Mk3 plastic scabbard
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Topic: Mk3 plastic scabbard
Posted By: Canuck
Subject: Mk3 plastic scabbard
Date Posted: February 25 2016 at 12:45pm
Got another bayonet for my collection. New condition bayonet still in the cosmoline. Scabbard is new as well. Just need a frog now. ------------- Castles made of sand slip into the sea.....eventually |
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Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: February 25 2016 at 4:47pm
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I understand the frogs are in full song at Rhinos...grab ye one there. ------------- Loose wimmen tightened here |
Posted By: Canuck
Date Posted: February 25 2016 at 4:49pm
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Ribbit! Thanks! ------------- Castles made of sand slip into the sea.....eventually |
Posted By: A square 10
Date Posted: February 27 2016 at 9:48pm
| nice , one you needed to add - there are some others by victory plastics that are worth seeking out if you have not done so - two versions [ive only found one so far] i need to shoot more photos i think , |
Posted By: Canuck
Date Posted: February 28 2016 at 8:27am
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That would be great! ------------- Castles made of sand slip into the sea.....eventually |
Posted By: Canuck
Date Posted: March 02 2016 at 5:13pm
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I wasn't aware there were 2 versions of the Victory Plastics scabbard. I need to dig out my boxes of books I haven't un-packed since my latest relocation.Thanks for bringing that to my attention, A Square 10! ------------- Castles made of sand slip into the sea.....eventually |
Posted By: A square 10
Date Posted: March 02 2016 at 8:37pm
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the story is that its all about the hanger/frog and its attachment , not having the second version in hand i cannot attest to the accuracy personally , i have the early version of the M5 with riveted frog , [the webbing is doubled above the mouth piece , british & commonwealth bayonets only shows one version of the M5 victory plastic scabbard , same one i have , P340 of the bible only shows one version as well , jansen barley mentions the scabbard other than to call it uncommon , also appears to be the same one i have , but priests book - spirit of the pike , P148-9 shows both and the difference , the original had domed rivets fastening the frog to the back of the body , the rivets were flat snaps for the the second M5 version which has a removable press stud frog , webb appears tripled above the mouthpiece , the body of the scabbard is the same and both marked with VP for victory plastics , the later version had a shorter belt loop , no production stats are available but by extrapolation based on other production they think half million of the early version and 100K of the later , BTW - i still look for the second version passively , but much like the HAK no2 mkI revolver im not holding my breath ,
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Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: March 03 2016 at 3:44am
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I gave Rhino a Bayo & metal scabbard a while back. Can't remember if there was any stampings on it or not. Rhino - you got a line on this? ------------- Loose wimmen tightened here |
Posted By: A square 10
Date Posted: March 03 2016 at 4:30pm
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there were more than one of those as well , if we are still talking for no4 , the mk I was the tapered version -with the ball at the end , the mk II was straight walled with a flat bottom , your plastic version is the mk III with rounded bottom , i have these three and the early victory plastic version there was a canadian metal mk III with rounded bottom , and the two US M3 , there was a third VP version with a metal throat piece and snap off belt loop but it may have been a repair/refurb variation , thats why i didnt mention it before , in development there was a tapered plastic version mk I -no ball , but it was experimental canadian , two [A & B] early experimental bakelite versions of the mk I -no ball , and an impregnated cloth version of the mk I -with ball , there were aluminum bodied versions as well as the steel and there was a muriad of mouthpiece versions too then there are the frogs and securing tabs and other accessory bits
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Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: March 03 2016 at 5:31pm
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The one I gave Rhino must've been the Mk 1 then, cuz I remember the ball @ the bottom ------------- Loose wimmen tightened here |
Posted By: White Rhino
Date Posted: March 04 2016 at 6:21am
Hoadie it would be hard to find out now .... its on the shelf with my others and has been moved around so many times I dont know which is which !!! ------------- "White Rhino" "Everybody's got to believe in something. I believe I'll have another beer." --W. C. Fields |
hoadie wrote:Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: March 04 2016 at 3:21pm
Arrgh! The Rhino Filing / storage system  PLEASE!!  Don't put the baby on that shelf!!  Or wont find her til shes round bout 16!!  ------------- Loose wimmen tightened here |
Posted By: paddyofurniture
Date Posted: March 04 2016 at 9:56pm
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I think he is still looking for his beer. ------------- Always looking for military manuals, Dodge M37 items,books on Berlin Germany, old atlases ( before 1946) , military maps of Scotland. English and Canadian gun parts. |
