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1941 Long Branch No4 MK1

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Topic: 1941 Long Branch No4 MK1
Posted By: IDguy
Subject: 1941 Long Branch No4 MK1
Date Posted: June 09 2018 at 10:11pm
I just bought a 1941 Long Branch No. 4 MK1 (no star) from a guy for 400 bucks. 1L serial number block. I went to look at a 22 he had and he had a few other guns and this rifle was sitting against the wall. It has a 2 groove barrel and has a matching bolt and magazine. Bore is PERFECT. He threw in 2 1950 bandoliers with Radway Green ammo on stripper clips in the bandoliers and 2 boxes of commercial non corrosive ammo as well as a bayonet(not matching). Did I get a good deal and if so what is the package actually worth? Just asking out of interest and not looking to sell this. Any info is appreciated because I am not really an Enfield nut but have a nose for when I probably should buy something.
Thanks in advance guys.

Posted By: SW28fan
Date Posted: June 10 2018 at 3:59am
You Did Fantastic   No star Longbranchs are very rare  total production  of the no star was about 10,000
They typically sell for  twice what you paid for it.

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Posted By: Bear43
Date Posted: June 10 2018 at 5:24am
The big question is is it still in military configuration? If so, you got an outstanding deal. If not, it still is a good deal due to the rarity of those early no star Long Branch rifles. Please post some pictures. We would love to see it.

Posted By: MJ11
Date Posted: June 10 2018 at 9:52am
You are a nut now ! LOL

Hang that RG ammo on the wall and get some PPU 303 BOXER primed ball from SGAMMO. They also have some MEN 303 ball but it's BERDAN primed and $250 for 500 rounds. Good shooting stuff.

Long Branch made some of the best shooting #4's.


The Spartans do not ask how many the enemies are but where they are

Posted By: IDguy
Date Posted: June 10 2018 at 1:06pm

Posted By: IDguy
Date Posted: June 10 2018 at 1:09pm
Here are the rest of the pics. Some markings on the stock are strange to me. Also, the rifle is missing the front stacking swivel. Does anyone know where I can find one?

Posted By: A square 10
Date Posted: June 10 2018 at 8:59pm
OK - you did fine as referenced above , the arrow in the "U" indicates south african service i believe and that is not a detriment either , it looks clean and original , the radway green ammo is a big plus , the pointy bit [depending on which one you got] is as well , if its an SA blade version so marked it is a plus plus ,, if its a spike its still a plus - the SA service might have seen both , that vintage rifle would originaly been issued with a spike of the same era , there is no corrilation of mfgr of bayos to rifles in issueing , a longbranch spikewould be fun , yet as a collector id like an SA blade with my SA rifle - just me , 

Posted By: IDguy
Date Posted: June 10 2018 at 9:47pm
Thanks for the info. I really appreciate your expertise. I don't know if you could see it but right behind the socket there is a number 5 or a blocky letter S inside a square. Do you know what that means?

Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: June 11 2018 at 3:53am
which "socket" you referring to?

Loose wimmen tightened here

Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: June 11 2018 at 6:21am
Stacking swivels were not issued with No4 rifles they'd been discontinuity by the time the No4 was made in service.
The only comparable thing I know of was the Turkish issue stacking rod.

Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)

Posted By: A square 10
Date Posted: June 11 2018 at 5:48pm
the squared "S" in a box would mean it has a savage bit on it , most likely changed in service but could be after - would not have been original , not a bad thing either , 

Posted By: Canuck
Date Posted: June 11 2018 at 6:42pm
Shamu is very correct about the stacking swivel.

Castles made of sand slip into the sea.....eventually

Posted By: IDguy
Date Posted: June 11 2018 at 8:08pm
Ok. Thanks guys. I kinda thought it might be a Savage stock but wasn't sure. I really appreciate the help. I am definitely addicted now. Interesting note about the stacking swivel. Didn't know that. The socket I was referring to was the round receiver extension thing that the buttstock mates up to.

Posted By: MJ11
Date Posted: June 12 2018 at 7:45am
Remember to save the RG ammo and get some PPU or MEN from SG Ammo. Thumbs Up

They will ship to your door. Clap

What number bolt head is on your LB ? Beer

There is nothing wrong with having a few Savage bits on the LB. It's a lot more common than people admit.  Hug


The Spartans do not ask how many the enemies are but where they are

Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: June 12 2018 at 9:11am
Yes, Savage & Long Branch traded & swapped parts all the time.

Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)

Posted By: Zed
Date Posted: June 12 2018 at 11:50am
The bolt head appears to be a 3. Visible in one of the photos.
Probably worth checking the headspace just to make sure all is well.

It's nice to be important, but it's more important to be nice!

Posted By: A square 10
Date Posted: June 12 2018 at 10:01pm
the stacking swivel went out with the mkVI trials , as much as it might add to the appearance would not be correct , even tho early no4s would allow it to be fitted up , i think later they quit D&Ting for that later on but im not certain of that ,  

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