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Topic: Canadian Rangers
Posted By: Honkytonk
Subject: Canadian Rangers
Date Posted: April 07 2018 at 6:12am
Well. Looks like our Northern Rangers are finally getting their replacement for the Lee Enfield. Some Sako .308. I guess time will tell if it is as sturdy and dependable as the Old War Horse was. Kind of sad...



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Posted By: Macd
Date Posted: April 07 2018 at 7:58am
http://ottawacitizen.com/news/national/defence-watch/new-rifles-for-the-canadian-rangers-now-being-delivered" rel="nofollow - http://ottawacitizen.com/news/national/defence-watch/new-rifles-for-the-canadian-rangers-now-being-delivered

Nice rifle.


Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: April 07 2018 at 8:43am
Never having used a Tikka I wonder how they're going to like the different bolt?
I remember my first experience with a Rem 700 I hated that "floppy" bolt. There's going to be a period of adjustment for sure!


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Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)


Posted By: Macd
Date Posted: April 07 2018 at 9:18am
Quite a few Rangers were involved in the selection and testing of the new rifle.  From reports they seem to like it.


Posted By: Goosic
Date Posted: April 07 2018 at 2:29pm
Originally posted by Shamu Shamu wrote:

Never having used a Tikka I wonder how they're going to like the different bolt?
I remember my first experience with a Rem 700 I hated that "floppy" bolt. There's going to be a period of adjustment for sure!

I've shot a Tikka T3 .270.
Very smooth bolt action.


Posted By: A square 10
Date Posted: April 08 2018 at 7:08pm
very sad - last bastion of these on this continent i think 


Posted By: Canuck
Date Posted: April 08 2018 at 7:52pm
You are most likely correct A square 10.

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Posted By: Goosic
Date Posted: April 08 2018 at 8:03pm
This question is mainly for my Canadian friends but open to all with an answer.
Is there anyway to approach the Canadian Rangers via some government viaduct and ask about some form of surplus buy out of these rifles?
Right up a petition,we all sign it,and for pennies on the dollar,we combine any extra income we all have and state that we will purchase as many as we can so to preserve and protect the history of these rifles.


Posted By: paddyofurniture
Date Posted: April 08 2018 at 8:09pm
Unfair, I live in the States, but my Father was born in Canada.

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Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: April 09 2018 at 4:12am
Well, if recent past attitudes hold...you'd have a "snowball's chance"
A lot of folks wanted the Browning side arms they dispensed with. They ignored the pleas, & destroyed them.

The Rangers will probably be allowed to retain their service rifles.(Since they deprive them of everything else!) Perhaps some of them may sell them off. (Then again - there isn't a whole lot of Rangers, either.)
Guess all we can do is wait & see what Canadian Crown Assets disposal decides to do. If they sell any off - it will probably be out of the country.

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Posted By: Goosic
Date Posted: April 09 2018 at 10:22am
I'm hoping then that,if they do sell out of the country,they might sell to someone that lives in another country? Perhaps to someone living in Arizona.


Posted By: Honkytonk
Date Posted: April 09 2018 at 10:59am
I had read the Rangers would be allowed to keep their service Enfields. The rest of the inventory (parts, etc) would be available to the public. I suspect if this happens before we vote the Conservatives in in '19, the Liberals will destroy the remaining history.


Posted By: Macd
Date Posted: April 09 2018 at 11:47am
The Brownings are still general issue.  They will be several years before they are fully replaced as a replacement hasn't been chosen.  Those being destroyed are frames and slides deemed beyond servicing.  They are buying Sigs as a stop gap with both the P225 and P226 in inventory.  My friend's son was in Special Operations Command and used a H&K USP.

The Rangers rifles are National Defence property and it would require a special administrative order to give them to individual Rangers.  As of January this year no decision had been made with respect to their disposal.  Once they are declared surplus their disposal is handled by GCSurplus, a branch of Public Services and Procurement Canada.  I am not sure but perhaps ITAR may prevent any sales outside of Canada.   Don't be surprised if they are sold as one lot including all spares.


Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: April 09 2018 at 12:32pm
MacD:I read - as well - that the Rangers would be allowed to keep their Enfields. (Methinks it was either in Legion magazine or E'sprit du Corps magazine.)
Given the fact that they always had to supply their own snow sleds etc, it would seem the least they could do.(& when it comes to the LEAST they can do - our so called gov't takes that to new depths!)