Posted By: A square 10
Date Posted: March 06 2016 at 8:22pm
| finding the beer is priority , finding the granddaughter at 16 ...i think that might be more than he can handle , best keep tabs on her along the way so she knows who has thew ammo when she needs it |
Posted By: paddyofurniture
Date Posted: March 07 2016 at 9:49am
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Teach them well and early. ------------- Always looking for military manuals, Dodge M37 items,books on Berlin Germany, old atlases ( before 1946) , military maps of Scotland. English and Canadian gun parts. |
Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: March 07 2016 at 2:03pm
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no bloody fear bout that..all Rhino's girls can / will shoot (& shoot well!) I really don't think Lisa or Megs would hesitate much if they had to use force..& they're proficient! (Watch the "jewels", cuz they would be shot away...fer good measure) ------------- Loose wimmen tightened here |
Posted By: paddyofurniture
Date Posted: March 08 2016 at 9:10am
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In the words of my Mother, "you can not rape a 38" and she carried a nice 38 SW. ------------- Always looking for military manuals, Dodge M37 items,books on Berlin Germany, old atlases ( before 1946) , military maps of Scotland. English and Canadian gun parts. |
Posted By: White Rhino
Date Posted: March 08 2016 at 9:43pm
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Does it look like the forum is stuck on the same posts ???? I guess we will see if this post gets through .... ------------- "White Rhino" "Everybody's got to believe in something. I believe I'll have another beer." --W. C. Fields |
Posted By: A square 10
Date Posted: March 09 2016 at 7:14pm
| im not answering any questions without my lawyer = just sayin |
Posted By: A square 10
Date Posted: April 07 2016 at 6:00pm
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REVIVAL TIME - i found the photos i was looking for of the various scabbards - thought it might be of interest to some that are collecting these to see them , http://s1034.photobucket.com/user/watabmike/media/mikesphotos-5010_zps43344ea1.jpg.html" rel="nofollow">  far left is the mkI , the next is the metal tube mkII , the next is the plastic tube mkIII [i dont have photo of the canadian steel version of this one] and the right one is the Victory Plastics M5 scabbard , this is the original riveted version with the doubled web frog loop , there is a second that has alluded me so far which has a removable press stud frog with tripled webb , http://s1034.photobucket.com/user/watabmike/media/mikesphotos-5009_zpsd4102d65.jpg.html" rel="nofollow">  http://s1034.photobucket.com/user/watabmike/media/mikesphotos-5007_zpsf473f8de.jpg.html" rel="nofollow">  |
Posted By: paddyofurniture
Date Posted: April 08 2016 at 9:39am
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Very cool. ------------- Always looking for military manuals, Dodge M37 items,books on Berlin Germany, old atlases ( before 1946) , military maps of Scotland. English and Canadian gun parts. |
Posted By: Canuck
Date Posted: April 08 2016 at 3:09pm
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Thanks for posting those pics! ------------- Castles made of sand slip into the sea.....eventually |
Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: April 08 2016 at 3:37pm
A Sq: Your house must be a military museum!  Some guys have all the luck! ------------- Loose wimmen tightened here |
Posted By: A square 10
Date Posted: April 08 2016 at 5:44pm
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im thankful for what i have , far less than many who visit here and elsewhere , i have made an effort in this area after abandoning my US collection , and im always willing to share what i have found , there are so many things on the list yet to find here is a nice savage no4 mkII i found a while back http://s1034.photobucket.com/user/watabmike/media/mikesphotos-5008_zps51e013b4.jpg.html" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: April 08 2016 at 6:32pm
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..& to think, the U.S. mentality of the day was: "Inferior equipment" IMHO, aside from the fact that the Garand (designed by a French Cdn) was semi auto - it wasn't the battle rifle the L/E was. (Neither was the B.A.R. compared to the Bren) ------------- Loose wimmen tightened here |
Posted By: paddyofurniture
Date Posted: April 08 2016 at 10:00pm
I do not think so Hoadie. And by the way US beer is the best. ------------- Always looking for military manuals, Dodge M37 items,books on Berlin Germany, old atlases ( before 1946) , military maps of Scotland. English and Canadian gun parts. |
Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: April 09 2016 at 8:07am
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..Paddy - you really do have a problem with reality after all...I mean they told me you did..but I didn't believe it.I do now! As for US beer..can't argue there...cuz its like making love in a canoe...FU*KI%G near water!!(& that's usually pleasureable..well, as I recall, anyway)  ------------- Loose wimmen tightened here |
Posted By: paddyofurniture
Date Posted: April 09 2016 at 8:32am
Tip a canoe with Hoadie and his girl friend too. I do not have a problem with reality,my reality is just fine. Everyone elses reality is just a bit off or strange. ------------- Always looking for military manuals, Dodge M37 items,books on Berlin Germany, old atlases ( before 1946) , military maps of Scotland. English and Canadian gun parts. |