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Topic: There goes Due Process in MD!
Posted By: Shamu
Subject: There goes Due Process in MD!
Date Posted: April 24 2018 at 2:22pm
Our (Conservative (yeah, right)) Governor signed the Hideous MD HR 1302 into law.
Angry
Its called the "Bag Lady Law" because anyone, anywhere, anytime can simply file an (anonymous)  affidavit that they were "Affearet for their Safety, because they could have been KILT or even worse" by you.
No they do not have to name a specific event, time or place.

The police IMMEDIATELY come & confiscate all your guns (& maybe anyone eases at that address), based on just that one, anonymous un-specified complaint.
You do NOT get to "confront your accuser"
You do NOT get to "have due process."
You do NOT get to have a trial.
You do NOT get to have a Lawyer present.
You ARE "guilty until proven innocent" (how? What event, where is the anonymous complaint referring to)?

Welcome to "The Peoples Demokratik Republik of Marynlandistan"!
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Yes, you can petition later, but against who?
Yes you can contest the events after the fact (what are they?).

I see "Activists" waiting outside gun club gates getting plate numbers.
I see exes filing them in droves.
I see the Butcher, Baker, Candlestick Maker & even the guy you flipped the bird when he cut you off at the light last week filing them.
 
Full text of this abomination here:
http://mgaleg.maryland.gov/2018RS/bills/hb/hb1302t.pdf" rel="nofollow - http://mgaleg.maryland.gov/2018RS/bills/hb/hb1302t.pdf


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Replies:
Posted By: Honkytonk
Date Posted: April 24 2018 at 3:06pm
I would be pro active. Go to the police, say you felt an anti gun activist threatened you. You felt a potential threat to your life, liberty...


Posted By: Macd
Date Posted: April 24 2018 at 3:59pm
Read it through a couple of times.  There is a requirement for a judge to review a petition and the need for the petitioner to provide substantive information and act in good faith.  A hearing is required to review a temporary order.  I didn't see any anonymity for the petitioner.  Nothing prevents legal council at the hearing. It appears to simply be an attempt to provide a means to prevent someone who is at high risk of using a firearm to commit a serious offense.  So if your neighbor's kid is talking about shooting up the local school or a person with a history of violent mental illness starts buying guns the police can move to prevent a tragedy.  Chief Firearms officer's and the police have this power in Canada.  I doubt any legal and responsible gun owner has anything to worry about.  BTW, anyone who makes a petition in bad faith is not protected by the law from civil or legal penalty.


Posted By: A square 10
Date Posted: April 24 2018 at 4:37pm
i see a legal challenge very soon , 


Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: April 25 2018 at 5:47am
That's my hope, that the Governor did it to shut up the Left, knowing its going to get trashed as unconstitutional by the courts but he "did something".

The point is that they take it first,without any of the protections of law, then you get to go & try to get them back later.


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Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)


Posted By: A square 10
Date Posted: April 25 2018 at 6:41pm
these may well end up with a supreme ruling saying "leave the constitution alone" then im hoping we can send all the commies off to the commie countries they love so much , 


Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: April 25 2018 at 7:34pm
Rotten Commies!!

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