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Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: April 09 2018 at 3:22pm
I heard they'd be sold them  at a  discount?


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Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)


Posted By: Macd
Date Posted: April 09 2018 at 7:32pm
Originally posted by hoadie hoadie wrote:

MacD:I read - as well - that the Rangers would be allowed to keep their Enfields. (Methinks it was either in Legion magazine or E'sprit du Corps magazine.)
Given the fact that they always had to supply their own snow sleds etc, it would seem the least they could do.(& when it comes to the LEAST they can do - our so called gov't takes that to new depths!)


Perhaps and I would be all for it as I have worked with the Rangers before both on the Island and in Labrador.  It can be done but the rules have specific requirements to be met with respect to the write-off and disposal of federal property.  Also, if I recall correctly, Rangers are paid a daily allowance when using their snowmobiles or sleds during a patrol or other callout as well as being paid a daily wage.  Having said that they are always the first to volunteer for community SAR and other emergencies. I suspect that some of those rifles were in the local patrols long before many of the people currently using them were born.  If you can reference something that says they will stay there I would be most grateful to read same.  It would make me very happy.


Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: April 09 2018 at 8:06pm
Macd: Do you not get Legion magazine? (U being a veterean & all)
What about E'sprit des corps?

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Posted By: Macd
Date Posted: April 10 2018 at 5:19am
Originally posted by hoadie hoadie wrote:

Macd: Do you not get Legion magazine? (U being a veterean & all)
What about E'sprit des corps?


No to both.  I still have some old copies of "Sentinel" kicking around though.  I guess I am not the nostalgic type in that respect.  After 41 years of Military/Public Service I suppose I had my fill.  I still occasionally run into old comrades and people I worked/served with or served together on various federal committees over the years.  Most like me are retired.  I do read a lot of military history primarily about the two world wars.    Military technology has always interested me too.


Posted By: Honkytonk
Date Posted: April 10 2018 at 6:10am
As I mentioned a while back, I tried to enlist in the Canadian Reserves. I tried 20 years ago, but my work would not allow the eight weeks off for basic training. Now retired, I felt I had something to offer and the time to do it. I'm deemed to old as they said I would need to finish a three year commitment before I turned 60. Oh well.


Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: April 10 2018 at 9:24am
Here you go:
http://ottawacitizen.com/news/national/defence-watch/canadian-rangers-might-be-able-to-keep-their-lee-enfield-rifles" rel="nofollow - http://ottawacitizen.com/news/national/defence-watch/canadian-rangers-might-be-able-to-keep-their-lee-enfield-rifles



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Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)


Posted By: paddyofurniture
Date Posted: April 10 2018 at 9:29am
Page not working.

Just like Hoadie.

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Posted By: Macd
Date Posted: April 10 2018 at 10:26am
Originally posted by Shamu Shamu wrote:

Here you go:
http://ottawacitizen.com/news/national/defence-watch/canadian-rangers-might-be-able-to-keep-their-lee-enfield-rifles" rel="nofollow - http://ottawacitizen.com/news/national/defence-watch/canadian-rangers-might-be-able-to-keep-their-lee-enfield-rifles



We can only hope.  It will take a Minister to make that kind of decision I am sure. 


Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: April 10 2018 at 12:41pm
Odd! It works for me.
Try this one it links to the one I posted above.
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2015/07/30/canadian-rangers-optional-to-keep-lee-enfields/" rel="nofollow - http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2015/07/30/canadian-rangers-optional-to-keep-lee-enfields/



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Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)


Posted By: Bent Pins
Date Posted: November 25 2019 at 6:58pm
Hey All, I'm new, first post.
I got my hands on the SAR version of the "C19" that's the designation for the new rifle.
It's a nice rifle, chambered in 308 win, bolt action and 10 round detachable magazine. the stock is removable to shorten the overall length for stowing or parachuting. It has an awesome muzzle-break that deduces recoil too. As evident by the Blaze Orange it's for SAR. Take a look at the photo with the pen, it is pointing to a small tab under the safety that you "booger with" to be able to cycle the bolt with the safety on. Imagine doing that with gloves.


Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: November 25 2019 at 7:21pm
"Canada" includes alot of real estate'
Do you think you could narrow it down a tad?

Just askin...

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Posted By: Honkytonk
Date Posted: November 26 2019 at 6:27am
Welcome from Brandon, Manitoba, Canada!



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