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Topic: new member, moderate time fan
Posted By: catscratcher
Subject: new member, moderate time fan
Date Posted: March 11 2018 at 12:01am
I have only seen two enfield rifles in 30 years. just two. One was owned by a relative, and I wasn't allowed to see it for more then a few minutes when that relative sold it to someone.
 
Second time in a gun store, I think it was a Mitche!!s mausers item, it was in need of restoration. Wood needed a refinish and the metal needed help. The barrel had no visible rifling whatsoever. I admit it could have been rusted out or simply full of TAR, but it wasn't "right". I think they wanted 900$ for it.
 
As a result I have become interested in owning own, thought the 22 trainer would be interesting, but they cost much much more then a regular beater enfield its not funny.
 
I cried myself to sleep the day I received the classic arms email announcing they had a batch of "demilled" enfields arrive. Turns out they were simply the welded firing pin variety that any drunken monkey can get back to firing condition in a few hours.
   Cried I got the announcement email 3 days after the sale ended.



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Posted By: A square 10
Date Posted: March 11 2018 at 6:22pm
welcome , we are gald you have joined us - you will find here that your past experience is not the norm , there are a lot of enfieds out there in all states or disrepair and completion , as well as sported models that offer hunters execelent options , 

i agree the demils make me sad , its why we save what we can get our hands on today , the original 303s are super rifles , the 22 cal trainers are as well , but yes the prices have gone a bit batty - look a lot buy carefully , ask questions here or of those you trust that are knowledgeable , dont go foolishly forward without information , it might take a little time to research what you are buying but it is always worth it in the savings of a misstaken buy  , 


Posted By: britrifles
Date Posted: March 12 2018 at 4:28am
Welcome to the forum.  I see No. 1 and No. 4 rifles fairly regularly at gun shows in the SE US.  Most are a bit beat up, some chopped up.  Considering how many were made, I'm surprised we don't see more of them.  I don't know how many were brought into the US either, but they were very cheap at one time...those times are gone.


Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: March 12 2018 at 5:40am
That rifle you saw with the smooth-bore barrel might have been the .410 shotgun conversion.


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Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)


Posted By: paddyofurniture
Date Posted: March 12 2018 at 7:03am
Welcome!

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Always looking for military manuals, Dodge M37 items,books on Berlin Germany, old atlases ( before 1946) , military maps of Scotland. English and Canadian gun parts.


Posted By: Macd
Date Posted: March 12 2018 at 7:17am
Welcome.  Lots of good information here.

Yup the price has gone up considerably.   Trench stakes are going for the same price as a new economy rifle like a Savage Axis.   They were so cheap once,  I paid less than $30 for one back in the early 70's at Sears.  As a result they were seen as pretty utilitarian and treated as such.  Real collector's ones in very good condition are now all well over $1,000 with some in the $2,000 range.


Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: March 12 2018 at 8:48am
If you shop round a bit yo should still find decent .303  ones for $450~550 or so depending on your location. .22 trainers are rarer & so more expensive.
You could even buy a .22 conversion kit  & use it in a .303 & have both!


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Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)


Posted By: britrifles
Date Posted: March 12 2018 at 1:00pm
Anyone know what a excellent condition No. 7 rifle would go for in the US?  Dad still has one...


Posted By: Macd
Date Posted: March 13 2018 at 3:33am
Originally posted by britrifles britrifles wrote:


Anyone know what a excellent condition No. 7 rifle would go for in the US?  Dad still has one...


Without knowing condition hard to estimate but here is one example.

http://www.icollector.com/Excellent-Canadian-Long-Branch-No-7-Mk-I-22-Training-Rifle-with-Transit-Chest_i17060913" rel="nofollow - http://www.icollector.com/Excellent-Canadian-Long-Branch-No-7-Mk-I-22-Training-Rifle-with-Transit-Chest_i17060913


Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: March 13 2018 at 6:22am
Without a chest that would drop a bit but probably still in the $1500.oo range


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Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)


Posted By: Honkytonk
Date Posted: March 13 2018 at 7:32am
How tough are those .22 conversion kits to install?


Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: March 13 2018 at 8:23am
These are never fitted so there's a little individual finishing required. No more than swapping a bolt & head type of thing. After that is just gets greased slid in the nut tightened & the new bolt assembly swapped out.
Oh & remove the magazine spring & follower, the empty she!! acts as a brass trash can.



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Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)



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