appreciated. Thanks.
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Posted By: ikesdad
Date Posted: January 03 2016 at 10:04pm
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Nope, forget taking the barrel off the receiver. Ya don't pull the engine when detailing a vehicle.
------------- Pro Deo et Patria |
Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: January 04 2016 at 5:58am
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YES! You must have a "barrel vice" & a "receiver wrench" specifically designed for that model & mark of rifle or there's a good chance you'll warp the receiver. Those are screwed in there tight! ------------- Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force) |
Posted By: ikesdad
Date Posted: January 04 2016 at 8:59am
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Yes to what ? Barrel vise and receiver wrench as SOP to remove the barrel ? or Removing the barrel for a home refurb ?
------------- Pro Deo et Patria |
Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: January 04 2016 at 1:05pm
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Must have barrel vice & receiver wrench to remove barrel. (for any reason) ------------- Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force) |
Posted By: ikesdad
Date Posted: January 04 2016 at 5:34pm
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Just my point. Your answer, as worded, seemed to give the impression that one should remove the barrel from the receiver to do a refurb. ------------- Pro Deo et Patria |
Posted By: A square 10
Date Posted: January 04 2016 at 5:43pm
| do post photos of your journey , we all want to see this one , |
Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: January 05 2016 at 7:48am
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Not my intent, sorry. ------------- Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force) |
Posted By: Okchief
Date Posted: January 05 2016 at 8:58am
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Thanks to all for the replies. This is my first attempt at a weapon refurb. although I've done refurbs on other things and do a lot of my own DIY's around the house and am pretty handy. Someone asked for some before pics so here they are. The furniture is in decent shape, the butt stock is the most beaten up. All the metal was coated in the rock hard black paint like substance with gaps and
 a little rust. The barrel is not in the best of shape so that's why I plan to completely strip and re-blue or re-black it. |
Posted By: ikesdad
Date Posted: January 05 2016 at 9:47am
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Figured that. Just a clarification for a novice. ------------- Pro Deo et Patria |
Posted By: A square 10
Date Posted: January 05 2016 at 4:37pm
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that black paint is the original finish , these were not blued or parkerized , the finish is always in some less than perfect condition , but these are found in fairly nice original look sometimes as well , ive seen refinishes that approach the original look quite well , again post more photos as you progress down this path - we love to see a project fruit
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Posted By: ikesdad
Date Posted: January 05 2016 at 8:41pm
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A soda blast (not bead blast) followed by a duracoat job will look good on that metal. ------------- Pro Deo et Patria |
Posted By: Canuck
Date Posted: January 05 2016 at 9:07pm
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I agree ikesdad. Bead blast leaves a more porous finish and with the new Duracoat finish would not look as original as the old black. ------------- Castles made of sand slip into the sea.....eventually |
Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: January 06 2016 at 7:12am
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Weren't there 2 paint finishes? One (fairly decent) was the actual standard finish, while the other (thick, gloppy messy, looking like it was done with a wide paintbrush) was an "extra preservative". ------------- Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force) |
Posted By: paddyofurniture
Date Posted: January 06 2016 at 8:22am
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All the black paint finish I have seen look like it was painted by Hoadie with a cheap brush and bad paint. ------------- Always looking for military manuals, Dodge M37 items,books on Berlin Germany, old atlases ( before 1946) , military maps of Scotland. English and Canadian gun parts. |
Posted By: Okchief
Date Posted: January 06 2016 at 8:41am
The original furniture came in 3 very different types of wood. The fore end group and the rear hand guard were of a lighter color, the butt stock something a little darker and coarser grained and the front hand guard was the darkest and even coarser grained. It became obvious I couldn't lighten the front hand guard and the butt stock to match the fore end group without possible damage or irreversible bleaching. I decided to darken the lighter pieces to more closely match the front hand guard. Here's what the butt stock and rear hand guard look like after some Minwax Espresso stain in comparison to the fore end group un-stained.
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Posted By: A square 10
Date Posted: January 06 2016 at 8:06pm
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you can 'blend' a finish to match by dry brushing with various stains - used extensively in high end refinish of antiques , but it takes a lot of time and patience , it is worth it in the end , it also takes a little cash as you need to buy a small [expensive] can of stain in every color you see represented and a separate good quality brush [also expensive] for each color but they last well as your not saturating them only barely touching them to the color for blending purposes , start with good wood tho - no future in this effort in bad lumber ,
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Posted By: Yaworski
Date Posted: January 15 2016 at 5:36am
Over the years, I've given serious thought to having mine Parkerized. I saw one once and it looked really nice. The owner told me that his father had been given the rifle as a gift by an Indian official and that it came with that finish. Interesting story but the finish did look nice.
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ikesdad wrote: